K4 remote software question
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After listening to Eric’s EXPO presentation, I thought I heard him say Elecraft would have an API for developers to develop remote software for the K4. I take that to mean that Elecraft will NOT have their own remote software offering so you must buy a K4/0 until software is available from 3rd parties. I had understood previously that Elecraft would actually have their own software available around the ship date of the K4 so I’ve been planning for that in my remote project. I guess I’ll have to switch gears and delay my remote project further. I was hoping to have it installed this year.
On the K4 delivery issue, since the Group 1 purchasers are a known lot, it seems that any group that is full and finite should be able to be given a number (maybe even the actual/projected S/N) so that, for example, as people on this reflector announce that they received S/N 25 and your number was 50, you’d have a clue that your rig was getting close. Ideally, with supply chains running smoothly, Elecraft could show their production projections by S/N or at least an estimated units per week forecast as they ramp up. I realize the exact S/N may change due to special circumstances, but at least we’d have a ballpark pecking order of when to sit at the mailbox looking down the street (longingly) for a delivery truck. I’m not aware of a downside to letting folks know their actual or approximate spot in line. We all know Gavin Newsome and Dr. Faucci have the largest influence on delivery dates but I’d sure like to have a wee bit more transparency from Elecraft about our investment. I know there will be folks telling me to sit tight (as I have for the last 15+ months), they’re coming, but since late August is still the announced best guess for first production shipments, Elecraft surely has internal forecasts by now that could be parceled out to folks on the waiting list. Heck, I’ll even volunteer to be the body that tabulates the list if Elecraft wants to put me to work. (I’m guessing there are 500-1000 units in Group 1?) Semi-patiently waiting, 😉 Bob K5WA ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Bob
I’ll chime in. If a company gives a forecasted ship date and misses the mark for any reason, including unforeseen circumstances that company would be “burned at the stake”. I have seen it before. So with COVID-19 the big wildcard, it is virtually impossible to predict any long term forecast. Some hams treat a projected date as written in stone. Dave wo2x Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. > On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:04 AM, K5WA <[hidden email]> wrote: > > After listening to Eric’s EXPO presentation, I thought I heard him say Elecraft would have an API for developers to develop remote software for the K4. I take that to mean that Elecraft will NOT have their own remote software offering so you must buy a K4/0 until software is available from 3rd parties. I had understood previously that Elecraft would actually have their own software available around the ship date of the K4 so I’ve been planning for that in my remote project. I guess I’ll have to switch gears and delay my remote project further. I was hoping to have it installed this year. > > > > On the K4 delivery issue, since the Group 1 purchasers are a known lot, it seems that any group that is full and finite should be able to be given a number (maybe even the actual/projected S/N) so that, for example, as people on this reflector announce that they received S/N 25 and your number was 50, you’d have a clue that your rig was getting close. Ideally, with supply chains running smoothly, Elecraft could show their production projections by S/N or at least an estimated units per week forecast as they ramp up. I realize the exact S/N may change due to special circumstances, but at least we’d have a ballpark pecking order of when to sit at the mailbox looking down the street (longingly) for a delivery truck. I’m not aware of a downside to letting folks know their actual or approximate spot in line. We all know Gavin Newsome and Dr. Faucci have the largest influence on delivery dates but I’d sure like to have a wee bit more transparency from Elecraft about our investment. > > > > I know there will be folks telling me to sit tight (as I have for the last 15+ months), they’re coming, but since late August is still the announced best guess for first production shipments, Elecraft surely has internal forecasts by now that could be parceled out to folks on the waiting list. Heck, I’ll even volunteer to be the body that tabulates the list if Elecraft wants to put me to work. (I’m guessing there are 500-1000 units in Group 1?) > > > > Semi-patiently waiting, 😉 > > > > Bob K5WA > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Bob,
Regarding the remote capability of the K4 I heard the same thing. I specifically asked in the chat room if Elecraft currently has PC based user interface software to be used with a remote installation. The response from Wayne seems to indicate they do not. I also ordered the radio a year ago based on correspondence with Elecraft indicating they will have PC control software available at the time of delivery. The Elecraft response seems to be that there “should be” a Win4K4 type software package available, and that RemoteHam software ‘"should be able to control the radio”. My expectation was that there would be PC based user interface software available that would substantially emulate the K4 front panel display with full waterfall and control functionality. I would expect some detail about the software, perhaps at least some screenshots and some communication from Elecraft that the software has been tested in the field. The silence from Elecraft on this topic seems to indicate such software is NOT available. Please understand I remain excited about adding the K4 to my remote to hopefully replace the K3s and maybe the Flex 6600, but since I will NEVER even see or touch the K4 when using it (it will be 100km away). I need to fully understand what the control software will look like since without it the radio is useless to me. To be clear, before I can accept delivery of the radio, I will need more than “sure, there will be software available to control the radio”. Without specific and DETAIL information from Elecraft about this, I will need to cancel my order and request a refund and wait until the remote capabilities are developed in the future. 