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Rich NE1EE

Re: Other groups [was: K4 shipping info]

On 2020-08-28 13:35:+0000, Alan - G4GNX wrote:
>Hehehehe.
>
>Fooled you Rich.

;-) yup...you did...I was so used to just looking at "K4 shipping info" that I missed the change! A little bit of humor to lighten my morning!

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Stephen Shearer

Re: K4 shipping info

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OK, what is the group name? Elecraft-K4 ??
https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K4 already exists, since (at least)
November....

73, steve

On 8/28/20 6:33 AM, Alan - G4GNX wrote:
>
> Someone on another group suggested that there should be a group setup
> specifically for the K4.
>
> I responded by doing just that. It is a group for enthusiasts by
> enthusiasts. No more, no less. I'm not looking for praise. It is what it
> is. ;-)
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Alan - G4GNX

Re: K4 shipping info

What's the problem Steve? November is when I created the group. It's at:
https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K4

Ring any bells? ;-)

73,

Alan. G4GNX

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Sent: 28/08/2020 16:26:37
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

>OK, what is the group name? Elecraft-K4 ??
>https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K4 already exists, since (at least) November....
>
>73, steve
>
>On 8/28/20 6:33 AM, Alan - G4GNX wrote:
>>
>>Someone on another group suggested that there should be a group setup specifically for the K4.
>>
>>I responded by doing just that. It is a group for enthusiasts by enthusiasts. No more, no less. I'm not looking for praise. It is what it is. ;-)
>>

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Paul Van Dyke

Re: K4 shipping info

Yes Alan

I am a member also, but I forgot also. I can't get wrapped up in a product
and go nuts, till it is on the bench.
And I was one of the early ones also, and all I am betting that was sold of
the K4 those 3 days was the "Full Meal Deal"

Paul KB9AVO

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 12:06 PM Alan - G4GNX <[hidden email]> wrote:

> What's the problem Steve? November is when I created the group. It's at:
> https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K4
>
> Ring any bells? ;-)
>
> 73,
>
> Alan. G4GNX
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "stephen shearer" <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: 28/08/2020 16:26:37
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info
>
> >OK, what is the group name? Elecraft-K4 ??
> >https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K4 already exists, since (at least)
> November....
> >
> >73, steve
> >
> >On 8/28/20 6:33 AM, Alan - G4GNX wrote:
> >>
> >>Someone on another group suggested that there should be a group setup
> specifically for the K4.
> >>
> >>I responded by doing just that. It is a group for enthusiasts by
> enthusiasts. No more, no less. I'm not looking for praise. It is what it
> is. ;-)
> >>
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Edward R Cole

Re: K4 shipping info

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I'm not waiting as I did not order one, but...

Won't it be simpler for Elecraft to post this on a link from their
website. Those who want to know could access and management would be
an addition for the Elecraft webmaster to handle.

I have an extensive personal website and also manage a VHF club
website (in raw html code; no authoring sw). No biggey!

73, Ed - KL7UW
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Nr4c

Re: K4 shipping info

No. They have no interest in doing this.

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> On Aug 28, 2020, at 4:22 PM, Edward R Cole <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I'm not waiting as I did not order one, but...
>
> Won't it be simpler for Elecraft to post this on a link from their website. Those who want to know could access and management would be an addition for the Elecraft webmaster to handle.
>
> I have an extensive personal website and also manage a VHF club website (in raw html code; no authoring sw). No biggey!
>
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
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Tom Azlin W7SUA-2

Re: K4 shipping info

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I like having all the Elecraft discussion on this reflector. I do not
consider any of it as tying up this one.

Tom w7sua ( group 2 order for a K4, have the K-Line)

On 8/26/2020 7:34 PM, Nr4c wrote:
> More likely this information will come from us as we announce the various stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the reflectors, probably the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a lot of traffic not of interest to the mass membership.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
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John Bohnovic-2

Re: K4 shipping info

I can filter all of the Elecraft groups so that all of the messages from
the different groups appear in one folder. I don't do that because I
want them in separate folders.

I support having a separate K4 group.

73..de John/K4WJ

On 8/29/2020 11:57 AM, Tom Azlin W7SUA wrote:

> I like having all the Elecraft discussion on this reflector. I do not
> consider any of it as tying up this one.
>
> Tom w7sua ( group 2 order for a K4, have the K-Line)
>
> On 8/26/2020 7:34 PM, Nr4c wrote:
>> More likely this information will come from us as we announce the
>> various stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the
>> reflectors, probably the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a
>> lot of traffic not of interest to the mass membership.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
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pa0pje

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>> I support having a separate K4 group.

