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Rick Bates, NK7I

Re: K4???

They have given exactly that response you seek without being repetitive,
via this reflector and their emailed newsletters (have you subscribed to
that?). My K4 order will be delayed until other needs have been met,
but I've been watching closely since it was announced. One must simply
pay attention.

They can't assemble from parts they can't get; they can't sell without
assembly. What more do you expect of them?

Rick NK7I

On 5/15/2020 1:40 PM, Tom Doligalski via Elecraft wrote:
> All I have asked is honest information. Sad that Elecraft fails to respond to customers, especially those who have placed advance deposits.
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They are definitely working. I just ordered some K2 parts and they responded promptly.

Doug, W0UHU

> On 15May, 2020, at 1:11 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
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> Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 11:52:10 -0400
> From: Tom Doligalski <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>
> Cc: Elecraft Support <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>
> Subject: [Elecraft] K4???
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> It has been exactly 52 weeks since I placed an order for the K4, with a full deposit.
>
> I truly understand all of the current difficulties, but would appreciate a status report.
>
> Tom W4KX
>
>

Grant Youngman-2

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I don't view that as the result of "unbridled bureaucratic detail," but rather the people we elected to run our state and local government doing their jobs!

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Grant Youngman-2

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Oops … it would help if I didn’t hit enter BEFORE typing a reply.

You can relax. For the record I was not dissing CA State Gov. And I agree that you appear to have far people people running things there than we have here in GA. My comment was only about the detail in the order — making it a fun and lengthy read :-)

Grant

> On May 15, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Grant Youngman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> I don't view that as the result of "unbridled bureaucratic detail," but rather the people we elected to run our state and local government doing their jobs!
>
>
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC

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alorona

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Jim is right. Those of you outside of California would probably have a difficult time imagining how differently we are experiencing the lockdown-- which is an aptly descriptive noun-- here in California. The latest long-term outlook we received from Sacramento earlier this week made most of us gasp. We're running two or three months behind the majority of the country. It doesn't help that confusing, conflicting, or downright false information abounds. Patience.
Al W6LX

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Don Wilhelm

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We here in North Carolina will be beginning to open after next Friday,
but very carefully. We do not want to see a resurgence of this virus.
I need a haircut, and an appointment with my chiropractor, but those
will have to wait because those are close physical contact situations.
Since many of us are in the high risk category due to age, we must
remain careful and vigilant even as things reopen. Facemasks and gloves
are the order of the day for all outings as well as handwashing when we
return home and hand sanitizer when not at home.

It would be nice if all of this just went away, but that is wishful
thinking during a major worldwide pandemic.

The K4 will be ready when Elecraft can get the parts and start shipping.
In the meantime, firmware updates and some Field Testing is all they
can do.

73 and stay safe,
Don W3FPR

On 5/15/2020 6:29 PM, Al Lorona wrote:
> Jim is right. Those of you outside of California would probably have a difficult time imagining how differently we are experiencing the lockdown-- which is an aptly descriptive noun-- here in California. The latest long-term outlook we received from Sacramento earlier this week made most of us gasp. We're running two or three months behind the majority of the country. It doesn't help that confusing, conflicting, or downright false information abounds. Patience.
> Al W6LX
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One thing Al doesn’t mention is that Sacramento is only calling part of the shots. Here in the Bay area we are under control of the local authorities, who have things locked down much tighter than the rest of the state. The state folks are talking about starting to ease things over the next week. Here it will be at least a month. Take a look at the info at the Santa Clara County website for more info. Then realize that Silicon Valley is mostly inside Santa Clara County, and you will then start to see why getting things built and shipped from here is so difficult.

We will get out of this, we just need patience. At least we are finally starting to be able to get toilet paper and rice. Flour is very difficult, though. It seems that everyone is baking… Masks? Forget it. We have to make our own.

73!
Jack, W6FB

> On May 15, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Al Lorona <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Jim is right. Those of you outside of California would probably have a difficult time imagining how differently we are experiencing the lockdown-- which is an aptly descriptive noun-- here in California. The latest long-term outlook we received from Sacramento earlier this week made most of us gasp. We're running two or three months behind the majority of the country. It doesn't help that confusing, conflicting, or downright false information abounds. Patience.
> Al W6LX
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Wes Stewart-2

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I got a much needed haircut today. Usually I take the dog to grooming and I get
a haircut on the same day. He got groomed two weeks ago.