73, de steve VE6WZ. > After listening to Eric’s EXPO presentation, I thought I heard him say Elecraft would have an API for developers to develop remote software for the K4. I take that to mean that Elecraft will NOT have their own remote software offering so you must buy a K4/0 until software is available from 3rd parties. I had understood previously that Elecraft would actually have their own software available around the ship date of the K4 so I’ve been planning for that in my remote project. I guess I’ll have to switch gears and delay my remote project further. I was hoping to have it installed this year. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: K4 remote software question
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Steve:
> On Aug 10, 2020, at 10:52 AM, VE6WZ_Steve <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Bob, > > Regarding the remote capability of the K4 I heard the same thing. I specifically asked in the chat room if Elecraft currently has PC based user interface software to be used with a remote installation. The response from Wayne seems to indicate they do not. I also ordered the radio a year ago based on correspondence with Elecraft indicating they will have PC control software available at the time of delivery. > The Elecraft response seems to be that there “should be” a Win4K4 type software package available, and that RemoteHam software ‘"should be able to control the radio”. > My expectation was that there would be PC based user interface software available that would substantially emulate the K4 front panel display with full waterfall and control functionality. I would expect some detail about the software, perhaps at least some screenshots and some communication from Elecraft that the software has been tested in the field. The silence from Elecraft on this topic seems to indicate such software is NOT available. > > Please understand I remain excited about adding the K4 to my remote to hopefully replace the K3s and maybe the Flex 6600, but since I will NEVER even see or touch the K4 when using it (it will be 100km away). I need to fully understand what the control software will look like since without it the radio is useless to me. > > To be clear, before I can accept delivery of the radio, I will need more than “sure, there will be software available to control the radio”. > Without specific and DETAIL information from Elecraft about this, I will need to cancel my order and request a refund and wait until the remote capabilities are developed in the future. I’m certainly sympathetic with your position given the critical importance of remote operation to you. Back in August 2012 I signed on for the Flex-6700 based on the ethernet connection providing remote operation as was touted when the product was announced at the 2012 Hamvention and the closeout of the special introductory pricing was in August 2012. SmartSDR was to provide not only remote operation, but full functionality of the panadapter/waterfall display which is a feature that no other manufacturer was promising for remote operation. The Flex-6700 was delivered to me in November 2013 at installed at my ham station in SE Georgia. The initial software package was woefully inadequate and though the following SmartSDR software updates through version 1.xx provided enhanced capabilities, it wasn’t until version 2 was announced in May 2017 with the introduction of ’SmartLINK’ that remote capability was added. Thus, it took five years from product feature announcement to product feature availability. Almost all of my operating is done remotely, so I ended up with a very expensive paperweight. At least I didn’t have to pay for the version 2 software upgrade given that I was an ‘early adopter’ where Flex recognized that those that made early commitments to the 6700 in 2012 were promised that feature. That said, I did end up ordering a K3-KPA500-KAT500-K3/I0 and Remote Rig 1258 package in August 2014 at the Huntsville Hamfest given the fact that at least Elecraft had a proven product line that could be operated remotely and I wasn’t getting any younger. This system has worked amazingly well for remote operation from my station location with limited DSL at the time (768K upload), particularly with the addition of the Remote Rig RC-1216H web-based controller for use with the KPA-500 and a second RC-1216H for the Green Heron rotor controller that allows me to observe/control these devices with any web browser. I later added the P3 for those times when I am in the shack. So for three years the Elecraft line was my sole means of operating remotely. I currently have 2MB upload/20 MB download which is good enough for remote use of SmarkSDR. Currently, I can work both systems independently through a 4O3A Antenna Genius where both systems have access to my antennas. The Flex system works well but I am limited by my DSL service as to how many panadapters/waterfall displays I can use. It is the panadapter capability that I miss in the K3 while running remotely. That said, the Elecraft is still my primary rig for use with my End Feed Half Wave antenna because the KAT500 can handle the KPA500. Flex/4O3A is yet to release the ’Tuner Genius’ for use with the PGXL (announced in February 2017 and received in May 2018) that is part of the package that was promised to purchasers when I submitted my PGXL order in February 2017. It is an excellent amplifier, but the lack of the tuner significantly limits the amplifier’s utility for use only with my M-Squared yagi. Latest word (noted at the QSO Today Virtual Expo) is that the Tuner Genius is in Alpha Testing with the hope that it will be available by the end of the year. We’ll see. I don’t