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AE7AP

KX1 Replacement?

Is there any chance that Elecraft will come up with something to replace the
KX1? I am not aware of anything else on the market that fits this niche.
The closest are probably the various excellent KD1JV rigs. Following are
some things I like about the KX1:

* Autotuner
* Up to 4-bands
* Knobs for tuning, etc. - I really like the filter knob!
* Very Low Power consumption
* Small & lightweight
* Through-hole kit construction

Building the KX1 was a joy & I still get a thrill every time I turn it on.
It is a great rig. Perhaps with a full frequency display (LCD?) & a full 5
(or 10!) watts of power it could be even better.

73,

Rob - AE7AP

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ktalbott

Re: KX1 Replacement?

It's called the KX2.

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-------- Original message --------From: R&B <[hidden email]> Date: 7/13/18 7:44 PM (GMT-05:00) To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] KX1 Replacement?
Is there any chance that Elecraft will come up with something to replace the
KX1? I am not aware of anything else on the market that fits this niche.
The closest are probably the various excellent KD1JV rigs. Following are
some things I like about the KX1:

* Autotuner
* Up to 4-bands
* Knobs for tuning, etc. - I really like the filter knob!
* Very Low Power consumption
* Small & lightweight
* Through-hole kit construction

Building the KX1 was a joy & I still get a thrill every time I turn it on.
It is a great rig. Perhaps with a full frequency display (LCD?) & a full 5
(or 10!) watts of power it could be even better.

73,

Rob - AE7AP

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Re: KX1 Replacement?

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Short answer: KX2.

* Autotuner.

Yes, with a much wider matching range than the KX1

* Up to 4 bands

8 bands.
And all modes.

* Knobs for tuning, etc. - I really like the filter knob!

Yes. And 3x as many controls/operating features.

* Very Low Power consumption

Yes. Just 150 mA or so, higher than a KX1 but far lower than any other full-featured radio. Much greater internal battery life. Up to 12 watts.

* Small & lightweight

Nearly the same size as the KX1 by volume. A bit heavier.

* Through-hole kit construction

No :)

The KX2 also has full DSP with all the trimmings, and a large LCD (same as we use on the K3S).

73,
Wayne
N6KR

>
> Building the KX1 was a joy & I still get a thrill every time I turn it on.
> It is a great rig. Perhaps with a full frequency display (LCD?) & a full 5
> (or 10!) watts of power it could be even better.
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Rob - AE7AP
>
>
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AE7AP

Re: KX1 Replacement?

Wayne:
I thought I would ask. I intend to have a KX2 someday - it is one super
fine rig (I already have a KX1, KX3 & K3s). I am somewhat nostalgic about
my KX1. It was fun to build & still measures up well (at least for me)
against everything out there. I took the KX1 on a 7-day backpacking/SOTA
trip last week & truly enjoyed it. It may still be the rig of choice for me
on longer trips (even after I get my KX2) - mainly due to the smaller size &
lower Rx current draw. It makes for a very small package - even in a
waterproof case. Thank you for all of the fine radios!

73,
Rob - AE7AP

-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 6:04 PM
To: R&B <[hidden email]>
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Replacement?

Short answer: KX2.

* Autotuner.

Yes, with a much wider matching range than the KX1

* Up to 4 bands

8 bands.
And all modes.

* Knobs for tuning, etc. - I really like the filter knob!

Yes. And 3x as many controls/operating features.

* Very Low Power consumption

Yes. Just 150 mA or so, higher than a KX1 but far lower than any other
full-featured radio. Much greater internal battery life. Up to 12 watts.

* Small & lightweight

Nearly the same size as the KX1 by volume. A bit heavier.

* Through-hole kit construction

No :)

The KX2 also has full DSP with all the trimmings, and a large LCD (same as
we use on the K3S).

73,
Wayne
N6KR

>
> Building the KX1 was a joy & I still get a thrill every time I turn it on.
> It is a great rig. Perhaps with a full frequency display (LCD?) & a
> full 5 (or 10!) watts of power it could be even better.
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Rob - AE7AP
>
>
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Re: KX1 Replacement?