For the last couple of days I've been battling the annual infestation of killer
bees in my fireplace. Two days ago I set a small newspaper fire to drive them
out. I was rewarded with a big chunk of honeycomb falling down the flue into
the firebox. It was full of angry bees, fortunately all behind glass doors.
(Note I was stung a couple of years ago by one and had an acute reaction. My
hand swelled to about twice normal size and I had hives (not bee hives) under my
arms and in my groin. It took a steroid injection to give me relief.) After
dark when they settled down I gave them a good dusting with Sevin.

But they were still entrenched high up in the flue, so yesterday, I set a bigger
fire. It burned for an hour or so and died out. I went outside and the chimney
was smoking like crazy. It looked like I had a chimney fire so discretion being
the better par of valor, I called the fire department. However, three deputy
sheriff deputies showed up first. None of them had on masks or gloves. They
left when the firemen arrived. The firemen/paramedics weren't in masks or
gloves either. After a review of the situation they said let it burn, but given
my sensitivity stay away from the bees and call a bee removal expert. Then we
stood around in my living room for a few minutes and we queried them about the
virus. They reported that in all the calls they've answered, they have yet to
encounter a COVID victim. So we shook hands and they left. So much for social
distancing.

Wes N7WS

ps. I'm one of those 78 year olds that might not live long enough to get a K4
but I'm ready for the country to get back to work.

On 5/15/2020 3:54 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> We here in North Carolina will be beginning to open after next Friday, but
> very carefully. We do not want to see a resurgence of this virus.
> I need a haircut, and an appointment with my chiropractor, but those will have
> to wait because those are close physical contact situations.
> Since many of us are in the high risk category due to age, we must remain
> careful and vigilant even as things reopen. Facemasks and gloves are the
> order of the day for all outings as well as handwashing when we return home
> and hand sanitizer when not at home.
>
> It would be nice if all of this just went away, but that is wishful thinking
> during a major worldwide pandemic.
>
> The K4 will be ready when Elecraft can get the parts and start shipping. In
> the meantime, firmware updates and some Field Testing is all they can do.
>
> 73 and stay safe,
> Don W3FPR

Drew AF2Z

Re: K4???

I cut my own hair-- it is passable at "social distancing" distances.
Whatever it looks like it feels a lot better nice and short.

I suppose the K4 will be more of a finished product when it finally
ships, and fewer firmware updates will be necessary. I always enjoyed
installing the updates on the K3 so I hope there will still be some to
do when I finally get a K4 kit.

73,
Drew
AF2Z

On 05/15/20 20:02, Wes wrote:

> I got a much needed haircut today. Usually I take the dog to grooming
> and I get a haircut on the same day. He got groomed two weeks ago.
>
> For the last couple of days I've been battling the annual infestation of
> killer bees in my fireplace. Two days ago I set a small newspaper fire
> to drive them out. I was rewarded with a big chunk of honeycomb falling
> down the flue into the firebox. It was full of angry bees, fortunately
> all behind glass doors. (Note I was stung a couple of years ago by one
> and had an acute reaction. My hand swelled to about twice normal size
> and I had hives (not bee hives) under my arms and in my groin. It took
> a steroid injection to give me relief.) After dark when they settled
> down I gave them a good dusting with Sevin.
>
> But they were still entrenched high up in the flue, so yesterday, I set
> a bigger fire. It burned for an hour or so and died out. I went
> outside and the chimney was smoking like crazy. It looked like I had a
> chimney fire so discretion being the better par of valor, I called the
> fire department. However, three deputy sheriff deputies showed up
> first. None of them had on masks or gloves. They left when the firemen
> arrived. The firemen/paramedics weren't in masks or gloves either.
> After a review of the situation they said let it burn, but given my
> sensitivity stay away from the bees and call a bee removal expert. Then
> we stood around in my living room for a few minutes and we queried them
> about the virus. They reported that in all the calls they've answered,
> they have yet to encounter a COVID victim. So we shook hands and they
> left. So much for social distancing.
>
> Wes N7WS
>
> ps. I'm one of those 78 year olds that might not live long enough to
> get a K4 but I'm ready for the country to get back to work.
>
>
>
> On 5/15/2020 3:54 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> We here in North Carolina will be beginning to open after next Friday,
>> but very carefully. We do not want to see a resurgence of this virus.
>> I need a haircut, and an appointment with my chiropractor, but those
>> will have to wait because those are close physical contact situations.
>> Since many of us are in the high risk category due to age, we must
>> remain careful and vigilant even as things reopen. Facemasks and
>> gloves are the order of the day for all outings as well as handwashing
>> when we return home and hand sanitizer when not at home.
>>
>> It would be nice if all of this just went away, but that is wishful
>> thinking during a major worldwide pandemic.
>>
>> The K4 will be ready when Elecraft can get the parts and start
>> shipping. In the meantime, firmware updates and some Field Testing is
>> all they can do.
>>
>> 73 and stay safe,
>> Don W3FPR
>
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Bill Frantz

