KIO2: Programming message memories not possible?

[David Woolley (E.L)]

Am I correct in my reading of the programming document in saying that
one cannot program the message memories from the computer, but can only
do so with a paddle key?

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[Don Wilhelm-4]

David,

I do believe that is correct, but take a look at the KY command.  With a
computer connected, you can store many, many CW messages in the computer
as ASCII text and send them using the KY command.

Unfortunately, this command is K2 unique and is not supported by any of
the popular rig control programs - but if you are writing your own app,
it may be a good thing to include.

I believe the K3 includes the same command, so perhaps it will be
supported in the future.

73,
Don W3FPR

David Woolley wrote:
> Am I correct in my reading of the programming document in saying that
> one cannot program the message memories from the computer, but can
> only do so with a paddle key?
>
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[N8LP]

The internal K2 keyer is supported in TRX-Manager. There is a separate
little K2 keyer windows that lets you enter text which is sent to the
K2. I don't remember offhand whether that interface has memories like
the main TRX keyer, but I suspect it does.

Larry N8LP



Don Wilhelm wrote:

> David,
>
> I do believe that is correct, but take a look at the KY command.  With
> a computer connected, you can store many, many CW messages in the
> computer as ASCII text and send them using the KY command.
>
> Unfortunately, this command is K2 unique and is not supported by any
> of the popular rig control programs - but if you are writing your own
> app, it may be a good thing to include.
> I believe the K3 includes the same command, so perhaps it will be
> supported in the future.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> David Woolley wrote:
>> Am I correct in my reading of the programming document in saying that
>> one cannot program the message memories from the computer, but can
>> only do so with a paddle key?
>>
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[Joe Subich, W4TV]

> Unfortunately, this command is K2 unique and is not supported
> by any of the popular rig control programs - but if you are
> writing your own app,

The KY command is also supported by the TS-2000, TS-480, TS-870
and TS-570.  

KY is used by WinWarbler (part of the DXLab Suite) as an option
for CW generation with those radios that support it.  WinWarbler's
macro facility can also use the KY command for stored messages.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:43 AM
> To: David Woolley
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KIO2: Programming message memories
> not possible?
>
>
> David,
>
> I do believe that is correct, but take a look at the KY
> command.  With a
> computer connected, you can store many, many CW messages in
> the computer
> as ASCII text and send them using the KY command.
>
> Unfortunately, this command is K2 unique and is not supported
> by any of
> the popular rig control programs - but if you are writing
> your own app,
> it may be a good thing to include.
>
> I believe the K3 includes the same command, so perhaps it will be
> supported in the future.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> David Woolley wrote:
> > Am I correct in my reading of the programming document in
> saying that
> > one cannot program the message memories from the computer, but can
> > only do so with a paddle key?
> >

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[David Woolley (E.L)]

Don Wilhelm wrote:
> I do believe that is correct, but take a look at the KY command.  With a
> computer connected, you can store many, many CW messages in the computer
> as ASCII text and send them using the KY command.
>

The problem is that I'm antenna restricted where the PC is, so I wanted
to be able to load the memories before moving the K2 to a local park,
where I hope I can throw up a temporary antenna.  I only have a straight
key at the moment.

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[Jack Brindle]

Well, perhaps there is another way. There are many programs that can  
generate CW to key a radio. Why not set one up with the messages you  
want to place in memory, then for each message, push the K2 buttons  
to program a message, then have the computer send that message. When  
it is finished, push the buttons to finish the process. This should  
get the messages in the memory just the way you want, without  
worrying about making mistakes while you send the code.

It _should_ work. Haven't tried it, though...


On Aug 22, 2007, at 3:37 PM, David Woolley wrote:

> Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> I do believe that is correct, but take a look at the KY command.  
>> With a computer connected, you can store many, many CW messages in  
>> the computer as ASCII text and send them using the KY command.
>
> The problem is that I'm antenna restricted where the PC is, so I  
> wanted
> to be able to load the memories before moving the K2 to a local  
> park, where I hope I can throw up a temporary antenna.  I only have  
> a straight key at the moment.
>
> --
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- Jack Brindle, W6FB
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[David Woolley (E.L)]

Jack Brindle wrote:
> Well, perhaps there is another way. There are many programs that can
> generate CW to key a radio. Why not set one up with the messages you

They generally simulate a straight key.

> want to place in memory, then for each message, push the K2 buttons to

The K2 rejects the record button when set for a hand key, presumably for
similar reasons to those that mean that computer morse readers are still
much worse at distinguishing di's dah', and gaps than a human, even if
the human can't recall the character as fast.

Simulating a paddle key has programming difficulties, in that one has to
 
                                 get the right timing so that the next
paddle operation is simulated when it is expected.



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[Simon (HB9DRV)]

FWIW I am currently adding the fldigi CW decoder into a HRD program.

ftp://ftp.ham-radio.ch/common/Pictures/What%20is%20this.JPG

I plan to support TX via the KY command and also using K1EL's keyers.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Wilhelm" <[hidden email]>
>
> I do believe that is correct, but take a look at the KY command.  With a
> computer connected, you can store many, many CW messages in the computer
> as ASCII text and send them using the KY command.
>
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