K4 Shipping Delay
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I am one of those far down the list in the first shipping group. When I read the notice from Eric and Wayne, about the new shipment dates for the K4, I was reminded of a comment from my builder a year and a half ago when our new house was about 4 months behind schedule.
He said, we could have finished your house on time but it would have been finished by subcontractors who don’t provide the quality we insist on. Besides, and this is the important part regarding the K4, he said, “ I know you are frustrated, but the day you move in and can begin to enjoy the quality of your home as long as you live here, the delay won’t mean anything.” He was absolutely right. When I walk around my new home and look at how well it’s made and the incredible quality of the finish work, the delay is meaningless. We all who are anxiously awaiting the K4, will feel the same way once it arrives at our homes. Besides, it will be a better more refined radio in May than it would have been if shipped now. 73, Terry, N7TB ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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"Good, Fast, Cheap"** ... choose two.
73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County **Said to a Marine BG. He chose Good & Cheap. We declined to bid On 1/15/2020 8:18 PM, Terry Brown wrote: > I am one of those far down the list in the first shipping group. When I read the notice from Eric and Wayne, about the new shipment dates for the K4, I was reminded of a comment from my builder a year and a half ago when our new house was about 4 months behind schedule. > > He said, we could have finished your house on time but it would have been finished by subcontractors who don’t provide the quality we insist on. Besides, and this is the important part regarding the K4, he said, “ I know you are frustrated, but the day you move in and can begin to enjoy the quality of your home as long as you live here, the delay won’t mean anything.” > > He was absolutely right. When I walk around my new home and look at how well it’s made and the incredible quality of the finish work, the delay is meaningless. We all who are anxiously awaiting the K4, will feel the same way once it arrives at our homes. Besides, it will be a better more refined radio in May than it would have been if shipped now. > > 73, > > Terry, N7TB > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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In the computer programming world, it's "bug free, cheap, or on time." :)
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 2:25 PM Fred Jensen <[hidden email]> wrote: > "Good, Fast, Cheap"** ... choose two. > > 73, > Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW > Sparks NV DM09dn > Washoe County > > **Said to a Marine BG. He chose Good & Cheap. We declined to bid > > On 1/15/2020 8:18 PM, Terry Brown wrote: > > I am one of those far down the list in the first shipping group. When I > read the notice from Eric and Wayne, about the new shipment dates for the > K4, I was reminded of a comment from my builder a year and a half ago when > our new house was about 4 months behind schedule. > > > > He said, we could have finished your house on time but it would have > been finished by subcontractors who don’t provide the quality we insist > on. Besides, and this is the important part regarding the K4, he said, “ I > know you are frustrated, but the day you move in and can begin to enjoy > the quality of your home as long as you live here, the delay won’t mean > anything.” > > > > He was absolutely right. When I walk around my new home and look at > how well it’s made and the incredible quality of the finish work, the delay > is meaningless. We all who are anxiously awaiting the K4, will feel the > same way once it arrives at our homes. Besides, it will be a better more > refined radio in May than it would have been if shipped now. > > > > 73, > > > > Terry, N7TB > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] -- 72, Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737 Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988 (40°45.68' N 75°17.33' W) Grid: *FN20is* ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Murphy's Law of Cybernetic Entomology says: "There's always one more bug."