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To look on the bright side of the situation: The firmware is
getting used and tested, probably much more than it would be if
they could start assembly now. The extra testing should result
in a more reliable radio when it finally ships.

And I'm still waiting for the kit version.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 5/15/20 at 6:54 PM, [hidden email] (Don Wilhelm) wrote:

>The K4 will be ready when Elecraft can get the parts and start
>shipping. In the meantime, firmware updates and some Field
>Testing is all they can do.

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According to the evening newscasts out of LA, SOCAL is opening up this week. There are restrictions, but not not much different than many places on the East coast.

Sent from my iPad

> On May 15, 2020, at 7:06 PM, Jack Brindle via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> One thing Al doesn’t mention is that Sacramento is only calling part of the shots. Here in the Bay area we are under control of the local authorities, who have things locked down much tighter than the rest of the state. The state folks are talking about starting to ease things over the next week. Here it will be at least a month. Take a look at the info at the Santa Clara County website for more info. Then realize that Silicon Valley is mostly inside Santa Clara County, and you will then start to see why getting things built and shipped from here is so difficult.
>
> We will get out of this, we just need patience. At least we are finally starting to be able to get toilet paper and rice. Flour is very difficult, though. It seems that everyone is baking… Masks? Forget it. We have to make our own.
>
> 73!
> Jack, W6FB
>
>> On May 15, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Al Lorona <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Jim is right. Those of you outside of California would probably have a difficult time imagining how differently we are experiencing the lockdown-- which is an aptly descriptive noun-- here in California. The latest long-term outlook we received from Sacramento earlier this week made most of us gasp. We're running two or three months behind the majority of the country. It doesn't help that confusing, conflicting, or downright false information abounds. Patience.
>> Al W6LX
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Macy monkeys

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I'm letting my locks down for lock down. Grow, baby, grow. Never mind I have no hair on top. Neither did Ben Franklin. I'll cut my hair when the pandemic runs out of steam.

John K7FD

> On May 15, 2020, at 7:48 PM, Drew AF2Z <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I cut my own hair-- it is passable at "social distancing" distances. Whatever it looks like it feels a lot better nice and short.
>
> I suppose the K4 will be more of a finished product when it finally ships, and fewer firmware updates will be necessary. I always enjoyed installing the updates on the K3 so I hope there will still be some to do when I finally get a K4 kit.
>
> 73,
> Drew
> AF2Z
>
>
>
>> On 05/15/20 20:02, Wes wrote:
>> I got a much needed haircut today. Usually I take the dog to grooming and I get a haircut on the same day. He got groomed two weeks ago.
>> For the last couple of days I've been battling the annual infestation of killer bees in my fireplace. Two days ago I set a small newspaper fire to drive them out. I was rewarded with a big chunk of honeycomb falling down the flue into the firebox. It was full of angry bees, fortunately all behind glass doors. (Note I was stung a couple of years ago by one and had an acute reaction. My hand swelled to about twice normal size and I had hives (not bee hives) under my arms and in my groin. It took a steroid injection to give me relief.) After dark when they settled down I gave them a good dusting with Sevin.
>> But they were still entrenched high up in the flue, so yesterday, I set a bigger fire. It burned for an hour or so and died out. I went outside and the chimney was smoking like crazy. It looked like I had a chimney fire so discretion being the better par of valor, I called the fire department. However, three deputy sheriff deputies showed up first. None of them had on masks or gloves. They left when the firemen arrived. The firemen/paramedics weren't in masks or gloves either. After a review of the situation they said let it burn, but given my sensitivity stay away from the bees and call a bee removal expert. Then we stood around in my living room for a few minutes and we queried them about the virus. They reported that in all the calls they've answered, they have yet to encounter a COVID victim. So we shook hands and they left. So much for social distancing.
>> Wes N7WS
>> ps. I'm one of those 78 year olds that might not live long enough to get a K4 but I'm ready for the country to get back to work.
>>> On 5/15/2020 3:54 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>>> We here in North Carolina will be beginning to open after next Friday, but very carefully. We do not want to see a resurgence of this virus.
>>> I need a haircut, and an appointment with my chiropractor, but those will have to wait because those are close physical contact situations.
>>> Since many of us are in the high risk category due to age, we must remain careful and vigilant even as things reopen. Facemasks and gloves are the order of the day for all outings as well as handwashing when we return home and hand sanitizer when not at home.
>>>
>>> It would be nice if all of this just went away, but that is wishful thinking during a major worldwide pandemic.
>>>
>>> The K4 will be ready when Elecraft can get the parts and start shipping. In the meantime, firmware updates and some Field Testing is all they can do.
>>>
>>> 73 and stay safe,
>>> Don W3FPR
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Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ

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Hi everyone,

At Elecraft, like many of you, we are in our 9th week of shelter in place. This has been tough on all of us. Back on March 16th, when the initial California state and local orders were issued with an April 11 estimated end date, we suspected that it would last longer than that, but not as long as it this. The majority of our production team had to be furloughed immediately, with a few working from home. Most of our sales, support and the K4 engineering team have also been working from home. We allowed a minimal skeleton staff on site. ( Less than you can count on one hand, with each operating alone in large separate areas.). We've been able to ship a subset of our existing radios and accessories from finished goods stock, which has kept cash flow coming in. (We thank you for the continuing orders! )

We’ve also spent this time totally reorganizing our sales, operations, production and test areas for proper social distancing along with extreme cleaning and health screening procedures as per the new local and national COVID-19 guidelines for manufacturers. (Wearing masks at all times, Daily health screening upon entry to the building, additional spacing and partitions between work stations and ‘you touch it, you clean it’ procedures etc.) I’ll be posting links to some pictures of this in the next couple of days. This is a required change as per our local and State health departments.

Many of our local sub-contractors (sheet metal fabrication, circuit board assembly etc) have also been impacted by shelter in place orders. Over the coming weeks, as the State and local health authorities slowly allow more activity, we should be able to get better delivery estimates from them as they are able to ramp back up. Like us, they are eager to get back on line. National and international parts suppliers have been similarly impacted.

So what does this mean for first K4 shipments? Prior to the Covid-19 pandemic we were projecting first K4 deliveries beginning sometime in the April - May window this year. Obviously the pandemic has has thrown out those estimates. Based on a gradual reopening in California and other areas, our current feedback from suppliers, and taking into account unexpected delays, shortages, last minute engineering changes etc., my estimate is that first K4 shipments will begin somewhere in a window of late this July through the end of August. We’ll keep you informed as we get better information.

As a side note, I’d like to thank everyone who has ordered a K4 for your support. We anticipated seeing cancellations during this pandemic delay, but we have received very few. Our K4 order backlog has actually continued to increase over the past 9 weeks. Wow! You, as our supporters and customers, have continued to energize and amaze us as we have created new products for you these past 21 years. Thank you.

Also, as with all of our products, our engineering team keeps designing new features during the product‘s lifetime. They certainly have not been idle on the K4 during the shelter in place order. (Our DSP S/W defined radio architecture allows us to continually give you a ‘new’ radio with each new sw release. :-)

Keep an ear out for us on the air too. While making a few short test transmissions with my K4 this morning I ended up in a very nice QSO on 20M SSB! If you hear me, or others on our team, please say hello. We may be on a K4!

We hope you, your family and friends stay well during this difficult time.

