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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: UPGRADE VERSION 3.11

Atilano,

The K3 is waiting for a firmware load - MCU LD plus a blinking TX
indicator is how that condition is displayed.

I suggest you download the firmware again to assure that you do not have
a corrupt firmware file on your computer, then run K3 Utility again to
load the firmware. Load all the firmware, including the data tables.

73,
Don W3FPR

py5eg wrote:

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ayoshida

Re: UPGRADE VERSION 3.11

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Atilano

If you are using USB interface then try legacy COM port.
Some kind of USB interface cause this problem.

73
aki ja1nlx

py5eg wrote:

> Hi Folks:
>
> During a upgrade procedure of one of my K3 to version 3.11 a malfunction has occurred
>
> 1) A message asking to turn the K3 of and on again to continue the upgrade
> 2) I tried to turn of and didn´t succeed
> 3) I turned the power supply off and turned on again,and turned the K3 on
> 4) The process crushed and with the display was off with "MCU LD"
> 5) The TX led blinking and no way to turn off
>
> What should I do?
>
> Atilano
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py5eg

RES: UPGRADE VERSION 3.11

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Hi Don
Thanks for your help
I already download the firmware. I try to run the K3 utility but there is no access to the upgrade transfer.
The problem now is that the K3 does not turn on again.
When I switch on the LCD has no light and only the message "MCU LD" and also the TX led blinks

What can I do?
Thanks in advance

Regards
Atilano

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De: Don Wilhelm [mailto:[hidden email]]
Enviada: qua 27/5/2009 18:49
Para: py5eg
Cc: [hidden email]
Assunto: Re: [Elecraft] UPGRADE VERSION 3.11

Atilano,

The K3 is waiting for a firmware load - MCU LD plus a blinking TX
indicator is how that condition is displayed.

I suggest you download the firmware again to assure that you do not have
a corrupt firmware file on your computer, then run K3 Utility again to
load the firmware. Load all the firmware, including the data tables.

73,
Don W3FPR

py5eg wrote:

py5eg

RES: UPGRADE VERSION 3.11

In reply to this post by ayoshida

Hi aki
I´m using a standard serial port directly connected to the K3.
73
Oms

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De: a yoshida [mailto:[hidden email]]
Enviada: qua 27/5/2009 19:41
Para: py5eg
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Assunto: Re: [Elecraft] UPGRADE VERSION 3.11

Atilano

If you are using USB interface then try legacy COM port.
Some kind of USB interface cause this problem.

73
aki ja1nlx

py5eg wrote:

KK7P

Re: RES: UPGRADE VERSION 3.11

In reply to this post by py5eg

Please open K3 Utility Help -> Troubleshooting -> Forcing the K3 into
"Firmware Load Required" Mode. It explains the recovery procedure to
follow.

73,

Lyle KK7P

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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: RES: UPGRADE VERSION 3.11

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Atilano,

Your K3 *is* powered on, and with the TX light blinking *and* with the
MCU LD on the LCD, it is waiting for a firmware load.

Follow the steps in the K3 Utility Help menu - "Troubleshooting" -
"Force K3 into Firmware Load Required" to be certain the K3 is ready for
the *beginning* of a firmware load.

If you do not have the latest version of K3 Utility, that may be part of
your problem. Download the latest version from the Elecraft website.

73,
Don W3FPR

py5eg wrote:

> Hi Don
> Thanks for your help
> I already download the firmware. I try to run the K3 utility but there is no access to the upgrade transfer.
> The problem now is that the K3 does not turn on again.
> When I switch on the LCD has no light and only the message "MCU LD" and also the TX led blinks
>
> What can I do?
> Thanks in advance
>
> Regards
> Atilano
>
> ________________________________
>
> De: Don Wilhelm [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Enviada: qua 27/5/2009 18:49
> Para: py5eg
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Assunto: Re: [Elecraft] UPGRADE VERSION 3.11
>
>
>
> Atilano,
>
> The K3 is waiting for a firmware load - MCU LD plus a blinking TX
> indicator is how that condition is displayed.
>
> I suggest you download the firmware again to assure that you do not have
> a corrupt firmware file on your computer, then run K3 Utility again to
> load the firmware. Load all the firmware, including the data tables.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> py5eg wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks:
>>
>> During a upgrade procedure of one of my K3 to version 3.11 a malfunction has occurred
>>
>> 1) A message asking to turn the K3 of and on again to continue the upgrade
>> 2) I tried to turn of and didn´t succeed
>> 3) I turned the power supply off and turned on again,and turned the K3 on
>> 4) The process crushed and with the display was off with "MCU LD"
>> 5) The TX led blinking and no way to turn off
>>
>> What should I do?
>>
>> Atilano
>>
>>
>>
>
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py5eg