doubt for a second the desire of Elecraft to deliver on their vision of remote operation for the K4 as well as other capabilities. Like everyone else, they’re struggling with external circumstances beyond their control and it will be quite awhile before they are fully back to ’normal’ (whatever that means). A new product release is incredibly complex and remote operation is likely a lower priority given the ‘all hands on deck’ on getting K4 out to customers. The question for those with deposits is whether they feel comfortable accepting a product that clearly has a path for future enhancement before those enhancements are available and the current product offering will at least meet a significant portion of their expectations. If I had been told by Flex that it would be five years before remote capability was actually introduced, I probably would not have made that deposit back in 2012… ;-) On the other hand, Elecraft’s proven record to date of producing product after initial product enhancement is certainly stronger that what I’ve experienced with Flex. FWIW, Barry Baines, WD4ASW (Currently in Roslindale, MA) > > 73, de steve VE6WZ. > > >> After listening to Eric’s EXPO presentation, I thought I heard him say Elecraft would have an API for developers to develop remote software for the K4. I take that to mean that Elecraft will NOT have their own remote software offering so you must buy a K4/0 until software is available from 3rd parties. I had understood previously that Elecraft would actually have their own software available around the ship date of the K4 so I’ve been planning for that in my remote project. I guess I’ll have to switch gears and delay my remote project further. I was hoping to have it installed this year. > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Indeed! I'm old, been through this many times. Regardless of what is
causing problems: Don't publicize a release date because of uncertainties and the World will give you a thousand reasons why you are wrong and should have given a date. Publicize a release date and then miss it because of uncertainties and the the same World will criticize you a thousand times for missing the date. Adjust the design(s) to accommodate the uncertainties and make your release date, and the same World will criticize you a thousand times for all the missing design elements while waiting for the upgrades. Pre-assign serial numbers to pre-orders and publish them and the World will criticize you a thousand times when the production pace does not keep up with expectations. When pre-orders cancel, the rest of the list will criticize you for not adjusting the serial number sequence so "they can get a lower number." If you adjust the sequence, the rest of the list will criticize you because they now can't track production rates. Publish weekly reports detailing problems, progress or the lack thereof, and estimated release date and the World will have a thousand complaints about your lack of progress, missing the release date, and spelling, grammar, frequency, and content of your reports. Please post if you ever find a "win" in any of these scenarios, I never have. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 8/10/2020 6:54 AM, Dave wrote: > Bob > > I’ll chime in. > > If a company gives a forecasted ship date and misses the mark for any reason, including unforeseen circumstances that company would be “burned at the stake”. I have seen it before. So with COVID-19 the big wildcard, it is virtually impossible to predict any long term forecast. > > Some hams treat a projected date as written in stone. > > Dave wo2x > > Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. > >> On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:04 AM, K5WA <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> After listening to Eric’s EXPO presentation, I thought I heard him say Elecraft would have an API for developers to develop remote software for the K4. I take that to mean that Elecraft will NOT have their own remote software offering so you must buy a K4/0 until software is available from 3rd parties. I had understood previously that Elecraft would actually have their own software available around the ship date of the K4 so I’ve been planning for that in my remote project. I guess I’ll have to switch gears and delay my remote project further. I was hoping to have it installed this year. >> >> >> >> On the K4 delivery issue, since the Group 1 purchasers are a known lot, it seems that any group that is full and finite should be able to be given a number (maybe even the actual/projected S/N) so that, for example, as people on this reflector announce that they received S/N 25 and your number was 50, you’d have a clue that your rig was getting close. Ideally, with supply chains running smoothly, Elecraft could show their production projections by S/N or at least an estimated units per week forecast as they ramp up. I realize the exact S/N may change due to special circumstances, but at least we’d have a ballpark pecking order of when to sit at the mailbox looking down the street (longingly) for a delivery truck. I’m not aware of a downside to letting folks know their actual or approximate spot in line. We all know Gavin Newsome and Dr. Faucci have the largest influence on delivery dates but I’d sure like to have a wee bit more transparency from Elecraft about our investment. >> >> >> >> I know there will be folks telling me to sit tight (as I have for the last 15+ months), they’re coming, but since late August is still the announced best guess for first production shipments, Elecraft surely has internal forecasts by now that could be parceled out to folks on the waiting list. Heck, I’ll even volunteer to be the body that tabulates the list if Elecraft wants to put me to work. (I’m guessing there are 500-1000 units in Group 1?) >> >> >> >> Semi-patiently waiting, 😉 >> >> >> >> Bob K5WA >> ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: K4 remote software question
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One word: Borland. Local (to Elecraft) techies know their story.
