KX3 Utility Linux version

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On 06/12/2018 06:08 PM, rich hurd WC3T wrote:

> Brownie points if you know what SPOOL meant. Without resorting to
> Google-fu.
>
> I'm still a green-screen guy at heart.  Give me a raised floor and a bunch
> of bus and tag pairs, and I'm in heaven.
>
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 13:17 Fred Jensen <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I've migrated through several OS worlds over the decades.  IBM's
>> universe had a significant amount of acronyms that required careful
>> tongue maneuvers to pronounce ... "DASD" was one of the easiest, as was
>> "ISAM" ["Incredibly Slow Access Method"].  EB-se-dick, a little harder.
>> Eventually, Unix became essential and I grep-ped and glob-bed, and
>> struggled with regular expressions about as much as I had to with
>> partial differential equations.  When I retired, I decided to learn how
>> to read Russian with all the free time I was going to have.  Russian was
>> much easier than Unix.  The free time never materialized.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>> Sparks NV DM09dn
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>>
>> On 6/11/2018 9:34 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>>> If you are not good at deciphering cryptic messages with geek words,
>>> don't use Linux.
>>> I do wish it were better, but Linux seems to be steeped in "geekdom
>>> language" - if you are not educated in the language, you do not
>>> deserve to be part of our culture.
>>> Until Linux produces plain text language for errors and such messages,
>>> it will not be a major player in the computer operating systems.
>>> Windows has its share of cryptic messages, but at least it is in plain
>>> text and does not often refer to "gobbledygook" that is only
>>> understood by Windows geeks.
>>> I have tried Linux and have been stiffed by questions to the forums
>>> saying essentially "if you don't understand the language, go away".
>>> I am not a computer dummy - I understand DOS, but the Linux language
>>> is a thing unto itself.
>>> Ubuntu and Linux Mint have reduced the Linux install process
>>> difficulty, but have not tackled the cryptic messages that can result.
>>> If you only want to do only email and web surfing, then Linux can work
>>> well for you, but anything else can be daunting with cryptic requests
>>> to enter a nonsensical string of commands for "who knows what results"
>>> and be shamed by the forum geeks who blame you for not understanding
>>> the language.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
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[Mike Markowski-2]

I don't reach as far back as bus & tag pairs, but I'm with you, Rich.
:-)  TOPS-10, MCP, VMS, and the best - Unix!  A picture I shared here
recently of a fun little retro computer recreation:

   http://udel.edu/~mm/pidp8i/

Running the original os/8.  Fun stuff.

SPOOL...system peripheral <?> off line.  Almost!

73,
Mike ab3ap

On 06/12/2018 09:08 PM, rich hurd WC3T wrote:
> Brownie points if you know what SPOOL meant. Without resorting to
> Google-fu.
>
> I'm still a green-screen guy at heart.  Give me a raised floor and a bunch
> of bus and tag pairs, and I'm in heaven.
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Simultaneous Perioheral Opeations On Line.   :)

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 21:23 Mike Markowski <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I don't reach as far back as bus & tag pairs, but I'm with you, Rich.
> :-)  TOPS-10, MCP, VMS, and the best - Unix!  A picture I shared here
> recently of a fun little retro computer recreation:
>
>    http://udel.edu/~mm/pidp8i/
>
> Running the original os/8.  Fun stuff.
>
> SPOOL...system peripheral <?> off line.  Almost!
>
> 73,
> Mike ab3ap
>
> On 06/12/2018 09:08 PM, rich hurd WC3T wrote:
> > Brownie points if you know what SPOOL meant. Without resorting to
> > Google-fu.
> >
> > I'm still a green-screen guy at heart.  Give me a raised floor and a
> bunch
> > of bus and tag pairs, and I'm in heaven.
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[GeorgeP1111]

Ok, here’s what was sent to me to get the 32 bit KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz installed on Linux Mint ‘Sylvia’  Cinnamon Desktop edition 18.3  64-bit.  
Now the KX3 Utility is running.
tnx to all that responded.
de  George
WD0AKZ
dit – dit
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Try these suggestions to get 32-bit running.

*****************  Dependencies for use with Elecraft Linux-based Utilities ********************************

1) 32 bit vs 64 bit Distributions

The Elecraft Utilities for Linux are 32-bit and require installing 32-bit compatiblity libraries on 64-bit distros that will allow 32-bit apps to run.

--------------------


On Unbuntu 14 and later based distros:

sudo apt-get install libwebkitgtk-1.0.0:i386

sudo apt-get install libcanberra-gtk-module:i386

sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386 libglib2.0-0:i386 libsoup2.4-1:i386 libgtk2.0-0:i386

2) cURL must be installed on your Linux distro for FTP

You will have to install cURL if it is not pre-installed. Most distros have it pre-installed, but not all. It is easy to install from a terminal:

sudo apt-get install curl

3) Ensure your DialOut groups are set up properly

Most users, other than root and members of the dialout group, do not have read/write permissions on the serial port device files. The Utilities cannot access the serial ports if the user does not have r/w permissions. An easy way to set the permissions is to add the user to the dialout group.

sudo adduser username dialout

4) All files and directories included in the gzipped tar file must be kept together in the same location. The "Help directory", "Libs" directory (ie k3util Libs), and executable binary (ie k3util) must all be located together in the same directory.

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Don't let a few idiots put you off Linux.