I don't. I filter each Elecraft gear item in separate subfolders under a
main folder called Elecraft.

The real problem with this is the shear lack of users of this list to
mention the type of Elecraft gear they want to talk about.

Many users of the K3 for example, probably the most used gear, think:
"If I ask something about a setting of something everyone should know
I'm talking about my K3", so they end up in the main folder and I have a
hard time to get rid of these messages...

Messages from users of the digest that do not change the subject line:
Those messages are filtered straight to the trash... When I close
Tunderbird the trash is emptied automaically.

If only we could stick to the RULE that one starts an item with the type
of gear I would be very happy because the filter can take good care of this.

Please use the reflector and do not divert to yahoo/google/groups.io
etc. Share information at one place, do not split it up.

73,
Peter - PA0PJE

Op 30-08-2020 om 14:53 schreef John Bohnovic:

> I can filter all of the Elecraft groups so that all of the messages from
> the different groups appear in one folder. I don't do that because I
> want them in separate folders.
>
> I support having a separate K4 group.
>
> 73..de John/K4WJ
>
> On 8/29/2020 11:57 AM, Tom Azlin W7SUA wrote:
>> I like having all the Elecraft discussion on this reflector. I do not
>> consider any of it as tying up this one.
>>
>> Tom w7sua ( group 2 order for a K4, have the K-Line)
>>
>> On 8/26/2020 7:34 PM, Nr4c wrote:
>>> More likely this information will come from us as we announce the
>>> various stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the
>>> reflectors, probably the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a
>>> lot of traffic not of interest to the mass membership.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> ...nr4c. bill
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Nr4c

Re: K4 info

The majority of readers of this list are not waiting for a K4 and therefore have little interest in a lot of traffic related to K4 shipping/deliveries.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill

> On Aug 30, 2020, at 10:23 AM, Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE) <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>> I support having a separate K4 group.
>
> I don't. I filter each Elecraft gear item in separate subfolders under a main folder called Elecraft.
>
> The real problem with this is the shear lack of users of this list to mention the type of Elecraft gear they want to talk about.
>
> Many users of the K3 for example, probably the most used gear, think: "If I ask something about a setting of something everyone should know I'm talking about my K3", so they end up in the main folder and I have a hard time to get rid of these messages...
>
> Messages from users of the digest that do not change the subject line:
> Those messages are filtered straight to the trash... When I close Tunderbird the trash is emptied automaically.
>
> If only we could stick to the RULE that one starts an item with the type of gear I would be very happy because the filter can take good care of this.
>
> Please use the reflector and do not divert to yahoo/google/groups.io etc. Share information at one place, do not split it up.
>
> 73,
> Peter - PA0PJE
>
>
>
>
> Op 30-08-2020 om 14:53 schreef John Bohnovic:
>> I can filter all of the Elecraft groups so that all of the messages from
>> the different groups appear in one folder. I don't do that because I
>> want them in separate folders.
>> I support having a separate K4 group.
>> 73..de John/K4WJ
>>> On 8/29/2020 11:57 AM, Tom Azlin W7SUA wrote:
>>> I like having all the Elecraft discussion on this reflector. I do not
>>> consider any of it as tying up this one.
>>>
>>> Tom w7sua ( group 2 order for a K4, have the K-Line)
>>>
>>> On 8/26/2020 7:34 PM, Nr4c wrote:
>>>> More likely this information will come from us as we announce the
>>>> various stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the
>>>> reflectors, probably the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a
>>>> lot of traffic not of interest to the mass membership.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> ...nr4c. bill
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Grant Youngman-2

Re: K4 info

I think a comment I made started this discussion.

I don’t have any problem with anyone setting up a group for anything they want. If K4 users want a distinct group, that’s fine. I’m a subscriber, too.

What happens more often than not, though, is that everything gets cross-posted anyway. And the replies get cross-posted, and so on. So thinking that you won’t see posts that don’t interest you on the main reflector because there happens to be a single-product group is a bit parochial. And not everyone with an interest, or who might know something, is going to be a subscriber to the K4 group, or vice-versa. I do agree that I expect my delete key to be very active while everyone is bragging about THEIR K4 being shipped, and the unboxing videos, and the “first reaction” posts, and the issues people find, especially those related to the inevitable failures to RTFM, and all of that. Anyone who’s been hanging around any new product-related reflector knows what to expect, such as long OT threads about 160M antennas, etc :-)

All of it is interesting. The delete key (or its filter equivalent) can take care of what isn’t. I’ve personally learned a lot from what seems to be OT posts, or posts about radios I don’t own, both here and on other lists/groups.