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I <3 my KX2 ^_^

~Joan KX2CW
CN87uo

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> On Jul 13, 2018, at 17:28, R&B <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Wayne:
> I thought I would ask. I intend to have a KX2 someday - it is one super
> fine rig (I already have a KX1, KX3 & K3s). I am somewhat nostalgic about
> my KX1. It was fun to build & still measures up well (at least for me)
> against everything out there. I took the KX1 on a 7-day backpacking/SOTA
> trip last week & truly enjoyed it. It may still be the rig of choice for me
> on longer trips (even after I get my KX2) - mainly due to the smaller size &
> lower Rx current draw. It makes for a very small package - even in a
> waterproof case. Thank you for all of the fine radios!
>
> 73,
> Rob - AE7AP
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 6:04 PM
> To: R&B <[hidden email]>
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Replacement?
>
> Short answer: KX2.
>
> * Autotuner.
>
> Yes, with a much wider matching range than the KX1
>
> * Up to 4 bands
>
> 8 bands.
> And all modes.
>
> * Knobs for tuning, etc. - I really like the filter knob!
>
> Yes. And 3x as many controls/operating features.
>
> * Very Low Power consumption
>
> Yes. Just 150 mA or so, higher than a KX1 but far lower than any other
> full-featured radio. Much greater internal battery life. Up to 12 watts.
>
> * Small & lightweight
>
> Nearly the same size as the KX1 by volume. A bit heavier.
>
> * Through-hole kit construction
>
> No :)
>
> The KX2 also has full DSP with all the trimmings, and a large LCD (same as
> we use on the K3S).
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>>
>> Building the KX1 was a joy & I still get a thrill every time I turn it on.
>> It is a great rig. Perhaps with a full frequency display (LCD?) & a
>> full 5 (or 10!) watts of power it could be even better.
>>
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Rob - AE7AP
>>
>>
>>
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ktalbott

Re: KX1 Replacement?

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I must admit that my K1 is still my favorite. It was my first CW only, QRP rig. I will log more with the KX2, but every contact with the K1 is still thrilling.Ken ke4rg

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-------- Original message --------From: Joan via Elecraft <[hidden email]> Date: 7/13/18 8:43 PM (GMT-05:00) To: R&B <[hidden email]> Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Replacement?
I <3 my KX2 ^_^

~Joan KX2CW
CN87uo

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Shaka, when the walls fell, said Pooh.

> On Jul 13, 2018, at 17:28, R&B <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Wayne:
> I thought I would ask. I intend to have a KX2 someday - it is one super
> fine rig (I already have a KX1, KX3 & K3s). I am somewhat nostalgic about
> my KX1. It was fun to build & still measures up well (at least for me)
> against everything out there. I took the KX1 on a 7-day backpacking/SOTA
> trip last week & truly enjoyed it. It may still be the rig of choice for me
> on longer trips (even after I get my KX2) - mainly due to the smaller size &
> lower Rx current draw. It makes for a very small package - even in a
> waterproof case. Thank you for all of the fine radios!
>
> 73,
> Rob - AE7AP
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 6:04 PM
> To: R&B <[hidden email]>
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Replacement?
>
> Short answer: KX2.
>
> *    Autotuner.
>
> Yes, with a much wider matching range than the KX1
>
> *    Up to 4 bands
>
> 8 bands.
> And all modes.
>
> *    Knobs for tuning, etc. - I really like the filter knob!
>
> Yes. And 3x as many controls/operating features.
>
> *    Very Low Power consumption
>
> Yes. Just 150 mA or so, higher than a KX1 but far lower than any other
> full-featured radio. Much greater internal battery life. Up to 12 watts.
>
> *    Small & lightweight
>
> Nearly the same size as the KX1 by volume. A bit heavier.
>
> *    Through-hole kit construction
>
> No :)
>
> The KX2 also has full DSP with all the trimmings, and a large LCD (same as
> we use on the K3S).
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>>
>> Building the KX1 was a joy & I still get a thrill every time I turn it on.
>> It is a great rig. Perhaps with a full frequency display (LCD?) & a
>> full 5 (or 10!) watts of power it could be even better.
>>
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Rob - AE7AP
>>
>>
>>
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Mike Morrow-3

Re: KX1 Replacement?

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Ken wrote:

> I must admit that my K1 is still my favorite. It was my first CW
> only, QRP rig. I will log more with the KX2, but every contact
> with the K1 is still thrilling.
> Ken ke4rg

All things considered, the K1 is still my favorite rig in 50 years a ham. I built mine in late 2000 after a six-month wait between order and delivery. It was a deservedly popular rig. I used mine through Solar Cycles 23 and 24. It has been "hors de combat" since a DC power spike from a nearby lightning strike in 2015. I hope someday to return it to service.

My KX2 is from a different realm of technology and function. I am amazed by its size and capabilities. I never go on a trip without it.

There is one area where the KX2 is notably deficient, compared to the K1. That's its case color. and the problem has nothing to do with aesthetics.

Black paint causes a rapid rise in temperature after only a few minutes exposure to direct sunlight...even when the KX2 is turned off! Black is a poor choice for a radio that is likely to see frequent outdoor use under temperate fair weather conditions.

The case color appears chosen for style...not service. The traditional light "Elecraft" gray case color would have produced much less temperature rise in direct sunlight. White or light tan would be even better.

Mike / KK5F
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IK4EWX

Re: KX1 Replacement? YES!

