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Ed Gilliland

KPA1500 Received

On 4/4/2018 09:47, [hidden email] wrote:

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> Ordered August 24, 2017, paid in full
> Received March 30, 2018
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> > 1. Macbook Pro, K3, FT 8 audio quits (Craig Taylor)
> > 2. Re: March Madness (Paul Van Dyke)
> > 3. Any KPA1500 received that were ordered after 1st day?
> > (Thomas Schaefer)
> > 4. K3 audio line in/out cables (N2TK, Tony)
> > 5. Re: Macbook Pro, K3, FT 8 audio quits (James Bennett)
> > 6. Re: Any KPA1500 received that were ordered after 1st day? (WA8WV)
> > 7. Re: Macbook Pro, K3, FT 8 audio quits (Don Wilhelm)
> > 8. Re: Macbook Pro, K3, FT 8 audio quits (John Stengrevics)
> > 9. Re: March Madness (Don Wilhelm)
> > 10. Re: Macbook Pro, K3, FT 8 audio quits (John Stengrevics)
> > 11. Re: K3 audio line in/out cables (Don Wilhelm)
> > 12. KPA500 Fault Question (Robert Jackson)
> > 13. Re: KPA500 Fault Question (Don Wilhelm)
> > 14. Re: K3 audio line in/out cables (N2TK, Tony)
> > 15. Re: Any KPA1500 received that were ordered after 1st day?
> > (Mark E. Musick)
> > 16. Re: Any KPA1500 received ? (Ralph Parker)
> > 17. Re: Any KPA1500 received that were ordered after 1st day?
> > (Michael Walker)
> > 18. Re: Any KPA1500 received that were ordered after 1st day?
> > (iain macdonnell - N6ML)
> > 19. Re: Any KPA1500 received ? ([hidden email])
> > 20. Re: K3 audio line in/out cables (Nr4c)
> > 21. Re: Any KPA1500 received that were ordered after 1st day?
> > ([hidden email])
> > 22. Re: Any KPA1500 received that were ordered after 1st day?
> > (Torrey Mitchell)
> > 23. Elecraft k3S and K3/0 Mini with remote rig (Ron Gould)
> > 24. Re: Any KPA1500 received that were ordered after 1st day?
> > (Thomas Schaefer)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 10:53:33 -0500
> > From: Craig Taylor <[hidden email]>
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: [Elecraft] Macbook Pro, K3, FT 8 audio quits
> > Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > I am running a MacBook Pro with my K3. In WSJT-X, the audio will work fine for awhile. The audio switches back to the internal IO in the computer. I have to restart the program to make it work again. I have the upgraded KIO3B installed. What am I doing wrong?? W9OD
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 12:04:13 -0400
> > From: Paul Van Dyke <[hidden email]>
> > To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] March Madness
> > Message-ID:
> > <CAEPKcUkkt5pFWn=zRkf9rgxMJMgnM=[hidden email]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > They may still be Mad ...
> >
> >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 11:25 PM, John_N1JM <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Elecraft site still shows March Madness sale. Probably not current?
> >>>
> >>> 73, John N1JM
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 12:07:42 -0400
> > From: Thomas Schaefer <[hidden email]>
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: [Elecraft] Any KPA1500 received that were ordered after 1st
> > day?
> > Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > I wonder if a better way to track how the KPA1500s are shipping (versus shipping status page) is that when someone on this list reports receiving one, can you tell us the day you ordered it? I saw a report of serial number 56 which I assume is still a day one order. It would help those of us that have ordered after the first day to see how the orders are progressing.
> >
> > If anyone has received a KPA1500 ordered after day one, can you let me know please? I ordered mine on 10/16 (paid in full but still in the same queue). I?m coming to an unfortunate realization that I will most likely see this in time for Winter contest season :)
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tom NY4I
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 12:20:02 -0400
> > From: "N2TK, Tony" <[hidden email]>
> > To: <[hidden email]>
> > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 audio line in/out cables
> > Message-ID: <016601d3cb67$9eb505d0$dc1f1170$@verizon.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > I have upgraded both of my K3's to make them as close to a K3S as best I
> > can. Presently cleaning up the rats nest of cables. I am using USB.