Grant NQ5T

> On Aug 30, 2020, at 10:39 AM, Nr4c <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> The majority of readers of this list are not waiting for a K4 and therefore have little interest in a lot of traffic related to K4 shipping/deliveries.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
>> On Aug 30, 2020, at 10:23 AM, Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE) <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> I support having a separate K4 group.
>>
>> I don't. I filter each Elecraft gear item in separate subfolders under a main folder called Elecraft.
>>
>> The real problem with this is the shear lack of users of this list to mention the type of Elecraft gear they want to talk about.
>>

KENT TRIMBLE

Re: K4 info

In reply to this post by Nr4c

The majority of readers of this list own multiple Elecraft products and
therefore do have interests in many kinds of posts. Having them
addressed on the official Elecraft site is both important and convenient
for me.

A K4 is not in my plans today but I've been known to change my plans.
Like Bill, I get tired of deleting petty "when-is-it-going-to-ship"
posts, but that will eventually die down just as it did for the the K3
after it was unveiled at Visalia in April of 2007 but didn't ship until
October. It had been rumored far earlier.

There is nothing wrong with my K2, K3, KPA500, KX3, KX2, W2, T1, XG3,
BL2, or AX1/E. But every once in a while a post on one of them will
capture my interest. I delete the rest.

As long as posters abide by the long-standing protocol of putting the
model in the subject line (preferably at the beginning), it is easy to
delete both single and multiple product posts with a mere mouse click.

I look forward to reading future posts by K4 owners after they actually
own one.

73,

Kent K9ZTV

On 8/30/2020 9:39 AM, Nr4c wrote:
> The majority of readers of this list are not waiting for a K4 and therefore have little interest in a lot of traffic related to K4 shipping/deliveries.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
>

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wayne burdick

Re: K4 info

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We've been down this road before, multiple times. In the end we've always chosen not to split the forum, which I believe was the right decision.

For those looking for a more narrow topic space, there are presently 13 Elecraft-related groups.io forums:

https://groups.io/search?q=elecraft

One of these is [hidden email], which has over 500 members.

73,
Wayne
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Nr4c

Re: K4 info

In reply to this post by Grant Youngman-2

Grant. No one is creating a group. It has existed since last October or November.

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> On Aug 30, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Grant Youngman <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I think a comment I made started this discussion.
>
> I don’t have any problem with anyone setting up a group for anything they want. If K4 users want a distinct group, that’s fine. I’m a subscriber, too.
>
> What happens more often than not, though, is that everything gets cross-posted anyway. And the replies get cross-posted, and so on. So thinking that you won’t see posts that don’t interest you on the main reflector because there happens to be a single-product group is a bit parochial. And not everyone with an interest, or who might know something, is going to be a subscriber to the K4 group, or vice-versa. I do agree that I expect my delete key to be very active while everyone is bragging about THEIR K4 being shipped, and the unboxing videos, and the “first reaction” posts, and the issues people find, especially those related to the inevitable failures to RTFM, and all of that. Anyone who’s been hanging around any new product-related reflector knows what to expect, such as long OT threads about 160M antennas, etc :-)
>
> All of it is interesting. The delete key (or its filter equivalent) can take care of what isn’t. I’ve personally learned a lot from what seems to be OT posts, or posts about radios I don’t own, both here and on other lists/groups.
>
> Grant NQ5T
>
>
>
>> On Aug 30, 2020, at 10:39 AM, Nr4c <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> The majority of readers of this list are not waiting for a K4 and therefore have little interest in a lot of traffic related to K4 shipping/deliveries.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
>>
>>
>>>> On Aug 30, 2020, at 10:23 AM, Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE) <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I support having a separate K4 group.
>>>
>>> I don't. I filter each Elecraft gear item in separate subfolders under a main folder called Elecraft.
>>>
>>> The real problem with this is the shear lack of users of this list to mention the type of Elecraft gear they want to talk about.
>>>
>
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Edward H Russell

Re: K4 info

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I'm relatively new here and really appreciate the flow of information on a
single reflector. It is easy to be selective according to the subject line,
and I often encounter interesting information about gear I'm not familiar
with.

ED / W2RF

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 info

We've been down this road before, multiple times. In the end we've always
chosen not to split the forum, which I believe was the right decision.

For those looking for a more narrow topic space, there are presently 13
Elecraft-related groups.io forums:

https://groups.io/search?q=elecraft

One of these is [hidden email], which has over 500 members.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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