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With today's additions of the KXB30 and the KXAT1, my KX1 is now complete and, as an italian saying goes, "full like an egg". Bottom line is, it works. Long story, I had a few scary moments today, especially with the 30m option. My last misc notes&questions wrt the KX1 follow: KXB30) -I had a very close call with being too short on the insulated wires from D and 5. Manual instructs builder to trim leads right after soldering and I had to pull the pc board quite energetically to get the trimmers to line up with the holes properly enough to be useful. Methinks perhaps waiting until the other leads have been threaded before trimming those two wires would be a good idea 8-) -on a related note, why should some of the wires be bare? This is potentially dangerous and adds some complication to building. Moreover, someone has clearly built at least one kit with unstripped hookup wire, see here: http://www.edcjp.jp/kit/elecraft/KX1-Photos/KXB30/ -should the bumpers actually touch the front cover or are they used just in case? I did my best to use little solder and trim leads short, but the bumpers do not really lie flat and I'm a little worried they might come off someday. -not really KXB30-related, but it came up during reassembly: I had a nice short between Q6's collector and ground, which only existed when the front cover was reattached. This happened because screw "ate" part of the thermal pad and exposed the tiniest possible part of the hole border... not tiny enough, unfortunately ;-( Solved by rearranging the pad, only casualties were a couple of blown fuses. KXAT1) -I soldered the leads for C1-C3 and C10 on top instead of bottom. I prefer soldering on opposite side and there was, in my opinion, plenty of clearance between the leads and the relays. -no mention of trimming leads on blue but I guess they should be clipped short back and sides 8-) Ok, off to play with the little baby now 8-) B73, Andrea. -- Homepage: http://andrea.borgia.bo.it / Amateur radio: IZ4FHT A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? -should the bumpers actually touch the front cover or are they used just in case? I did my best to use little solder and trim leads short, but the bumpers do not really lie flat and I'm a little worried they might come off someday. Andrea, I cut the rubber bumpers into halves so they could lay flat against the board in between solder pads. I just made sure the rubber pads stood taller than the solder connections. I, too, didn't think they would stick too long either... VB72/3rds, John K7FD _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 A: Because people want to rehash dead horses over and over again Q: Why are we bring the top and bottom post debate up again? I believe Eric even said he prefers Top Posting and Top Post, saves time as it were in reading the reply. BTW what did the whole quote of the top post debate have to do with the answer to the fellows question??? 73 - ----------------------------------- John N5BSD www.N5BSD.Com Linux user #286770 Machine # 246511 http://counter.li.org - ------------------------------------ - -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of John_K7FD Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 6:30 PM To: 'Andrea Borgia'; [hidden email] Subject: RE: [Elecraft] KX1 #978, full-throttle! Homepage: http://andrea.borgia.bo.it / Amateur radio: IZ4FHT A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? - -should the bumpers actually touch the front cover or are they used just in case? I did my best to use little solder and trim leads short, but the bumpers do not really lie flat and I'm a little worried they might come off someday. Andrea, I cut the rubber bumpers into halves so they could lay flat against the board in between solder pads. I just made sure the rubber pads stood taller than the solder connections. I, too, didn't think they would stick too long either... VB72/3rds, John K7FD -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.1 iQA/AwUBQga3gT4STIkCKSUlEQLziACgrS0be1y+Qn6OawFC5tXri75i3MkAnA/C WN8jixvJuOoQZI+w9vPX8pu0 =arCb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
OK, I will get my one lash at this dead horse.
Top posting on the reflector please - that is my not so humble opinion. I read most all the postings here, and I can usually tell from the subject line what went before. It makes no sense to me that somebody's version of 'netiquette' should require me to scroll to the bottom of a reply to see what is now being said for each and every reflector post. Besides, all the e-mail clients that I know about put the cursor at the top rather than at the bottom when I click 'reply'. I might change my mind when email clients put the cursor at the end of the text and automatically scroll received messages to the last made entry. 73, Don W3FPR > -----Original Message----- > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > A: Because people want to rehash dead horses over and over again > Q: Why are we bring the top and bottom post debate up again? > > > I believe Eric even said he prefers Top Posting and Top Post, saves > time as it were in reading the reply. > > BTW what did the whole quote of the top post debate have to do with > the answer to the fellows question??? > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Don, WAFER wrote:
It makes no sense to... scroll to the bottom of a reply to see what is now being said for each and every reflector post. -------------------- I agree when the reply includes the whole previous message, or the entire thread! Here on the E'craft reflector Eric has asked that we edit the original post down to the bare essentials we are replying to in order to minimize the bandwidth. ------------------ Don, W3FPR wrote: "...all the e-mail clients that I know about put the cursor at the top rather than at the bottom when I click 'reply'." ------------------- True, which makes bottom-posting more work, but it seemed worthwhile to hold down bandwidth while being crystal clear what issue(s) the reply addresses. Especially when replying to multiple points as I have done here. If list moderator Eric has a preference, I'll be happy to oblige. The last I heard, he was equally happy either way as long as the replies cut out unneeded text. 73, Ron AC7AC _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
>Don, W3FPR wrote: > >"...all the e-mail clients that I know about put the cursor at the top >rather than at the bottom when I click 'reply'." > > > > Without getting into the top vs. bottom posting controversy (!!) Mozilla Thunderbird allows you to select where the cursor goes on a Reply or on a Reply-All - top or bottom of the quoted post. -- 'Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.' -anon _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Top posting is officially OK here. It is by far the fastest way (with fewest scrolling key-strokes) for me to read the high volume of emails I receive daily from the Elecraft list. Bottom posting is a killer for me. (I'm using Mozilla Thunderbird email..) Please, lets kill this thread for now. Address any further comments on this topic to the list owner (me :-) 73, Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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