> >
> > I no longer use the Line IN and OUT jacks. Presently only using FSK. I plan
> > on adding FT8 shortly. With the on board CODECs is there any reason I still
> > need the LINE cables? Want to check to makes sure I am not missing
> > something.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > N2TK, Tony
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2018 09:28:55 -0700
> > From: James Bennett <[hidden email]>
> > To: Craig Taylor <[hidden email]>
> > Cc: Elecraft Reflector Reflector <[hidden email]>
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Macbook Pro, K3, FT 8 audio quits
> > Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > Craig,
> >
> > You are doing nothing wrong. Many folks have had this issue with Macs, including me. One way is to use a USB?>Thunderbolt adapter; it appears that several years ago Apple changed something in the way USB2 is handled in the OS and the result is audio occasionally getting sent to the internet speakers instead of the USB Audio CODEC. That adapter thing is how I resolved it on my MacBook Pro. Another way, and the one I use on my iMac that does not have a Thunderbolt port, is to bring up the MIDI application and set the USB Audio CODEC input and output to 44100 Hz instead of the recommended 48000 Hz. That has cured it for me and many others. You could also try that on your MacBook instead of using an adapter - up to you.I like the adapter method, as it frees up my USB port for other ?stuff?.
> >
> > 73, Jim / W6JHB
> >
> >> On Apr 3, 2018, at 8:53 AM, Craig Taylor <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> I am running a MacBook Pro with my K3. In WSJT-X, the audio will work fine for awhile. The audio switches back to the internal IO in the computer. I have to restart the program to make it work again. I have the upgraded KIO3B installed. What am I doing wrong?? W9OD
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> > ------------------------------
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> > Message: 6
> > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 12:43:16 -0400
> > From: WA8WV <[hidden email]>
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Any KPA1500 received that were ordered after
> > 1st day?
> > Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > Ordered last week and was told end of May or first of June. Hang in there
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > DX,
> > Dave WA8WV
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thomas Schaefer <[hidden email]>
> > To: elecraft <[hidden email]>
> > Sent: Tue, Apr 3, 2018 12:10 pm
> > Subject: [Elecraft] Any KPA1500 received that were ordered after 1st day?
> >
> > I wonder if a better way to track how the KPA1500s are shipping (versus shipping status page) is that when someone on this list reports receiving one, can you tell us the day you ordered it? I saw a report of serial number 56 which I assume is still a day one order. It would help those of us that have ordered after the first day to see how the orders are progressing.If anyone has received a KPA1500 ordered after day one, can you let me know please? I ordered mine on 10/16 (paid in full but still in the same queue). I?m coming to an unfortunate realization that I will most likely see this in time for Winter contest season :)Thanks,Tom NY4I______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:[hidden email] list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered

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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 12:16:50 -0400
> > From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]>
> > To: Craig Taylor <[hidden email]>, [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Macbook Pro, K3, FT 8 audio quits
> > Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> >
> > Look at your computer for the answer.
> > There have been several reports of "strange things happening" with
> > WSJT-X from MAC users lately. I can't say whether the problem is the
> > MAC OS or the WSJT-X software's interaction with the OS.
> >
> > Windows users do not seem to have similar problems.
> >
> > Maybe the MAC is like my new car, its computer thinks it is smarter than
> > I am.
> >
> > 73,
> > Don W3FPR
> >
> > On 4/3/2018 11:53 AM, Craig Taylor wrote:
> >> I am running a MacBook Pro with my K3. In WSJT-X, the audio will work fine for awhile. The audio switches back to the internal IO in the computer. I have to restart the program to make it work again. I have the upgraded KIO3B installed. What am I doing wrong?? W9OD
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 14:27:54 -0400
> > From: John Stengrevics <[hidden email]>
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Cc: [hidden email], Craig Taylor <[hidden email]>
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Macbook Pro, K3, FT 8 audio quits
> > Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> >
> > I can?t add anything specific to resolve your issue. All I can say is that I have been using WSJT-X (currently v1.9.0 - rc2 r8533) with my K3S with absolutely no problems. I simply connect the the 2 with a USB cable and follow the instructions to set it up. Perhaps the problem is related to having a K3 and an external sound card?
> >
> > John
> > WA1EAZ
> >
> >> On Apr 3, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Look at your computer for the answer.
> >> There have been several reports of "strange things happening" with WSJT-X from MAC users lately. I can't say whether the problem is the MAC OS or the WSJT-X software's interaction with the OS.
