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KPA 500 Codan Envoy

Bob Morgan
I would like to know if any in the group has used the KPA 500 with a Codan
Envoy 2. Any help would be much appreciated.
Bob Morgan
KJ4SV
865 207 9568



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Re: KPA 500 Codan Envoy

Mark Goldberg
That is not a Ham radio. Is it legal to use an amplifier type accepted
for Ham radio for other services?

73,

Mark
W7MLG


On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 6:49 AM Bob Morgan <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> I would like to know if any in the group has used the KPA 500 with a Codan
> Envoy 2. Any help would be much appreciated.
> Bob Morgan
> KJ4SV
> 865 207 9568
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Re: KPA 500 Codan Envoy

Lyn WØLEN
Maybe Bob wants to use the Envoy 2 on the ham bands.  I'm not familiar with
the Codan line of military/business transceivers, but I see that model does
have transmit coverage from 1.6 to 30 MHz.

Perhaps the real question is whether it would be legal to use that rig on
the ham bands.  Since it can apparently cover the 160 - 10m bands without
modification, wouldn't it need to be type accepted?

73
Lyn, W0LEN
 

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Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 9:09 AM
To: Bob Morgan
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA 500 Codan Envoy

That is not a Ham radio. Is it legal to use an amplifier type accepted
for Ham radio for other services?

73,

Mark
W7MLG


On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 6:49 AM Bob Morgan <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> I would like to know if any in the group has used the KPA 500 with a Codan
> Envoy 2. Any help would be much appreciated.
> Bob Morgan
> KJ4SV
> 865 207 9568
>
>
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Re: KPA 500 Codan Envoy

Charlie T, K3ICH
" Perhaps the real question is whether it would be legal to use that rig on
the ham bands.  Since it can apparently cover the 160 - 10m bands without
modification, wouldn't it need to be type accepted?"


Only if the company's intention was to sell specifically to the HAM
community.

They of course, have the OK for their existing market.

Also, any licensed ham could use this radio if it was obtained on the "used"
market.
If this were NOT legal, we could therefore, not use commercial  an old BC
transmitter for legal limit AM.
Or, for that matter ANY radio not designated for HAM use.....obviously, NOT
the case.

73, Charlie k3ICH




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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA 500 Codan Envoy

Maybe Bob wants to use the Envoy 2 on the ham bands.  I'm not familiar with
the Codan line of military/business transceivers, but I see that model does
have transmit coverage from 1.6 to 30 MHz.

Perhaps the real question is whether it would be legal to use that rig on
the ham bands.  Since it can apparently cover the 160 - 10m bands without
modification, wouldn't it need to be type accepted?

73
Lyn, W0LEN
 

 

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Re: KPA 500 Codan Envoy

Mark Goldberg
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I think as a Ham, you can use anything you want on the Ham bands. As a
manufacturer to sell it, it may need type acceptance for the service
it is intended to be used in.

Lots of people use aviation HF rigs on the Ham bands and you can use
an amp that works on 11M or with more than the allowable gain. A
manufacturer can't sell that for use in the Ham bands, but an
individual Ham can use anything as long as it is operated within the
regulations. I know a friend that has a huge amplifier capable of
maybe 10kW. He got a visit from the FCC (long ago, don't think they
care now). He showed them how it was correctly operated within the
regs and how he had the ability to measure it and assure it was. The
FCC guy wished him a good day.

Other services where the operator is not technical and has not passed
a technical exam require radios type accepted for that service as I
understand things.

73,

Mark
W7MLG

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 7:47 AM Lyn Norstad <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Maybe Bob wants to use the Envoy 2 on the ham bands.  I'm not familiar with
> the Codan line of military/business transceivers, but I see that model does
> have transmit coverage from 1.6 to 30 MHz.
>
> Perhaps the real question is whether it would be legal to use that rig on
> the ham bands.  Since it can apparently cover the 160 - 10m bands without
> modification, wouldn't it need to be type accepted?
>
> 73
> Lyn, W0LEN
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mark Goldberg
> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 9:09 AM
> To: Bob Morgan
> Cc: Elecraft Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA 500 Codan Envoy
>
> That is not a Ham radio. Is it legal to use an amplifier type accepted
> for Ham radio for other services?
>
> 73,
>
> Mark
> W7MLG
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 6:49 AM Bob Morgan <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > I would like to know if any in the group has used the KPA 500 with a Codan
> > Envoy 2. Any help would be much appreciated.
> > Bob Morgan
> > KJ4SV
> > 865 207 9568
> >
> >
> >
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Re: KPA 500 Codan Envoy

Bill Steffey NY9H
maybe the real questions are     will the KPA500 work withan ALE
requirement????

Band jumping and other cool stuff are essential for  ALE.

On 6/29/2020 11:52 AM, Mark Goldberg wrote:

> I think as a Ham, you can use anything you want on the Ham bands. As a
> manufacturer to sell it, it may need type acceptance for the service
> it is intended to be used in.
>
> Lots of people use aviation HF rigs on the Ham bands and you can use
> an amp that works on 11M or with more than the allowable gain. A
> manufacturer can't sell that for use in the Ham bands, but an
> individual Ham can use anything as long as it is operated within the
> regulations. I know a friend that has a huge amplifier capable of
> maybe 10kW. He got a visit from the FCC (long ago, don't think they
> care now). He showed them how it was correctly operated within the
> regs and how he had the ability to measure it and assure it was. The
> FCC guy wished him a good day.
>
> Other services where the operator is not technical and has not passed
> a technical exam require radios type accepted for that service as I
> understand things.
>
> 73,
>
> Mark
> W7MLG
>
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 7:47 AM Lyn Norstad <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Maybe Bob wants to use the Envoy 2 on the ham bands.  I'm not familiar with
>> the Codan line of military/business transceivers, but I see that model does
>> have transmit coverage from 1.6 to 30 MHz.
>>
>> Perhaps the real question is whether it would be legal to use that rig on
>> the ham bands.  Since it can apparently cover the 160 - 10m bands without
>> modification, wouldn't it need to be type accepted?
>>
>> 73
>> Lyn, W0LEN
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email]
>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mark Goldberg
>> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 9:09 AM
>> To: Bob Morgan
>> Cc: Elecraft Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA 500 Codan Envoy
>>
>> That is not a Ham radio. Is it legal to use an amplifier type accepted
>> for Ham radio for other services?
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Mark
>> W7MLG
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 6:49 AM Bob Morgan <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> I would like to know if any in the group has used the KPA 500 with a Codan
>>> Envoy 2. Any help would be much appreciated.
>>> Bob Morgan
>>> KJ4SV
>>> 865 207 9568
>>>
>>>
>>>
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