Look into the [hidden email] mailing list (the home of Fldigi etc)
Lots of GOOD help on there, by many who remember our initial frustration
with it all.  (Some Elecraft users there too.)

As to one OS vs another.  Linux is different, that is all.

Do any of you remember when you first started using Windows or Mac*?
I'll bet that was just as frustrating and confusing then, as if you
expect to "just jump in, and survive" with Linux (or BSD, or MacOS)
these days.

(* Has to be said, that back in the Steve Jobs days, the UI was truly a
work of art, you didn't need instructions.  Since his sad demise, it's
all gone a bit Pete Tong.)

As others have said, it is possible to have a PC that will boot it's
original OS (Windows or Mac) or one or more versions of Linux (or any
other OS) so you can choose at boot time what you want.

Yes, there are several well known Ham Radio programs that have no
"Direct equivalent" Linux version, but there is other equaly good
software native to Linux that will do the same job.  Mostly.

There are also some that have no equivalent, or even anything close
(sadly.)   Some of them will run under WINE, some wont.

But, unless you use them all the time every day, you won't need them
most of the time.  (Thinking here of Motorola DMR programming software
as an example.)  In such cases, just boot into Windows, get that job
done, then if needed reboot back into Linux (or whatever) and carry on.

If you want to just get your toes wet, without risk of corrupting or
bricking your main PC, get another, or even a Raspberry Pi, to
experiment on.  The Pi's are good, as the whole OS etc fits on one SD
card.  If you mess it up, it's trivial to wipe and start over.

The latest Pi's are really good and powerful machines too, much more
than you'd expect from something of it's size, and at the price, can't
be beat.

Dont give up.  Keep moving.  Explore the pre-built packages first,
before trying to learn how to compile stuf from source.

But when ready, get onto the Fldigi wiki, and follow the build
instructions there, to build and install the latest Fldigi etc.
http://www.w1hkj.com/doku/doku.php?id=start

If needed, ask on linuxham.io for assistance, and it will be given.

73.

        Dave G0WBX.

(KX3, TS870s, FT736r, Mostly Linux these days, but still use Windows at
work.)


On 12/06/18 15:11, [hidden email] wrote:

> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version
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> Re:?? "if you don't understand the language, go away".
>
> THANK YOU, DON!!!
>
> I agree with your entire post.? I have actually asked for help in forums, and the responders have made typos what they tell me to type, and then they brow beat me because they made a mistake.? One of them actually said, "You should have known what I meant to type!"? YIKES!? Not exactly a friendly community.
>
> Every time I think about switching to Linux, it doesn't take me long to reconsider.? Way too many hours are spent trying to make things work.? It just isn't worth the trouble.
>
> Mark
> KE6BB
>
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Don't forget ...

    sudo apt install curl

on a command line, If you find it errors trying to get the firmware
updates from Elecraft.


Also, it's just:-

    file kx3util

on a command line, from within the directory where the "target" file
(kx3util) is, to find out it's details.

dave@G0WBX-Dell-System-XPS-L502X ~/Elecraft/kx3util_1_14_4_11 $ file kx3util
kx3util: ELF 32-bit LSB  executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, stripped

(an older version of the utility.)

73.

Dave G0WBX (currently using Mint 17.2 32 bit.)



On 12/06/18 15:11, [hidden email] wrote:

> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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>
> KX3 Utils
>
> I am running a totally basic Ubuntu Environment (64 bit).
>
> I will get the KX3 Utils, extract and check the file type
>
>     mkdir /elecraft
>     chdir /elecraft
>     wget http://www.elecraft.com/software/KX3/KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz 
>     tar -zxvf KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz
>     cd kx3util_1_16_6_25
>
> Now to see what this file is
>
>     file file kx3util
>
> I get the following output?.
>
> kx3util: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, stripped
>
> Ok  - it is a 32bit Image? So it will not run.
>
> Here?s how to fix it, by  adding the i386 Package ability, and then adding some needed libs
>
>     dpkg --add-architecture i386
>     apt-get update
>     apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386
>
> Now if I check the file kx3util I can see it has resolved the i386 links (because I added the the i386 libs)
>
> ldd kx3util
> linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xf77d0000)
> libdl.so.2 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0xf77c4000)
> libpthread.so.0 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0xf77a7000)
> libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 (0xf7630000)
> libm.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0xf75db000)
> libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xf75be000)
> libc.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0xf7407000)
> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf77d1000)
>
> Hope that is a slightly clearer instruction.
>
> Should you want to automate this using Docker, this is the docker script for this.
>
>
> FROM ubuntu:16.04
> MAINTAINER [hidden email]
>
> #Purpose of this project is test KX3 util
> #by adding i386 lib references
> #It will pull the elecraft kx3 utility into /elecraft
> #
> #Suggested Build:
> #    docker -t test/kx3:1.0 dockerfile
> #
> #Suggested Run:
> #    docker run -it test/kx3:1.0
> run apt-get update && \
>     apt-get install wget -y
>
> run dpkg --add-architecture i386 && \
>     apt-get update && \
>     mkdir /elecraft && \
>     chdir /elecraft && \
>     wget http://www.elecraft.com/software/KX3/KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz && \
>     tar -zxvf KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz && \
>     apt-get install -y libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
> Tim, A45WG => DU3/M0FGC

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