> >>
> >> Windows users do not seem to have similar problems.
> >>
> >> Maybe the MAC is like my new car, its computer thinks it is smarter than I am.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Don W3FPR
> >>
> >> On 4/3/2018 11:53 AM, Craig Taylor wrote:
> >>> I am running a MacBook Pro with my K3. In WSJT-X, the audio will work fine for awhile. The audio switches back to the internal IO in the computer. I have to restart the program to make it work again. I have the upgraded KIO3B installed. What am I doing wrong?? W9OD
> >> ______________________________________________________________
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 12:12:26 -0400
> > From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]>
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] March Madness
> > Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> >
> > If it is still on the website, the deals will be honored - typical of
> > Elecraft.
> >
> > 73,
> > Don W3FPR
> >
> > On 4/3/2018 12:04 PM, Paul Van Dyke wrote:
> >> They may still be Mad ...
> >>
> >>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 11:25 PM, John_N1JM <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Elecraft site still shows March Madness sale. Probably not current?
> >>>>
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 14:52:18 -0400
> > From: John Stengrevics <[hidden email]>
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Cc: [hidden email], Craig Taylor <[hidden email]>
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Macbook Pro, K3, FT 8 audio quits
> > Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > Sorry, I should have added that I am using a MacBook Air, macOS High Sierra, 10.13.4.
> >
> >> On Apr 3, 2018, at 2:27 PM, John Stengrevics <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I can?t add anything specific to resolve your issue. All I can say is that I have been using WSJT-X (currently v1.9.0 - rc2 r8533) with my K3S with absolutely no problems. I simply connect the the 2 with a USB cable and follow the instructions to set it up. Perhaps the problem is related to having a K3 and an external sound card?
> >>
> >> John
> >> WA1EAZ
> >>
> >>> On Apr 3, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Look at your computer for the answer.
> >>> There have been several reports of "strange things happening" with WSJT-X from MAC users lately. I can't say whether the problem is the MAC OS or the WSJT-X software's interaction with the OS.
> >>>
> >>> Windows users do not seem to have similar problems.
> >>>
> >>> Maybe the MAC is like my new car, its computer thinks it is smarter than I am.
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>> Don W3FPR
> >>>
> >>> On 4/3/2018 11:53 AM, Craig Taylor wrote:
> >>>> I am running a MacBook Pro with my K3. In WSJT-X, the audio will work fine for awhile. The audio switches back to the internal IO in the computer. I have to restart the program to make it work again. I have the upgraded KIO3B installed. What am I doing wrong?? W9OD
> >>> ______________________________________________________________
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 11
> > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 15:09:33 -0400
> > From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]>
> > To: "N2TK, Tony" <[hidden email]>, [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 audio line in/out cables
> > Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> >
> > Tony,
> >
> > You might want to use LINE IN for computer generated voice or something
> > like that.
> > Be aware that if you plug anything into the LINE IN jack, the K3 will
> > turn off the audio output (but not input) of the USB AUDIO CODEC.
> >
> > 73,
> > Don W3FPR
> >
> > On 4/3/2018 12:20 PM, N2TK, Tony wrote:
> >> I have upgraded both of my K3's to make them as close to a K3S as best I
> >> can. Presently cleaning up the rats nest of cables. I am using USB.
> >>
> >> I no longer use the Line IN and OUT jacks. Presently only using FSK. I plan
> >> on adding FT8 shortly. With the on board CODECs is there any reason I still
> >> need the LINE cables? Want to check to makes sure I am not missing
> >> something.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 12
> > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 14:13:00 -0500
> > From: Robert Jackson <[hidden email]>
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Fault Question
> > Message-ID:
> > <CAGzeXFDm=RQe=govGzFujCn=[hidden email]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > My KPA500 was purchased new in July 2017. Use regular 120V outlet.
> > I run the red transformer tap to keep my transmit HV above 60 at full 500
> > output.
> > The yellow tap did not provide sufficient voltage on transmit. Thus the
> > red.
> > I have a whole-house surge protector just outside my main breaker box.
