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Bill W4ZV
Interesting comment from the contest reflector by Randy K5ZD.  This comes from someone who often wins the SOHP category in DX contests when he puts in a full time effort.

73,  Bill

http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/cq-contest/2010-February/089234.html

Put me in the category of people who thought that a radio just couldn't make
that much difference.  After all, I was working people and making good
scores.  Sure, there would be times I would have trouble finding a frequency
or copying a station through strong signals near the frequency, but that's
contesting, right?

After purchase and use of an Electraft K3 for CQWW CW and recently ARRL DX
CW, I have changed my opinion.  Very simply, the K3 was directly responsible
for my #1 or #2 USA score (subject to log checking) in WW CW.  I say this
because it enabled me to get into some prime run frequencies low in the band
on 40 and 20 meters that I would have never tried in the past.  (I had
almost given up on ever trying to CQ below 7025 in a DX contest.)

The difference is the receiver.  It is so quiet compared to my FT1000D, a
radio I had been very satisfied with for years.  No pops or beeps or phantom
signals.  

Top ten contest stations are loud.  People hear us.  Success comes from
being able to hear.  Even a few avoided repeats per hour can add up in total
score over the course of a weekend.

Its probably like antennas.  A single antenna works fine.  Add a stack and
you can't really hear much difference when switching back and forth on any
given signal.  Yet, over the weekend you find your scores are higher with
the stack.  I suspect the K3 is providing a similar advantage.  Not much
when listening to any given signal, but an advantage over time.

I am sure there are other high end radios that are just as good.  The K3 has
certainly impressed me with its receiver (especially on CW).  It doesn't
have quite as nice of a sound on SSB to match the effectiveness of CW, but
that's not my favorite mode anyway.

73,

Randy, K5ZD

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Re: K5ZD on K3

Jorge Diez - CX6VM
Very interesting...

So that´s means if I am in 14001.00 running in a contest +9000 miles from
Europe and USA he can land in 14001.15 and start running and of course I
will not interfere him, but obviously he will be louder than me when condx
open between USA and Europe.

If I have a K3 maybe I cannot heard him in 14001.15, but the European guys
that not have one will heard K5ZD and not me while condx better between
Europe and USA.

So all Europe must have a K3 to heard both K5ZD and CW5W, interesting, very
good news for Elecraft :-)

But no problem Randy, you are a friend, just I hope we choose a properly far
apart frequencies, hi hi hi...

73,
Jorge
CX6VM/CW5W


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Interesting comment from the contest reflector by Randy K5ZD.  This comes
from someone who often wins the SOHP category in DX contests when he puts in
a full time effort.

73,  Bill

http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/cq-contest/2010-February/089234.html

Put me in the category of people who thought that a radio just couldn't make
that much difference.  After all, I was working people and making good
scores.  Sure, there would be times I would have trouble finding a frequency
or copying a station through strong signals near the frequency, but that's
contesting, right?

After purchase and use of an Electraft K3 for CQWW CW and recently ARRL DX
CW, I have changed my opinion.  Very simply, the K3 was directly responsible
for my #1 or #2 USA score (subject to log checking) in WW CW.  I say this
because it enabled me to get into some prime run frequencies low in the band
on 40 and 20 meters that I would have never tried in the past.  (I had
almost given up on ever trying to CQ below 7025 in a DX contest.)

The difference is the receiver.  It is so quiet compared to my FT1000D, a
radio I had been very satisfied with for years.  No pops or beeps or phantom
signals.  

Top ten contest stations are loud.  People hear us.  Success comes from
being able to hear.  Even a few avoided repeats per hour can add up in total
score over the course of a weekend.

Its probably like antennas.  A single antenna works fine.  Add a stack and
you can't really hear much difference when switching back and forth on any
given signal.  Yet, over the weekend you find your scores are higher with
the stack.  I suspect the K3 is providing a similar advantage.  Not much
when listening to any given signal, but an advantage over time.

I am sure there are other high end radios that are just as good.  The K3 has
certainly impressed me with its receiver (especially on CW).  It doesn't
have quite as nice of a sound on SSB to match the effectiveness of CW, but
that's not my favorite mode anyway.

73,

Randy, K5ZD


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Re: K5ZD on K3

Barry N1EU
Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote
Very interesting...

So that´s means  . . .
Yes, the long and short of it is that it benefits both a running and S&P contester to use a K3.  Further discussion probably best takes place on the CQ-Contest reflector where Randy posted.

73, Barry N1EU
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Re: K5ZD on K3

Bill W4ZV
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On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM [via Elecraft]
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> So that´s means if I am in 14001.00 running in a contest +9000 miles from
> Europe and USA he can land in 14001.15 and start running and of course I
> will not interfere him, but obviously he will be louder than me when condx
> open between USA and Europe.

Jorge it works the other way also.  Many times I've been running EU on
10m only to have a Caribbean or South American station start
transmitting near my QRG.  They don't hear me because I'm beaming EU
and only copy them via weak backscatter so they cannot hear me when I
send "QRL".  Even worse is when some DX station starts operating split
and QSX on my run frequency.

Such is life in contests and has nothing to do with the K3.

73,  Bill
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Re: K5ZD on K3

lstavenhagen
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Heck, even my K2 has reawakened my interest in contesting. I did a little bit of hunting/pecking in CW contests back when I was in college. The club station (W5EHM at UT Austin) had a TS-830 and a huge tribander on top of the engineering building and I'd make quite a few QSO's from there.

After that, I've tried it with my 706MKIIG with my own ants and it's just a tragedy of desense and IMD, so I kind of lost interest in contesting, at least on my own.

During the recent CW DX contest, tho, I was just stunned and amazed with my K2's RX as I was able to crawl right inside the holes here and there in between the big run freqs and find all kinds of faint stations. XFIL was all I needed to get rid of them completely hi hi.

I even worked two stations (a P40 and a KH6) on 15 meters with my indoor ant and 10 watts.

So I'm probably going to try to get back into contesting, even working those 2 stations was quite a thrill....

But as for the rig, I can only imagine the "wall" you can have with the K3, even as good as it is with my K2!

73,
LS
W5QD