So "bug-free" is impossible. Gwen, NG3P On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 2:50 PM rich hurd WC3T <[hidden email]> wrote: > In the computer programming world, it's "bug free, cheap, or on time." :) > > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 2:25 PM Fred Jensen <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > "Good, Fast, Cheap"** ... choose two. > > > > 73, > > Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW > > Sparks NV DM09dn > > Washoe County > > > > **Said to a Marine BG. He chose Good & Cheap. We declined to bid > > > > On 1/15/2020 8:18 PM, Terry Brown wrote: > > > I am one of those far down the list in the first shipping group. When > I > > read the notice from Eric and Wayne, about the new shipment dates for the > > K4, I was reminded of a comment from my builder a year and a half ago > when > > our new house was about 4 months behind schedule. > > > > > > He said, we could have finished your house on time but it would have > > been finished by subcontractors who don’t provide the quality we insist > > on. Besides, and this is the important part regarding the K4, he said, > “ I > > know you are frustrated, but the day you move in and can begin to enjoy > > the quality of your home as long as you live here, the delay won’t mean > > anything.” > > > > > > He was absolutely right. When I walk around my new home and look at > > how well it’s made and the incredible quality of the finish work, the > delay > > is meaningless. We all who are anxiously awaiting the K4, will feel the > > same way once it arrives at our homes. Besides, it will be a better > more > > refined radio in May than it would have been if shipped now. > > > > > > 73, > > > > > > Terry, N7TB > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > > -- > 72, > Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737 > Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting > Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988 (40°45.68' N 75°17.33' W) Grid: > *FN20is* > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] -- -+-+-+-+- Jenny Everywhere's Infinite: Quark Time http://quarktime.net ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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One of the software projects I worked on... The lead eng reported it
will be done in two weeks, for about six weeks. Then WE looked at what/how we were doing the job and took a different approach. it WAS done in two weeks, but needed six weeks of data (micro code) entry. An intern did the data entry. I don't see (from what I read) the delay being a software/firmware issue, but a hardware supply issue. AND, I would like to see the supplier getting the product right (no replacements needed). I did get "the" K4 email today. *73, steve WB3LGC* I see "this" as an opportunity for the "Easter Bunny" to bring a K4 upgrade from a K4 to a K4D... On 1/16/20 3:19 PM, Gwen Patton wrote: > Murphy's Law of Cybernetic Entomology says: "There's always one more bug." > So "bug-free" is impossible. > > Gwen, NG3P > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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"By definition, the number of bugs in a program is infinite."
Regards, kurtt, WB9FMC Kurt Pawlikowski The Pinrod Corporation [hidden email] (773) 284-9500 http://pinrod.com On 1/16/2020 2:19 PM, Gwen Patton wrote: > Murphy's Law of Cybernetic Entomology says: "There's always one more bug." > So "bug-free" is impossible. > > Gwen, NG3P > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 2:50 PM rich hurd WC3T <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> In the computer programming world, it's "bug free, cheap, or on time." :) >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 2:25 PM Fred Jensen <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> "Good, Fast, Cheap"** ... choose two. >>> >>> 73, >>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW >>> Sparks NV DM09dn >>> Washoe County >>> >>> **Said to a Marine BG. He chose Good & Cheap. We declined to bid >>> >>> On 1/15/2020 8:18 PM, Terry Brown wrote: >>>> I am one of those far down the list in the first shipping group. When >> I >>> read the notice from Eric and Wayne, about the new shipment dates for the >>> K4, I was reminded of a comment from my builder a year and a half ago >> when >>> our new house was about 4 months behind schedule. >>>> He said, we could have finished your house on time but it would have >>> been finished by subcontractors who don’t provide the quality we insist >>> on. Besides, and this is the important part regarding the K4, he said, >> “ I >>> know you are frustrated, but the day you move in and can begin to enjoy >>> the quality of your home as long as you live here, the delay won’t mean >>> anything.” >>>> He was absolutely right. When I walk around my new home and look at >>> how well it’s made and the incredible quality of the finish work, the >> delay >>> is meaningless. We all who are anxiously awaiting the K4, will feel the >>> same way once it arrives at our homes. Besides, it will be a better >> more >>> refined radio in May than it would have been if shipped now. >>>> 73, >>>> >>>> Terry, N7TB >>>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to [hidden email] >> >> >> -- >> 72, >> Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737 >> Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting >> Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988 (40°45.68' N 75°17.33' W) Grid: >> *FN20is* >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] > > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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In the computer industry, we have a saying, "On time, Full
featured, Debugged: Pick two." And the K4 is as much a computer as it is a radio. I'm glad that most commenters go for slipping the on time part of the triad. 73 Bill AE6JV (Who's waiting for the kit) On 1/16/20 at 2:25 PM, [hidden email] (Fred Jensen) wrote: >"Good, Fast, Cheap"** ... choose two. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | If you want total security, go to prison. There you're 408-348-7900 | fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only www.pwpconsult.com | thing lacking is freedom. - Dwight D. Eisenhower ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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