> >
> > Here is my issue in summary. The "60v supply over limit" fault does not
> > "throw"
> > any hard or otherwise noticeable fault on my amp during operation. That
> > fault is
> > supposed to flip the amp from operate to standby I'm told. Separately, that
> > fault, if amp is in standby, is supposed to power off the amp, I'm told. My
> > amp
> > shows this fault in the Utility Fault Table, but I'm not aware of it,
> > unless I look
> > at the Table and see it. It operates as normal, pumping out full power,
> > but never
> > shows externally as a fault on the display, nor exhibits the standby flip
> > or power off, that the written manual and the support guys tell me it
> > should.
> > So I know what it *should* do, but after operating it like this, I know
> > what it
> > *does/does not* do.
> >
> > Thus, I seek any input or advice. Should I keep operating per normal, since
> > this fault doesn't actually change my daily operation as noted. Given
> > that, will I
> > end up harming the supply after passage of time? Should I assume
> > I have a faulty Fault Table in the utility on my Mac? Should I, since it's
> > under
> > one year old, and was factory assembled, return it for inspection under a
> > warranty?
> > I just need thoughts on this from the group. Anybody out there ever
> > experienced this?
> >
> > Robert Jackson
> > W4RJJ
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 13
> > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 16:13:56 -0400
> > From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]>
> > To: Robert Jackson <[hidden email]>, [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Fault Question
> > Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> >
> > Robert,
> >
> > It is possible that the fault is brief enough to register in the fault
> > table, but not turn off the amp.
> >
> > The 65 to 85 volt range is to be determined with the amplifier turned
> > on, but not keyed and certainly not running at 500 watts.
> >
> > Do as the manual indicates and measure you AC Mains voltage and select
> > the tap which corresponds to that voltage (chart on page 6 of the
> > Owner's manual.
> > If you cannot get 500 watts out after doing that, the likely reason is
> > that your line voltage is dropping with load. Have a qualified
> > electrician wire a dedicated outlet in the shack with #12 or larger wire.
> >
> > 73,
> > Don W3FPR
> >
> >
> > On 4/3/2018 3:13 PM, Robert Jackson wrote:
> >> My KPA500 was purchased new in July 2017. Use regular 120V outlet.
> >> I run the red transformer tap to keep my transmit HV above 60 at full 500
> >> output.
> >> The yellow tap did not provide sufficient voltage on transmit. Thus the
> >> red.
> >> I have a whole-house surge protector just outside my main breaker box.
> >>
> >> Here is my issue in summary. The "60v supply over limit" fault does not
> >> "throw"
> >> any hard or otherwise noticeable fault on my amp during operation. That
> >> fault is
> >> supposed to flip the amp from operate to standby I'm told. Separately, that
> >> fault, if amp is in standby, is supposed to power off the amp, I'm told. My
> >> amp
> >> shows this fault in the Utility Fault Table, but I'm not aware of it,
> >> unless I look
> >> at the Table and see it. It operates as normal, pumping out full power,
> >> but never
> >> shows externally as a fault on the display, nor exhibits the standby flip
> >> or power off, that the written manual and the support guys tell me it
> >> should.
> >> So I know what it *should* do, but after operating it like this, I know
> >> what it
> >> *does/does not* do.
> >>
> >> Thus, I seek any input or advice. Should I keep operating per normal, since
> >> this fault doesn't actually change my daily operation as noted. Given
> >> that, will I
> >> end up harming the supply after passage of time? Should I assume
> >> I have a faulty Fault Table in the utility on my Mac? Should I, since it's
> >> under
> >> one year old, and was factory assembled, return it for inspection under a
> >> warranty?
> >> I just need thoughts on this from the group. Anybody out there ever
> >> experienced this?
> >>
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 14
> > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 17:04:37 -0400
> > From: "N2TK, Tony" <[hidden email]>
> > To: <[hidden email]>, <[hidden email]>
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 audio line in/out cables
> > Message-ID: <029b01d3cb8f$60774f30$2165ed90$@verizon.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Tnx Don for the info.
> > N2tK, Tony
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:[hidden email]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 3:10 PM
> > To: N2TK, Tony <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 audio line in/out cables
> >
> > Tony,
> >
> > You might want to use LINE IN for computer generated voice or something like that.
> > Be aware that if you plug anything into the LINE IN jack, the K3 will turn off the audio output (but not input) of the USB AUDIO CODEC.
