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Phil Wheeler-2

Re: KX2 and Sherwood Eng. RX Performance Ranking?

Re "I just hope .. we don't go through an ad
nauseam exchange ... ": You can dream, Dave ;-)

73, Phil W7OX

On 3/10/17 11:05 AM, w7aqk wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I'd be inclined to think the KX2 measurements
> won't knock your socks off. Unlike the KX3,
> which was designed to be a close competitor to
> K3 performance (a K3 in a smaller package), the
> KX2 is more a pared down version of the KX3, and
> some of that paring down probably affected the
> specs somewhat. I don't think this paring down
> process was allowed to noticeably degrade
> performance. I can tell you , though, that it
> is very hard to notice any significant
> difference. It has somewhat different
> architecture, but is an excellent performer.
> This sort of proves to me that being "top tier"
> on Sherwood's stats is nice to talk about, but
> not necessarily critical. That's why so many
> owners of older rigs have a hard time "hearing"
> the benefit of what newer designs purport to offer.
>
> Wayne says he guesses the KX2 might rank
> somewhere in the top 20. If so, that's pretty
> darned good!!! I'd also be inclined to bet that
> Wayne already knows about where it will fall! I
> just hope that, when the numbers do come out, we
> don't go through an ad nauseam exchange about
> some spec being a big problem or a serious
> disappointment. A lot of these differences are
> only determinable in a lab! On the other hand,
> if something does seem to be a real problem, I'd
> also bet it can be fixed!
>
> Dave W7AQK

Doug Turnbull

Re: KX2 and Sherwood Eng. RX Performance Ranking?

Dave and Phil,
All of what you say rings true but there is little reason not to have a
discussion. We can always hit the delete button. The KX2 is very small,
light weight with a big display designed for portable operation so of course
the specifications will suffer some. I hope there is a reason to own the
K3 and or KX3. Let us know what the specifications are in a form where
comparison is easy - thank you Sherwood Engineering.

73 Doug EI2CN

K3, KX3, KX2 I formerly had a KX1 but this is displaced. The KX2 is one
beautiful small radio.

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and Sherwood Eng. RX Performance Ranking?

Re "I just hope .. we don't go through an ad
nauseam exchange ... ": You can dream, Dave ;-)

73, Phil W7OX

On 3/10/17 11:05 AM, w7aqk wrote:

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Re: KX2 and Sherwood Eng. RX Performance Ranking?

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This was my point, its a nice to know but the fun factor of the radio speaks for itself. Its a permanent part of my portable toolkit now.

Chris N6WM, ZF2CT and N6WM/KH6 and anywhere else that pops up on the vacatio...expedition list. ;-)
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Hi All,

I'd be inclined to think the KX2 measurements won't knock your socks off.
Unlike the KX3, which was designed to be a close competitor to K3
performance (a K3 in a smaller package), the KX2 is more a pared down
version of the KX3, and some of that paring down probably affected the specs
somewhat. I don't think this paring down process was allowed to noticeably
degrade performance. I can tell you , though, that it is very hard to
notice any significant difference. It has somewhat different architecture,
but is an excellent performer. This sort of proves to me that being "top
tier" on Sherwood's stats is nice to talk about, but not necessarily
critical. That's why so many owners of older rigs have a hard time
"hearing" the benefit of what newer designs purport to offer.

Wayne says he guesses the KX2 might rank somewhere in the top 20. If so,
that's pretty darned good!!! I'd also be inclined to bet that Wayne already
knows about where it will fall! I just hope that, when the numbers do come
out, we don't go through an ad nauseam exchange about some spec being a big
problem or a serious disappointment. A lot of these differences are only
determinable in a lab! On the other hand, if something does seem to be a
real problem, I'd also bet it can be fixed!

Dave W7AQK

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Phil Hystad-3

Re: KX2 and Sherwood Eng. RX Performance Ranking?

Sometimes when I am doing portable QRP I have both my KX1 and my KX3. And, sometimes I would call CQ on the KX1 and work some stations and other times I would use the KX3.

There are obvious physical differences between the KX3 and the KX1, I do not mean to compare them feature by feature. But, I don’t remember noticing any real difference in performance other than the obvious differences between the two rigs. I could work stations just as well with either. One of the obvious differences is that sometimes I would run more than 5 watts with the KX3 but limited to the lesser power out of the KX1 which I think is usually under 4 watts, maybe under 3.

Of course, if I had to pull out a single CW station from a pile up or crowded band, I would use some of those KX3 features that the KX1 does not have.

My KX2 is on order but I am looking forward to operating with it. I suppose that what I am saying is that in most of my own personal operations with QRP rigs, I don’t rely on a lot of those performance features that separate the top 5-7 from the top 20 of the Sherwood Eng. RX ranking.

PEH

> On Mar 10, 2017, at 11:59 AM, Chris Tate - N6WM <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> This was my point, its a nice to know but the fun factor of the radio speaks for itself. Its a permanent part of my portable toolkit now.
>
> Chris N6WM, ZF2CT and N6WM/KH6 and anywhere else that pops up on the vacatio...expedition list. ;-)
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> From: Elecraft [[hidden email]] on behalf of w7aqk [[hidden email]]
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 11:05 AM
> To: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and Sherwood Eng. RX Performance Ranking?
>
> Hi All,
>
> I'd be inclined to think the KX2 measurements won't knock your socks off.
> Unlike the KX3, which was designed to be a close competitor to K3
> performance (a K3 in a smaller package), the KX2 is more a pared down
> version of the KX3, and some of that paring down probably affected the specs
> somewhat. I don't think this paring down process was allowed to noticeably
> degrade performance. I can tell you , though, that it is very hard to
> notice any significant difference. It has somewhat different architecture,
> but is an excellent performer. This sort of proves to me that being "top
> tier" on Sherwood's stats is nice to talk about, but not necessarily
> critical. That's why so many owners of older rigs have a hard time
> "hearing" the benefit of what newer designs purport to offer.
>
> Wayne says he guesses the KX2 might rank somewhere in the top 20. If so,
> that's pretty darned good!!! I'd also be inclined to bet that Wayne already
> knows about where it will fall! I just hope that, when the numbers do come
> out, we don't go through an ad nauseam exchange about some spec being a big
> problem or a serious disappointment. A lot of these differences are only
> determinable in a lab! On the other hand, if something does seem to be a
> real problem, I'd also bet it can be fixed!
>
> Dave W7AQK
>
>
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