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KPA power out

Indy-3
Had never checked the power out for my KPA-100, so did so.  Took the KAT-100 out of the chain for the test, using dummy load.  Startled by the results:

band          K2          KPA-100    KPA-100  
                                   thru ATU     no ATU
160 ------- 10.7 ---------100 --------- 100
  80 ------- 15.0 ---------100 --------- 100
  40 ------- 14.1 ---------  90 ---------   90
  30 ------- 14.2 ---------  80 ---------   80
  20 ------- 14.5 ---------  50 ---------   50
  17 ------- 14.4 ---------  60 ---------   60
  15 ------- 14.5 ---------  60 ---------   60
  12 ------- 14.1 ---------100 ---------   40
  10 ------- 14.7 ---------100 ---------   25

Dunno what to make of it.

73

Fred
kt5x
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RE: KPA power out

Ron D'Eau Claire-2
Fred KT5X wrote:

Took the KAT-100 out of the chain for the test, using dummy load.  Startled
by the results:

band          K2          KPA-100    KPA-100  
                                   thru ATU     no ATU
160 ------- 10.7 ---------100 --------- 100
  80 ------- 15.0 ---------100 --------- 100
  40 ------- 14.1 ---------  90 ---------   90
  30 ------- 14.2 ---------  80 ---------   80
  20 ------- 14.5 ---------  50 ---------   50
  17 ------- 14.4 ---------  60 ---------   60
  15 ------- 14.5 ---------  60 ---------   60
  12 ------- 14.1 ---------100 ---------   40
  10 ------- 14.7 ---------100 ---------   25

Dunno what to make of it.

--------------------------------------

Something isn't right in both the KPA100 and ATU from the looks of it, Fred!


I can't speak to the ATU issue of poor efficiency on 10/12 meters since I
don't have a KAT100. The droop on 30-15 meters from the KPA100 suggests an
issue with the bandpass filters. The KPA100 typically exceeds 100 watts
output quite easily. The fact that yours doesn't suggests low supply voltage
or a measurement error that is showing a slightly low output across the
board.

Suggest you look very closely at your bandpass filter components for the low
bands. The KPA100 manual also has a procedure for checking the bandpass
filters using an antenna analyzer, if you have access to one.

Just for the "record", here's what my K2/100 delivers at full power into a
dummy load:

160: 112 watts

 80: 108 watts

 60: 110 watts (legal limit on this band is 50 watts erp, of course)

 40: 112 watts

 30: 107 watts
 
 20: 105 watts

 18: 111 watts

 15: 106 watts

 12: 104 watts

 10: 106 watts at 28 MHz, 46 watts at 29.5 MHz

That roll-off at the upper limit of 10 meters is normal I believe. Of course
the difference between 100 watts and 112 watts in what another Ham will hear
on the air is completely insignificant, but it demonstrates that the KPA100
will meet the 100 watt transmit specification across the HF bands.

Ron AC7AC



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RE: KPA power out

Ron D'Eau Claire-2
Correction!

Don, W3FPR, kindly brought to my attention that in my comments below I
mistakenly referred to the KPA100 output filters as bandpass filters. They
are actually low-pass filters.

The problem seems to be in the KPA100's low-pass output filters, NOT in the
K2's bandpass output filters.

Ron AC7AC

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Fred KT5X wrote:

Took the KAT-100 out of the chain for the test, using dummy load.  Startled
by the results:

band          K2          KPA-100    KPA-100  
                                   thru ATU     no ATU
160 ------- 10.7 ---------100 --------- 100
  80 ------- 15.0 ---------100 --------- 100
  40 ------- 14.1 ---------  90 ---------   90
  30 ------- 14.2 ---------  80 ---------   80
  20 ------- 14.5 ---------  50 ---------   50
  17 ------- 14.4 ---------  60 ---------   60
  15 ------- 14.5 ---------  60 ---------   60
  12 ------- 14.1 ---------100 ---------   40
  10 ------- 14.7 ---------100 ---------   25

Dunno what to make of it.

--------------------------------------

Something isn't right in both the KPA100 and ATU from the looks of it, Fred!


I can't speak to the ATU issue of poor efficiency on 10/12 meters since I
don't have a KAT100. The droop on 30-15 meters from the KPA100 suggests an
issue with the bandpass filters. The KPA100 typically exceeds 100 watts
output quite easily. The fact that yours doesn't suggests low supply voltage
or a measurement error that is showing a slightly low output across the
board.

Suggest you look very closely at your bandpass filter components for the low
bands. The KPA100 manual also has a procedure for checking the bandpass
filters using an antenna analyzer, if you have access to one.

Just for the "record", here's what my K2/100 delivers at full power into a
dummy load:

160: 112 watts

 80: 108 watts

 60: 110 watts (legal limit on this band is 50 watts erp, of course)

 40: 112 watts

 30: 107 watts
 
 20: 105 watts

 18: 111 watts

 15: 106 watts

 12: 104 watts

 10: 106 watts at 28 MHz, 46 watts at 29.5 MHz

That roll-off at the upper limit of 10 meters is normal I believe. Of course
the difference between 100 watts and 112 watts in what another Ham will hear
on the air is completely insignificant, but it demonstrates that the KPA100
will meet the 100 watt transmit specification across the HF bands.

Ron AC7AC



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