> >
> > 73,
> > Don W3FPR
> >
> > On 4/3/2018 12:20 PM, N2TK, Tony wrote:
> >> I have upgraded both of my K3's to make them as close to a K3S as best
> >> I can. Presently cleaning up the rats nest of cables. I am using USB.
> >>
> >> I no longer use the Line IN and OUT jacks. Presently only using FSK.
> >> I plan on adding FT8 shortly. With the on board CODECs is there any
> >> reason I still need the LINE cables? Want to check to makes sure I am
> >> not missing something.
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 15
> > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 00:17:28 -0000
> > From: "Mark E. Musick" <[hidden email]>
> > To: "'Thomas Schaefer'" <[hidden email]>,
> > <[hidden email]>
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Any KPA1500 received that were ordered after
> > 1st day?
> > Message-ID: <001101d3cbaa$52296600$f67c3200$@sbcglobal.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Hi Tom,
> > I ordered mine in the 20th or 21st hour of day one and I paid in full. I have not received an e-mail asking for confirmation of the shipping address. I am patiently waiting.
> > Just hang in there.
> >
> > 73,
> > Mark, WB9CIF
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Thomas Schaefer
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 4:08 PM
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: [Elecraft] Any KPA1500 received that were ordered after 1st day?
> >
> > I wonder if a better way to track how the KPA1500s are shipping (versus shipping status page) is that when someone on this list reports receiving one, can you tell us the day you ordered it? I saw a report of serial number 56 which I assume is still a day one order. It would help those of us that have ordered after the first day to see how the orders are progressing.
> >
> > If anyone has received a KPA1500 ordered after day one, can you let me know please? I ordered mine on 10/16 (paid in full but still in the same queue). I?m coming to an unfortunate realization that I will most likely see this in time for Winter contest season :)
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tom NY4I
> > ______________________________________________________________
> > Elecraft mailing list
> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
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> > Message: 16
> > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 01:11:23 +0000
> > From: Ralph Parker <[hidden email]>
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Any KPA1500 received ?
> > Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> >
> > >I wonder if a better way to track how the KPA1500s are shipping...
> > > when someone on this list reports receiving one,can you tell us the
> > day you ordered it?...
> >
> > Gee whiz, guys, relax. Enjoy the anticipation. Xmas will come on Dec.
> > 25th, not a day before.
> > i haven't even ordered mine yet, and you're making me nervous already!
> >
> > VE7XF
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 17
> > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 21:31:20 -0400
> > From: Michael Walker <[hidden email]>
> > To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Any KPA1500 received that were ordered after
> > 1st day?
> > Message-ID:
> > <CA+33ts71fX=isF7AD8-C=[hidden email]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > This is too funny.
> >
> > Guys, relax. I'm sure they are working their butts off to get the amps out
> > as quickly as possible and as QA'd as possible. This isn't Apple that can
> > product 8M phones on a weekend. This is a small company with a lot of
> > people doing a lot different jobs as fast as they can.
> >
> > It only takes 1 thing to not happen, like being out of stock on a label and
> > everything is held up.
> >
> > The world won't end and no one will die if you don't get your amp today or
> > tomorrow or next week.
> >
> > You can wait. Be surprised when your tracking label lands in your in box.
> >
> > After all, what do you tell your kids at Christmas? :)
> >
> > Mike va3mw
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 8:17 PM, Mark E. Musick <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Tom,
> >> I ordered mine in the 20th or 21st hour of day one and I paid in full. I
> >> have not received an e-mail asking for confirmation of the shipping
> >> address. I am patiently waiting.
> >> Just hang in there.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Mark, WB9CIF
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
> >> On Behalf Of Thomas Schaefer
> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 4:08 PM
> >> To: [hidden email]
> >> Subject: [Elecraft] Any KPA1500 received that were ordered after 1st day?
> >>
> >> I wonder if a better way to track how the KPA1500s are shipping (versus
> >> shipping status page) is that when someone on this list reports receiving
> >> one, can you tell us the day you ordered it? I saw a report of serial
> >> number 56 which I assume is still a day one order. It would help those of
> >> us that have ordered after the first day to see how the orders are
> >> progressing.