73,
Eric
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> On May 15, 2020, at 3:55 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> We here in North Carolina will be beginning to open after next Friday, but very carefully. We do not want to see a resurgence of this virus.
> I need a haircut, and an appointment with my chiropractor, but those will have to wait because those are close physical contact situations.
> Since many of us are in the high risk category due to age, we must remain careful and vigilant even as things reopen. Facemasks and gloves are the order of the day for all outings as well as handwashing when we return home and hand sanitizer when not at home.
>
> It would be nice if all of this just went away, but that is wishful thinking during a major worldwide pandemic.
>
> The K4 will be ready when Elecraft can get the parts and start shipping. In the meantime, firmware updates and some Field Testing is all they can do.
>
> 73 and stay safe,
> Don W3FPR
>
>> On 5/15/2020 6:29 PM, Al Lorona wrote:
>> Jim is right. Those of you outside of California would probably have a difficult time imagining how differently we are experiencing the lockdown-- which is an aptly descriptive noun-- here in California. The latest long-term outlook we received from Sacramento earlier this week made most of us gasp. We're running two or three months behind the majority of the country. It doesn't help that confusing, conflicting, or downright false information abounds. Patience.
>> Al W6LX
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Jim Brown-10

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On 5/15/2020 7:48 PM, Drew AF2Z wrote:
> I cut my own hair-- it is passable at "social distancing" distances.
> Whatever it looks like it feels a lot better nice and short.

I get my hair cut a couple of times a year, whether it needs it or not.
My most recent was a month or two before going into lockdown. I'll let
my wife grab a bowl and do it when it gets too long. Better than COVID-19.

73, Jim K9YC

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Mike VE3YF

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Hi Eric:

Thanks for the nice update. Your date projection for the K4 is very
promising, however as we all know that Federal, State and Municipal
governments can really throw a wrench into everything. Good to see that
you and the crew is being pro-active and getting the work environment
all ready to be utilized in an post Covid-19 efficient manner. I hope
that everyone at Elecraft is doing well through these trying times. One
question though, will the HD option be ready at the time the first group
starts to ship, I have ordered and paid for a K4D, but thinking I might
upgrade to the HD version.

Stay Safe and well.

--

*73 De Mike*
*VE3YF

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wayne burdick

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Mike,

K4HDs will take longer. We were working on a final piece of the HDR module when the lockdown hit. It also uses additional parts affected by the supply chain, including crystal filters, different ADCs, etc.

Those who take delivery on a K4D can later upgrade to a K4HD at any time by installing the modules in the field or by sending the rig to Watsonville. Availability TBD.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

> On May 16, 2020, at 3:11 AM, Mike VE3YF <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Eric:
>
> Thanks for the nice update. Your date projection for the K4 is very promising, however as we all know that Federal, State and Municipal governments can really throw a wrench into everything. Good to see that you and the crew is being pro-active and getting the work environment all ready to be utilized in an post Covid-19 efficient manner. I hope that everyone at Elecraft is doing well through these trying times. One question though, will the HD option be ready at the time the first group starts to ship, I have ordered and paid for a K4D, but thinking I might upgrade to the HD version.
>
> Stay Safe and well.
>
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>
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Doug Turnbull

Re: K4???

Wayne and all,
Thank you, thus we know why the specifications for the K4HD are not
available. Though one wonders about K4 and K4D specs. What might we
expect if ARRL or Sherwood Engineering were to run their tests. No harm
in asking though you may have reasons for staying mum. You may be sure
that my deposit stays with Elecraft. The success of the K4 and indeed
Elecraft is important to me. I dare say that if you were inclined and if
it were legal shares in Elecraft could be sold along with your radios.
Elecraft is a company many of us want to support because product, support
and attitude are just first class.

73 Doug EI2CN

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
Sent: Saturday 16 May 2020 17:16
To: Mike VE3YF <[hidden email]>
Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4???

Mike,

K4HDs will take longer. We were working on a final piece of the HDR module
when the lockdown hit. It also uses additional parts affected by the supply
chain, including crystal filters, different ADCs, etc.

Those who take delivery on a K4D can later upgrade to a K4HD at any time by
installing the modules in the field or by sending the rig to Watsonville.
Availability TBD.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

> On May 16, 2020, at 3:11 AM, Mike VE3YF <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Eric:
>
> Thanks for the nice update. Your date projection for the K4 is very
promising, however as we all know that Federal, State and Municipal
governments can really throw a wrench into everything. Good to see that you
and the crew is being pro-active and getting the work environment all ready
to be utilized in an post Covid-19 efficient manner. I hope that everyone at
Elecraft is doing well through these trying times. One question though, will
the HD option be ready at the time the first group starts to ship, I have
ordered and paid for a K4D, but thinking I might upgrade to the HD version.