RES: RES: UPGRADE VERSION 3.11

Hi Don
Thanks for the tip
I will do that
Atilano PY5EG

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De: Don Wilhelm [mailto:[hidden email]]
Enviada: qua 27/5/2009 20:16
Para: py5eg
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Assunto: Re: [Elecraft] RES: UPGRADE VERSION 3.11

Atilano,

Your K3 *is* powered on, and with the TX light blinking *and* with the
MCU LD on the LCD, it is waiting for a firmware load.

Follow the steps in the K3 Utility Help menu - "Troubleshooting" -
"Force K3 into Firmware Load Required" to be certain the K3 is ready for
the *beginning* of a firmware load.

If you do not have the latest version of K3 Utility, that may be part of
your problem. Download the latest version from the Elecraft website.

73,
Don W3FPR

py5eg wrote:

py5eg

RES: RES: UPGRADE VERSION 3.11

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Thanks for the tip Lyle
73
Oms PY5EG

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De: Lyle Johnson [mailto:[hidden email]]
Enviada: qua 27/5/2009 20:01
Para: py5eg
Cc: [hidden email]; [hidden email]
Assunto: Re: [Elecraft] RES: UPGRADE VERSION 3.11

Please open K3 Utility Help -> Troubleshooting -> Forcing the K3 into
"Firmware Load Required" Mode. It explains the recovery procedure to
follow.

73,

Lyle KK7P

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Jon Kåre Hellan

Re: UPGRADE VERSION 3.11

In reply to this post by Don Wilhelm-4

Don Wilhelm wrote:

> Atilano,
>
> The K3 is waiting for a firmware load - MCU LD plus a blinking TX
> indicator is how that condition is displayed.
>
> I suggest you download the firmware again to assure that you do not have
> a corrupt firmware file on your computer, then run K3 Utility again to
> load the firmware. Load all the firmware, including the data tables.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR

One blunder I once made was to let the battery run down.

Context: Upgrade appeared to have gone well, but I got an error message. This turned out to
be a hardware fault on the K3, but that's another story. At the time, I thought it was firmware,
so I wanted to upload again from a different computer. It was much more convenient to do it on
battery. The K3 powered on, showing MCU LD / blinking TX, but the K3 utility was unable to talk
to the radio.

It took some frantic correspondence with support before I thought about checking the battery
voltage - which turned out be about 8 V !

Embarassing.

73
Jon LA4RT

>
> py5eg wrote:
>> Hi Folks:
>>
>> During a upgrade procedure of one of my K3 to version 3.11 a malfunction has occurred
>>
>> 1) A message asking to turn the K3 of and on again to continue the upgrade
>> 2) I tried to turn of and didn´t succeed
>> 3) I turned the power supply off and turned on again,and turned the K3 on
>> 4) The process crushed and with the display was off with "MCU LD"
>> 5) The TX led blinking and no way to turn off
>>
>> What should I do?
>>
>> Atilano
>>
>>
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Don Greenbaum

What are you guys using for external speakers?

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For loud stations and ragchews I don't use headphones. I'm currently using my old Yaesu SP-8 but it hardly matches the K3 paint. Anything out there that looks (and works) better?

Don
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MontyS

Re: What are you guys using for external speakers?

Sheesh, you call that old? I'm using a 10-inch Hallicrafters R46-B. Great
audio, and the K3 could sit inside if I were clever.

Monty K2DLJ

> For loud stations and ragchews I don't use headphones. I'm currently
> using my old Yaesu SP-8 but it hardly matches the K3 paint. Anything out
> there that looks (and works) better?
>
> Don
> N1DG

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w4nhj

Re: What are you guys using for external speakers?

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If you are only using one speaker on your K3, you are missing out. The K3
sounds better with two speakers and the SPKRS menu set to two. Even normal
(non AFX) audio sounds better with two speakers. I like AFX set to Bin, but
delay as also great. Try it, I think you will like it.