> >>
> >> If anyone has received a KPA1500 ordered after day one, can you let me
> >> know please? I ordered mine on 10/16 (paid in full but still in the same
> >> queue). I?m coming to an unfortunate realization that I will most likely
> >> see this in time for Winter contest season :)
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Tom NY4I
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> > Message: 18
> > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 19:03:06 -0700
> > From: iain macdonnell - N6ML <[hidden email]>
> > To: Michael Walker <[hidden email]>
> > Cc: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Any KPA1500 received that were ordered after
> > 1st day?
> > Message-ID:
> > <CACDL7B1J3Zhk=[hidden email]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > I'm glad that you're amused, Mike. It's less funny to those of us who
> > "loaned" Elecraft $6k at the end of August, based on projection of
> > delivery in October (i.e. 5-8 weeks). Here we are, 7 *months* later,
> > and it still doesn't even seem imminent. $6k is a "chunk of change"
> > (at least to most). They may not be Apple, but that argument is
> > getting milked a bit, IMO - it's not like 2 guys operating out of a
> > garage anymore either. There's a lot of history of unmet projections
> > on new product delivery, but the high-value prepayment aspect of this
> > one makes it more difficult to be patient with....
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > ~iain / N6ML
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 6:31 PM, Michael Walker <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >> This is too funny.
> >>
> >> Guys, relax. I'm sure they are working their butts off to get the amps out
> >> as quickly as possible and as QA'd as possible. This isn't Apple that can
> >> product 8M phones on a weekend. This is a small company with a lot of
> >> people doing a lot different jobs as fast as they can.
> >>
> >> It only takes 1 thing to not happen, like being out of stock on a label and
> >> everything is held up.
> >>
> >> The world won't end and no one will die if you don't get your amp today or
> >> tomorrow or next week.
> >>
> >> You can wait. Be surprised when your tracking label lands in your in box.
> >>
> >> After all, what do you tell your kids at Christmas? :)
> >>
> >> Mike va3mw
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 8:17 PM, Mark E. Musick <[hidden email]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Tom,
> >>> I ordered mine in the 20th or 21st hour of day one and I paid in full. I
> >>> have not received an e-mail asking for confirmation of the shipping
> >>> address. I am patiently waiting.
> >>> Just hang in there.
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>> Mark, WB9CIF
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
> >>> On Behalf Of Thomas Schaefer
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 4:08 PM
> >>> To: [hidden email]
> >>> Subject: [Elecraft] Any KPA1500 received that were ordered after 1st day?
> >>>
> >>> I wonder if a better way to track how the KPA1500s are shipping (versus
> >>> shipping status page) is that when someone on this list reports receiving
> >>> one, can you tell us the day you ordered it? I saw a report of serial
> >>> number 56 which I assume is still a day one order. It would help those of
> >>> us that have ordered after the first day to see how the orders are
> >>> progressing.
> >>>
> >>> If anyone has received a KPA1500 ordered after day one, can you let me
> >>> know please? I ordered mine on 10/16 (paid in full but still in the same
> >>> queue). I?m coming to an unfortunate realization that I will most likely
> >>> see this in time for Winter contest season :)
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Tom NY4I
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> > Message: 19
> > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 02:16:58 +0000 (UTC)
> > From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> > To: [hidden email], Ralph Parker <[hidden email]>
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Any KPA1500 received ?
> > Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >
> >>> Gee whiz, guys, relax. Enjoy the anticipation. <<
> > Save your breath! They did it with the advent of the KX3, KX2, KPod, and just about every piece of equipment that Elecraft ever intrduced.Just WAIT! Soon there will be someone who will want to know how many Amps Elecraft has sold, so they can start calculating how much "Money" Elecraft has made! It'll get Crazy around here, nobody play radio anymore!
> > ((((73)))) Milverton / W9MMS.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, April 3, 2018, 8:13:46 PM CDT, Ralph Parker <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > >I wonder if a better way to track how the KPA1500s are shipping...
> > > when someone on this list reports receiving one,can you tell us the
> > day you ordered it?...
> >
> > Gee whiz, guys, relax. Enjoy the anticipation. Xmas will come on Dec.
> > 25th, not a day before.
> > i haven't even ordered mine yet, and you're making me nervous already!
> >
> > VE7XF
> >
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> > Message: 20
> > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 22:35:16 -0400
> > From: Nr4c <[hidden email]>
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Cc: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 audio line in/out cables
> > Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > No need for LINE cables if you have the updated USB KIO3 system.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > ...nr4c. bill
> >
> >
> >> On Apr 3, 2018, at 3:09 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Tony,
> >>
> >> You might want to use LINE IN for computer generated voice or something like that.