73 Eric WD6DBM On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 6:57 AM Dave <[hidden email]> wrote: > Bob > > I’ll chime in. > > If a company gives a forecasted ship date and misses the mark for any > reason, including unforeseen circumstances that company would be “burned at > the stake”. I have seen it before. So with COVID-19 the big wildcard, it > is virtually impossible to predict any long term forecast. > > Some hams treat a projected date as written in stone. > > Dave wo2x > > Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. > > > On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:04 AM, K5WA <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > After listening to Eric’s EXPO presentation, I thought I heard him say > Elecraft would have an API for developers to develop remote software for > the K4. I take that to mean that Elecraft will NOT have their own remote > software offering so you must buy a K4/0 until software is available from > 3rd parties. I had understood previously that Elecraft would actually > have their own software available around the ship date of the K4 so I’ve > been planning for that in my remote project. I guess I’ll have to switch > gears and delay my remote project further. I was hoping to have it > installed this year. > > > > > > > > On the K4 delivery issue, since the Group 1 purchasers are a known lot, > it seems that any group that is full and finite should be able to be given > a number (maybe even the actual/projected S/N) so that, for example, as > people on this reflector announce that they received S/N 25 and your number > was 50, you’d have a clue that your rig was getting close. Ideally, with > supply chains running smoothly, Elecraft could show their production > projections by S/N or at least an estimated units per week forecast as they > ramp up. I realize the exact S/N may change due to special circumstances, > but at least we’d have a ballpark pecking order of when to sit at the > mailbox looking down the street (longingly) for a delivery truck. I’m not > aware of a downside to letting folks know their actual or approximate spot > in line. We all know Gavin Newsome and Dr. Faucci have the largest > influence on delivery dates but I’d sure like to have a wee bit more > transparency from Elecraft about our investment. > > > > > > > > I know there will be folks telling me to sit tight (as I have for the > last 15+ months), they’re coming, but since late August is still the > announced best guess for first production shipments, Elecraft surely has > internal forecasts by now that could be parceled out to folks on the > waiting list. Heck, I’ll even volunteer to be the body that tabulates the > list if Elecraft wants to put me to work. (I’m guessing there are 500-1000 > units in Group 1?) > > > > > > > > Semi-patiently waiting, 😉 > > > > > > > > Bob K5WA > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> > On Behalf Of Eric Norris > Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 11:28 > To: Dave <[hidden email]> > Cc: K5WA <[hidden email]>; elecraft@mailman qth. net > <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 remote software question > > One word: Borland. Local (to Elecraft) techies know their story. > > 73 Eric WD6DBM > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 6:57 AM Dave <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > Bob > > > > I’ll chime in. > > > > If a company gives a forecasted ship date and misses the mark for any > > reason, including unforeseen circumstances that company would be > > “burned at the stake”. I have seen it before. So with COVID-19 the > > big wildcard, it is virtually impossible to predict any long term forecast. > > > > Some hams treat a projected date as written in stone. > > > > Dave wo2x > > > > Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. > > > > > On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:04 AM, K5WA <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > > > After listening to Eric’s EXPO presentation, I thought I heard him > > > say > > Elecraft would have an API for developers to develop remote software > > for the K4. I take that to mean that Elecraft will NOT have their own > > remote software offering so you must buy a K4/0 until software is available > from > > 3rd parties. I had understood previously that Elecraft would actually > > have their own software available around the ship date of the K4 so > > I’ve been planning for that in my remote project. I guess I’ll have > > to switch gears and delay my remote project further. I was hoping to > > have it installed this year. > > > > > > > > > > > > On the K4 delivery issue, since the Group 1 purchasers are a known > > > lot, > > it seems that any group that is full and finite should be able to be > > given a number (maybe even the actual/projected S/N) so that, for > > example, as people on this reflector announce that they received S/N > > 25 and your number was 50, you’d have a clue that your rig was getting > > close. Ideally, with supply chains running smoothly, Elecraft could > > show their production projections by S/N or at least an estimated > > units per week forecast as they ramp up. I realize the exact S/N may > > change due to special circumstances, but at least we’d have a ballpark > > pecking order of when to sit at the mailbox looking down the street > > (longingly) for a delivery truck. I’m not aware of a downside to > > letting folks know their actual or approximate spot in line. We all > > know Gavin Newsome and Dr. Faucci have the largest influence on > > delivery dates but I’d sure like to have a wee bit more transparency from > Elecraft about our investment. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know there will be folks telling me to sit tight (as I have for > > > the > > last 15+ months), they’re coming, but since late August is still the > > announced best guess for first production shipments, Elecraft surely > > has internal forecasts by now that could be parceled out to folks on > > the waiting list. Heck, I’ll even volunteer to be the body that > > tabulates the list if Elecraft wants to put me to work. (I’m guessing > > there are 500-1000 units in Group 1?) > > > > > > > > > > > > Semi-patiently waiting, 😉 > > > > > > > > > > > > Bob K5WA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > Elecraft mailing list > > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this > > > email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > > > [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > > [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: K4 remote software question
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The word that comes to mind for me is Osborne.
But Elecraft didn’t have sales of the K3S halt as soon as they announced the K4. Indeed, the K4 has taken much longer than anticipated to ship, and supply issues have brought an end to much of the K3(S) product line. I’m sure there is much more K3(S) kit they could sell if only they were available. > On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Eric Norris <[hidden email]> wrote: > > One word: Borland. Local (to Elecraft) techies know their story. > > 73 Eric WD6DBM > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 6:57 AM Dave <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Bob >> >> I’ll chime in. >> >> If a company gives a forecasted ship date and misses the mark for any >> reason, including unforeseen circumstances that company would be “burned at >> the stake”. I have seen it before. So with COVID-19 the big wildcard, it >> is virtually impossible to predict any long term forecast. >> >> Some hams treat a projected date as written in stone. >> >> Dave wo2x >> >> Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. >> >>> On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:04 AM, K5WA <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> After listening to Eric’s EXPO presentation, I thought I heard him say >> Elecraft would have an API for developers to develop remote software for >> the K4. I take that to mean that Elecraft will NOT have their own remote >> software offering so you must buy a K4/0 until software is available from >> 3rd parties. I had understood previously that Elecraft would actually >> have their own software available around the ship date of the K4 so I’ve >> been planning for that in my remote project. I guess I’ll have to switch >> gears and delay my remote project further. I was hoping to have it >> installed this year. >>> >>> >>> >>> On the K4 delivery issue, since the Group 1 purchasers are a known lot, >> it seems that any group that is full and finite should be able to be given >> a number (maybe even the actual/projected S/N) so that, for example, as >> people on this reflector announce that they received S/N 25 and your number >> was 50, you’d have a clue that your rig was getting close. Ideally, with >> supply chains running smoothly, Elecraft could show their production >> projections by S/N or at least an estimated units per week forecast as they >> ramp up. I realize the exact S/N may change due to special circumstances, >> but at least we’d have a ballpark pecking order of when to sit at the >> mailbox looking down the street (longingly) for a delivery truck. I’m not >> aware of a downside to letting folks know their actual or approximate spot >> in line. We all know Gavin Newsome and Dr. Faucci have the largest >> influence on delivery dates but I’d sure like to have a wee bit more >> transparency from Elecraft about our investment. >>> >>> >>> >>> I know there will be folks telling me to sit tight (as I have for the >> last 15+ months), they’re coming, but since late August is still the >> announced best guess for first production shipments, Elecraft surely has >> internal forecasts by now that could be parceled out to folks on the >> waiting list. Heck, I’ll even volunteer to be the body that tabulates the >> list if Elecraft wants to put me to work. (I’m guessing there are 500-1000 >> units in Group 1?) >>> >>> >>> >>> Semi-patiently waiting, 😉 >>> >>> >>> >>> Bob K5WA >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to [hidden email] >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: [hidden email] Web: http://boringhamradiopart.blogspot.com Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!" -- Wilbur Wright, 1901 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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