>
> Stay Safe and well.
>
> --
>
> *73 De Mike*
> *VE3YF
>
> _/http://www.ve3yf.com/_*
>
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Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT-3

Re: K4???

I love the general idea of a well-funded (dare I say "fan funded")
Elecraft, but I hope they do not sell shares and go public.

Under U.S. Law, Wayne and Eric would have to make decisions based on the
best interests of the shareholders -- that almost always means "making
more money."

There is an entire industry based around suing company leadership that
fails to do just that.

As long as they're privately held, the Dynamic Duo can make decisions
based on engineering and trying to please their customers instead of
planned obsolescence in the interest of making boatloads of money.

73 -- Lynn

On 5/16/20 10:27 AM, Doug Turnbull wrote:

> Wayne and all,
> Thank you, thus we know why the specifications for the K4HD are not
> available. Though one wonders about K4 and K4D specs. What might we
> expect if ARRL or Sherwood Engineering were to run their tests. No harm
> in asking though you may have reasons for staying mum. You may be sure
> that my deposit stays with Elecraft. The success of the K4 and indeed
> Elecraft is important to me. I dare say that if you were inclined and if
> it were legal shares in Elecraft could be sold along with your radios.
> Elecraft is a company many of us want to support because product, support
> and attitude are just first class.
>
> 73 Doug EI2CN

wayne burdick

Re: K4???

Administrator

Not to worry, Lynn. We're not going public :)

Wayne
N6KR

> On May 16, 2020, at 11:47 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I love the general idea of a well-funded (dare I say "fan funded") Elecraft, but I hope they do not sell shares and go public.
>
> Under U.S. Law, Wayne and Eric would have to make decisions based on the best interests of the shareholders -- that almost always means "making more money."
>
> There is an entire industry based around suing company leadership that fails to do just that.
>
> As long as they're privately held, the Dynamic Duo can make decisions based on engineering and trying to please their customers instead of planned obsolescence in the interest of making boatloads of money.
>
> 73 -- Lynn
>
> On 5/16/20 10:27 AM, Doug Turnbull wrote:
>> Wayne and all,
>> Thank you, thus we know why the specifications for the K4HD are not
>> available. Though one wonders about K4 and K4D specs. What might we
>> expect if ARRL or Sherwood Engineering were to run their tests. No harm
>> in asking though you may have reasons for staying mum. You may be sure
>> that my deposit stays with Elecraft. The success of the K4 and indeed
>> Elecraft is important to me. I dare say that if you were inclined and if
>> it were legal shares in Elecraft could be sold along with your radios.
>> Elecraft is a company many of us want to support because product, support
>> and attitude are just first class.
>> 73 Doug EI2CN

Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT-3

Re: K4???

I had no doubts at all. :-)

On 5/16/20 11:52 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

> Not to worry, Lynn. We're not going public :)
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>> On May 16, 2020, at 11:47 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I love the general idea of a well-funded (dare I say "fan funded") Elecraft, but I hope they do not sell shares and go public.
>>
>> Under U.S. Law, Wayne and Eric would have to make decisions based on the best interests of the shareholders -- that almost always means "making more money."
>>
>> There is an entire industry based around suing company leadership that fails to do just that.
>>
>> As long as they're privately held, the Dynamic Duo can make decisions based on engineering and trying to please their customers instead of planned obsolescence in the interest of making boatloads of money.
>>
>> 73 -- Lynn
>>
>> On 5/16/20 10:27 AM, Doug Turnbull wrote:
>>> Wayne and all,
>>> Thank you, thus we know why the specifications for the K4HD are not
>>> available. Though one wonders about K4 and K4D specs. What might we
>>> expect if ARRL or Sherwood Engineering were to run their tests. No harm
>>> in asking though you may have reasons for staying mum. You may be sure
>>> that my deposit stays with Elecraft. The success of the K4 and indeed
>>> Elecraft is important to me. I dare say that if you were inclined and if
>>> it were legal shares in Elecraft could be sold along with your radios.
>>> Elecraft is a company many of us want to support because product, support
>>> and attitude are just first class.
>>> 73 Doug EI2CN
>
>
>

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