KREF3 External Reference card

[Mel]

Love the thought of the ext 10 Mhz input.  As I don't do portable with the K3,
and I have the GPS 10 MHz available, why not???  Thanks Wayne.  Merry Christmas.

Mel, K6KBE





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From: Igor Kosvin <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Fri, December 24, 2010 2:30:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] KREF3 External Reference Option

Perhaps there can be option to tell the MCU what frequency reference is used
to accommodate users with 5MHz or 1MHz references, not only 10MHz. I assume
there will be possibility to calibrate the internal oscillator to the good
reference and then disconnect the reference till next time (say once a year
or so). I hope there is no need to have the reference connected forever,
right?

73
Igor N1YX

-------- Original Message  from Wayne N6KR dated 14 June 2010 --------

There appears to be more demand for this than we thought, so we're  
looking into it again.

Note that our planned external reference implementation would not  
require an exact 49.380000-MHz reference oscillator signal. It also  
doesn't require a pin-1 control voltage input on the TCXO module  
itself, as suggested earlier. It should work with any existing K3  
TCXO, either +/- 5 or +/- 1 PPM.

If you're interested, here are the details:

A new REF-lock module would be designed that plugs into the small 8-
pin connector near the top of the KREF3 PCB. The user's 10-MHz  
reference signal would be routed from the rear panel to the TMP  
connector on the KRE3 (this connector faces forward, into the DSP/
front panel area).

A microcontroller on the REF-lock module would be clocked by the 10-
MHz reference. If the signal were present, the microcontroller would  
continuously measure (and average) the frequency of the 49.38 MHz  
oscillator, obtaining a value to the nearest 1 Hz. Hysteresis would be  
applied to prevent "hunting," so the actual accuracy spec would  
probably be +/- 2 Hz. This translates to about +/- 1 Hz in operating  
frequency on 20 m.

Approximately once per second, the module would report the actual  
reference frequency to the K3's main MCU via a slow digital data line  
(labeled "100HZ" on the RF and KREF3 schematics). The main MCU would  
use this to calibrate the REF CAL value normally entered by the user.  
There would be no noticeable impact on performance.

If the 10 MHz external signal were not present, the user's normal REF  
CAL value would be used.

Let me know if you have thoughts on this implementation.

73,
Wayne
N6KR
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[Don Wilhelm-4]

  Eugene,

An external reference for the K2 would achieve nothing dynamically.

The K2 stores its frequency information in EEPROM and retrieves that
info during operation.
The only time an accurate frequency reference would be a benefit to the
K2 is during the dial calibration steps of adjusting the 4 MHz reference
oscillator and then running CAL PLL and CAL FIL afterward.

See the K2 Dial Calibration article on my website www.w3fpr.com for more
information.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all on the Elecraft reflector.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/24/2010 5:12 PM, Eugene Balinski wrote:
> All,
>
>     Any chance of an external reference input for the K2?
>
> 73
> K1NR
> k2 6xxx
>
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