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Wayne, I own the KX1 and I have also the KX2 of my late friend IK4BDZ.
(I have also K3S+P3).
The KX2 is a wonderful qrp rig, ultra charged with great options.
But I love my old KX1, that I build enjoing building it, that worked
immediately at first try, that have a wonderful rx with wonderful PBT, with
wonderful QSK and a great auto tuner and a great keyer.
I used it a lot 4 years ago when had a problem with my back and was confined
to bed for 15 days.
With internal battery discharged and 1 watt out connected with rg58 to my
shack to the beam I worked great qso with W6 and W7 from Italy.
It is even for today standards a little wonder, at less than half the price
of a KX2.
Are you sure that we dont want anymore a 400-500$ qrp rig as the KX1? The
KX1mk1?
73 and thanks for your wonderful work.
Ian IK4EWX

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Nr4c

Re: KX1 Replacement?

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Not so.

Part of the allure of the KX1 was:

A thru hole kit.

CW only.

And, it was a thru hole kit.

JX2 just doesn’t cut the mustard.

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> On Jul 13, 2018, at 7:51 PM, ktalbott <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> It's called the KX2.
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> -------- Original message --------From: R&B <[hidden email]> Date: 7/13/18 7:44 PM (GMT-05:00) To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] KX1 Replacement?
> Is there any chance that Elecraft will come up with something to replace the
> KX1? I am not aware of anything else on the market that fits this niche.
> The closest are probably the various excellent KD1JV rigs. Following are
> some things I like about the KX1:
>
>
>
> * Autotuner
> * Up to 4-bands
> * Knobs for tuning, etc. - I really like the filter knob!
> * Very Low Power consumption
> * Small & lightweight
> * Through-hole kit construction
>
>
>
> Building the KX1 was a joy & I still get a thrill every time I turn it on.
> It is a great rig. Perhaps with a full frequency display (LCD?) & a full 5
> (or 10!) watts of power it could be even better.
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Rob - AE7AP
>
>
>
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Bryan Nehl

Re: KX1 Replacement?

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Rob,
My sentiments are with you. I'd like to see a KX4? that's a return to the roots (sort of) of the KX line.Specs as mentioned above, CW only, same paddle mount as KX2/3, AGC, and good display. I want something like: https://www.ebay.com/itm/DCW-1-3-BAND-DIGITAL-QRP-TRANSCEIVER-HAM-RADIO-with-ATU/182773034445?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649  But, I don't want a knock-off and I want it as a kit.
Configured with the same screen and menus/controls as a KX2/3 (where it makes sense) and adding a KX2/3 becomes that much easier.
72 de Bryan, k0emt

On Friday, July 13, 2018 6:47 PM, R&B <[hidden email]> wrote:

Is there any chance that Elecraft will come up with something to replace the
KX1? I am not aware of anything else on the market that fits this niche.
The closest are probably the various excellent KD1JV rigs. Following are
some things I like about the KX1:

*    Autotuner
*    Up to 4-bands
*    Knobs for tuning, etc. - I really like the filter knob!
*    Very Low Power consumption
*    Small & lightweight
*    Through-hole kit construction

Building the KX1 was a joy & I still get a thrill every time I turn it on.
It is a great rig. Perhaps with a full frequency display (LCD?) & a full 5
(or 10!) watts of power it could be even better.

73,

Rob - AE7AP

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AE7AP

Re: KX1 Replacement?

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Another thing that I like about the KX1 – it hits the sweet spot for size & power consumption for me. I like to protect my rigs in a water-tight container – a little extra rig size adds up quickly once everything is protected. The KX1 fits (barely) in a Pelican 1050 – including key, power cord, earbuds & even some wire for an ad-hoc antenna. The same goes for batteries – the Rx power consumption is about 25% of the KX2 – which translates to a smaller external battery on a long trip. All of that & it was a kick to build!

73,
Rob – AE7AP

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Not so.

Part of the allure of the KX1 was:

A thru hole kit.

CW only.

And, it was a thru hole kit.

JX2 just doesn’t cut the mustard.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill

> On Jul 13, 2018, at 7:51 PM, ktalbott <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> It's called the KX2.
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> -------- Original message --------From: R&B <[hidden email]> Date: 7/13/18 7:44 PM (GMT-05:00) To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] KX1 Replacement?
> Is there any chance that Elecraft will come up with something to
> replace the KX1? I am not aware of anything else on the market that fits this niche.
> The closest are probably the various excellent KD1JV rigs. Following
> are some things I like about the KX1:
>
>
>
> * Autotuner
> * Up to 4-bands
> * Knobs for tuning, etc. - I really like the filter knob!
> * Very Low Power consumption
> * Small & lightweight
> * Through-hole kit construction
>
>
>
> Building the KX1 was a joy & I still get a thrill every time I turn it on.
> It is a great rig. Perhaps with a full frequency display (LCD?) & a
> full 5 (or 10!) watts of power it could be even better.
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Rob - AE7AP
>
>
>
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