I had two old 4 1/2" speakers I picked up at a yard sale. They had good
size magnets so I gave them a try. They sounded OK. I then built two
speaker cabinets out of 3/4" MDF. I made the outside dimensions approx. 6
1/2" x 6 1/2" x 10" deep, the same depth as the K3. I painted them satin
black to match the K3. The speakers sounded much better in the cabinets and
they look good also. Saved $200 and I think they sound better then the
Japanese speakers in the metal cabinets.

Frank - W4NHJ

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Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 1:17 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] What are you guys using for external speakers?

> For loud stations and ragchews I don't use headphones. I'm currently
> using my old Yaesu SP-8 but it hardly matches the K3 paint. Anything out
> there that looks (and works) better?
>
> Don
> N1DG
>
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Dick Dickinson

Re: What are you guys using for external speakers?

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The Realistic Minimus-7 Speakers look good aside the K3. They are two-way,
with cast metal enclosures and were available in black and perhaps white.
When set on their side, rather than bottom they are the same height as the
K3. 8 Ohm, 40 Watt. Each speaker is 4 1/2" wide by 7 1/8" high x ~4 1/4"
deep. They sound good on an external amp.

Further, if you want an external amp, the Realistic STA-19 AM/FM Stereo
Personal Receiver is a good bet. Not too big. It's width is about 1/4"
less than that of the K3 and height is about 2 5/8". When the Minimus-7
Speakers are set on their bottoms aside a K3 with an STA-19 on top, they are
a near match in height. That makes for a nice looking and decent sounding
setup.

The STA-19 with Minimus-7s was a nice set from Radio Shack/Realistic...some
20 years ago. The speakers were also available without the receiver. The
STA-19 has proven reliable.

The basic look of the Minimus-7s were used for quite a few similar speakers
from RS. I seem to recall there were differences in the sound quality
between different models.

I am currently running my STA-19 driving a pair of Dukane 8" PA speaker in
baffles. I may switch to the other as space needs change.

Best regards,
Dick - KA5KKT

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Matt Zilmer

Re: What are you guys using for external speakers?

In reply to this post by Don Greenbaum

I have an inventory of old Motorola mobile 4-1/2" speakers in plastic
enclosures. These seem to work quite well, and they're easy to
acquire at swap meets and on eBay.

They're not hi-fi, but they do present well for non-music receiving.

73,
matt zilmer W6NIA

On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 13:17:47 -0400, you wrote:

>For loud stations and ragchews I don't use headphones. I'm currently using my old Yaesu SP-8 but it hardly matches the K3 paint. Anything out there that looks (and works) better?
>
>Don
>N1DG
>
>-----------------------------------------------------
>N1DG--Licensed since 1962
>EX-WB2DND, A61AD (GUEST OP, QSL MGR), A52DG, /KH9, /BV, /VS6, /4X, /9V
>Pilot: VU7RG, 3Y0X, VK9ML, D68C, VK0IR, K8XP/KH9, 9M0C, ZK1XXP, ZL9CI
>Webmaster: BS7H, 3Y0X, K5K, A52A, VK0IR, 9M0C, ZK1XXP, WB2DND/KH9, BQ9P, ZL9CI
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Steve Ellington

Re: What are you guys using for external speakers?

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Frank: We need to see a picture of those babies!
Steve Ellington
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> If you are only using one speaker on your K3, you are missing out. The K3
> sounds better with two speakers and the SPKRS menu set to two. Even
> normal
> (non AFX) audio sounds better with two speakers. I like AFX set to Bin,
> but
> delay as also great. Try it, I think you will like it.
>
> I had two old 4 1/2" speakers I picked up at a yard sale. They had good
> size magnets so I gave them a try. They sounded OK. I then built two
> speaker cabinets out of 3/4" MDF. I made the outside dimensions approx. 6
> 1/2" x 6 1/2" x 10" deep, the same depth as the K3. I painted them satin
> black to match the K3. The speakers sounded much better in the cabinets
> and
> they look good also. Saved $200 and I think they sound better then the
> Japanese speakers in the metal cabinets.
>
> Frank - W4NHJ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don Greenbaum" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 1:17 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] What are you guys using for external speakers?
>
>
>> For loud stations and ragchews I don't use headphones. I'm currently
>> using my old Yaesu SP-8 but it hardly matches the K3 paint. Anything out
>> there that looks (and works) better?
>>
>> Don
>> N1DG
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------
>> N1DG--Licensed since 1962
>> EX-WB2DND, A61AD (GUEST OP, QSL MGR), A52DG, /KH9, /BV, /VS6, /4X, /9V
>> Pilot: VU7RG, 3Y0X, VK9ML, D68C, VK0IR, K8XP/KH9, 9M0C, ZK1XXP, ZL9CI
>> Webmaster: BS7H, 3Y0X, K5K, A52A, VK0IR, 9M0C, ZK1XXP, WB2DND/KH9, BQ9P,
>> ZL9CI
>> QSL Manager: A61AD, A61AO, A61X, A61AQ
>> 2006 inductee into the CQ Magazine DX Hall of Fame
>> Member: FOC, ARRL, DDXA, YCCC
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Gary Hinson