> >> Be aware that if you plug anything into the LINE IN jack, the K3 will turn off the audio output (but not input) of the USB AUDIO CODEC.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Don W3FPR
> >>
> >>> On 4/3/2018 12:20 PM, N2TK, Tony wrote:
> >>> I have upgraded both of my K3's to make them as close to a K3S as best I
> >>> can. Presently cleaning up the rats nest of cables. I am using USB.
> >>> I no longer use the Line IN and OUT jacks. Presently only using FSK. I plan
> >>> on adding FT8 shortly. With the on board CODECs is there any reason I still
> >>> need the LINE cables? Want to check to makes sure I am not missing
> >>> something.
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> > Message: 21
> > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 02:37:03 +0000 (UTC)
> > From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> > To: Michael Walker <[hidden email]>, iain macdonnell - N6ML
> > <[hidden email]>
> > Cc: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Any KPA1500 received that were ordered after
> > 1st day?
> > Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >
> > >>> There's a lot of history of unmet projections
> > on new product delivery, but the high-value prepayment aspect of this
> > one makes it more difficult to be patient with.... <<<
> > AND! Can you even begin to imagine the amount of "Bitching" that would take place if this Amp is besieged with poor quality control after delivery!!!!!!!!!??
> > HONESTLY! These are the times that I wish Elecraft was like the BIG 3!
> > Just my $0.02 worth.((((73)))) Milverton / W9MMS.
> >
> > On Tuesday, April 3, 2018, 9:06:24 PM CDT, iain macdonnell - N6ML <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > I'm glad that you're amused, Mike. It's less funny to those of us who
> > "loaned" Elecraft $6k at the end of August, based on projection of
> > delivery in October (i.e. 5-8 weeks). Here we are, 7 *months* later,
> > and it still doesn't even seem imminent. $6k is a "chunk of change"
> > (at least to most). They may not be Apple, but that argument is
> > getting milked a bit, IMO - it's not like 2 guys operating out of a
> > garage anymore either. There's a lot of history of unmet projections
> > on new product delivery, but the high-value prepayment aspect of this
> > one makes it more difficult to be patient with....
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > ? ? ~iain / N6ML
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 6:31 PM, Michael Walker <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >> This is too funny.
> >>
> >> Guys, relax.? I'm sure they are working their butts off to get the amps out
> >> as quickly as possible and as QA'd as possible.? This isn't Apple that can
> >> product 8M phones on a weekend.? This is a small company with a lot of
> >> people doing a lot different jobs as fast as they can.
> >>
> >> It only takes 1 thing to not happen, like being out of stock on a label and
> >> everything is held up.
> >>
> >> The world won't end and no one will die if you don't get your amp today or
> >> tomorrow or next week.
> >>
> >> You can wait.? Be surprised when your tracking label lands in your in box.
> >>
> >> After all, what do you tell your kids at Christmas?? :)
> >>
> >> Mike va3mw
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 8:17 PM, Mark E. Musick <[hidden email]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Tom,
> >>> I ordered mine in the 20th or 21st hour of day one and I paid in full. I
> >>> have not received an e-mail asking for confirmation of the shipping
> >>> address. I am patiently waiting.
> >>> Just hang in there.
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>> Mark, WB9CIF
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
> >>> On Behalf Of Thomas Schaefer
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 4:08 PM
> >>> To: [hidden email]
> >>> Subject: [Elecraft] Any KPA1500 received that were ordered after 1st day?
> >>>
> >>> I wonder if a better way to track how the KPA1500s are shipping (versus
> >>> shipping status page) is that when someone on this list reports receiving
> >>> one, can you tell us the day you ordered it? I saw a report of serial
> >>> number 56 which I assume is still a day one order. It would help those of
> >>> us that have ordered after the first day to see how the orders are
> >>> progressing.
> >>>
> >>> If anyone has received a KPA1500 ordered after day one, can you let me
> >>> know please? I ordered mine on 10/16 (paid in full but still in the same
> >>> queue). I?m coming to an unfortunate realization that I will most likely
> >>> see this in time for Winter contest season :)
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Tom NY4I
> >>> ______________________________________________________________
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> > Message: 22
> > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 21:58:06 -0500
> > From: Torrey Mitchell <[hidden email]>
> > To: Thomas Schaefer <[hidden email]>
> > Cc: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Any KPA1500 received that were ordered after
> > 1st day?
> > Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > My #52 arrived here in Iowa one week ago. My paid order was placed less than 15 minutes after the web order site was activated before 7pm Pacific time on 8/24.
> >
> > 73 Torrey N9PY
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Apr 3, 2018, at 11:07, Thomas Schaefer <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> I wonder if a better way to track how the KPA1500s are shipping (versus shipping status page) is that when someone on this list reports receiving one, can you tell us the day you ordered it? I saw a report of serial number 56 which I assume is still a day one order. It would help those of us that have ordered after the first day to see how the orders are progressing.
> >>
> >> If anyone has received a KPA1500 ordered after day one, can you let me know please? I ordered mine on 10/16 (paid in full but still in the same queue). I?m coming to an unfortunate realization that I will most likely see this in time for Winter contest season :)
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Tom NY4I
> >> ______________________________________________________________
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> > Message: 23
> > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 06:05:55 -0700
> > From: Ron Gould <[hidden email]>
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft k3S and K3/0 Mini with remote rig
> > Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > I have a pair of remote rigs which I use to remotely control a Elecraft K3S via Elecraft K3/0 mini which I purchased from Elecraft. Everything has been working fine until I had to reset my router, a Apple Time Capsule. Now the remote rig just beeps at me and does not turn K3S on. Documentation is difficult to find on exactly how to configure a Time Capsule to work with the remote rigs.
> >
> > I contacted Elecraft technical support but they referred me to manuals on remote rig and their K3 mini manual but I find little in the way of Mac support with a Apple router. Elecraft says this is beyond their networking knowledge. I believe I have set the port forwarding up correctly but since documentation is limited, I am not sure I have done so correctly or have missed something. Hopefully someone out there has theirs up and running with Apple hardware and can advise or Elecraft can help better than they have. 73?s
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 24
> > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 09:15:33 -0400
> > From: Thomas Schaefer <[hidden email]>
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Any KPA1500 received that were ordered after
> > 1st day?
> > Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > Thanks for the update. That is exactly what I needed.
> >
> > As the point of my message seems to have been lost on many responding, allow me to clarify. I realize no amount of discussing where the amp is will get it here any faster. That was not the point. I simply suggested it was a question I had every time a new ?Amp received? message was posted. It was to satisfy my curiosity which several hams are doing.
> >
> > I also had a reason to ask in that I help maintain a contest station and a remote station. The amp factors into our plans so I was trying to get a sense of projects coming up towards the Fall and Winter contest season. If we are already ploughing through the orders from the second week, that tells me something different for station planning than where we are now about how many minutes into the first day. Amp #52 was ordered 15 minutes after. Amp #56 was ordered 43 minutes after the ordering started. And yes, I know that is not necessarily linear as ordered came in from multiple channels.
> >
> > Lastly, I would rather wait for a great product and will wait as long as that takes because I trust Elecraft. The $6000 up front is not an issue as what else would it be doing except drawing ridiculous interest rates in a bank? Of course, if someone put the amp on a credit card and has been financing the purchase at 18%, then I could understand the consternation?but let?s hope no one that put a pre-purchase on a $6000 amp has to finance it long-term on a credit card :)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Tom NY4I
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Apr 3, 2018, at 10:58 PM, Torrey Mitchell <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> My #52 arrived here in Iowa one week ago. My paid order was placed less than 15 minutes after the web order site was activated before 7pm Pacific time on 8/24.
> >>
> >> 73 Torrey N9PY
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Apr 3, 2018, at 11:07, Thomas Schaefer <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I wonder if a better way to track how the KPA1500s are shipping (versus shipping status page) is that when someone on this list reports receiving one, can you tell us the day you ordered it? I saw a report of serial number 56 which I assume is still a day one order. It would help those of us that have ordered after the first day to see how the orders are progressing.
> >>>
> >>> If anyone has received a KPA1500 ordered after day one, can you let me know please? I ordered mine on 10/16 (paid in full but still in the same queue). I?m coming to an unfortunate realization that I will most likely see this in time for Winter contest season :)
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Tom NY4I
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