Re: What are you guys using for external speakers?

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> I had two old 4 1/2" speakers I picked up at a yard sale ...

Many of us have decent hi-fi speakers sitting there on the desk already - in
my case a lovely set of Bose PC speakers, a fantastic present from my YL.
PC speakers (other than Bose anyway!) are cheap. They are amplified, have a
wide frequency range and none of the booming or rattling resonances which my
homebrew speakers always seemed to have.

The Bose speakers have two sets of stereo inputs so I can run both the PC
and the rig into them at the same time, controlling the levels independently
on the PC and K3. It shouldn't be too hard to provide 2 inputs on others
if you're willing to open the box and experiment. Alternatively, I guess
you can run the rig's line level output into the PC sound card input, and
configure the card to play it through the PC speakers, using the cound
card's input level control to set the rig level and output volume control
for both PC sounds and RX audio.

You *may* need to use ferrites or decouplers to keep RF out of them but I've
never had a problem with any of mine. Avoid any with nasty cheap
switch-mode PSUs like the plague though! Most seem to run fine on 13.8V byt
YMMV.

73
Gary ZL2iFB

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WA2SI

Re: What are you guys using for external speakers?

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I use the Sounds Sweet speaker with very pleasing results.

http://www.soundssweet.com/

Vy 73 de Bert
WA2SI
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Arie Kleingeld PA3A-2

Re: What are you guys using for external speakers?

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Two simple computer speakers (only a few bucks on a flee market) -->
fine audio.

73, Arie PA3A

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Onderwerp: [Elecraft] What are you guys using for external speakers?

For loud stations and ragchews I don't use headphones. I'm currently
using my old Yaesu SP-8 but it hardly matches the K3 paint. Anything
out there that looks (and works) better?

Don
N1DG

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pd0psb

Re: What are you guys using for external speakers?

Avantone mixcubes.
Excellent speech quality, developped in...... California ofcourse......:-)

http://www.avantelectronics.com/AVANTONE_mixcubes.htm

73'
Paul
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w4nhj

Re: What are you guys using for external speakers?

In reply to this post by Steve Ellington

Steve,

I posted two photos on the K3 Yahoo group. The album name is K3 speakers.

Frank - W4NHJ

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Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What are you guys using for external speakers?

> Frank: We need to see a picture of those babies!
> Steve Ellington
> [hidden email]
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Frank Ross W4NHJ" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 4:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What are you guys using for external speakers?
>
>
>> If you are only using one speaker on your K3, you are missing out. The
>> K3
>> sounds better with two speakers and the SPKRS menu set to two. Even
>> normal
>> (non AFX) audio sounds better with two speakers. I like AFX set to Bin,
>> but
>> delay as also great. Try it, I think you will like it.
>>
>> I had two old 4 1/2" speakers I picked up at a yard sale. They had good
>> size magnets so I gave them a try. They sounded OK. I then built two
>> speaker cabinets out of 3/4" MDF. I made the outside dimensions approx.
>> 6
>> 1/2" x 6 1/2" x 10" deep, the same depth as the K3. I painted them satin
>> black to match the K3. The speakers sounded much better in the cabinets
>> and
>> they look good also. Saved $200 and I think they sound better then the
>> Japanese speakers in the metal cabinets.
>>
>> Frank - W4NHJ
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Don Greenbaum" <[hidden email]>
>> To: <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 1:17 PM
>> Subject: [Elecraft] What are you guys using for external speakers?
>>
>>
>>> For loud stations and ragchews I don't use headphones. I'm currently
>>> using my old Yaesu SP-8 but it hardly matches the K3 paint. Anything
>>> out
>>> there that looks (and works) better?
>>>
>>> Don
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