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KX3 WSPR Thermo Stressing?

GeorgeP1111
I am using my KX3 as a WSPR beacon at 500mw with a Arduino based controller which provides GPS time sync, WSPR data, and audio.  Currently I am running mono band at 1 two minute transmit cycle per 10 minute time block.  Now I want to add KX3 band switching to my controller and increase my T/R duty cycle.  Watching the PA.I current I see that my current 2 minute ON 8 minute OFF cycle shows a 30c ON – 46c OFF temp range.  Running a 2 minute ON 2 minute OFF cycle shows a stabilized 36c – 49c range after about 5 ON/OFF cycles, and running continuous transmit cycles stabilizes at 48c – 53c after 6 cycles.  So based on these 3 duty cycles I see a 16c, 13c, and a 5c temperature rise.  The 2 on/8 off has the lowest max temp but the widest temp range, the continuous transmit has the highest max temp but the lowest range.  My plan would be to have my controller switch the KX3 through 5 bands transmitting the 1 minute 53 seconds on a band and switching to the next band during the 7 second opening.



I have done extended temperature calibration with the XG50 so frequency stability should not be a issue.



My question is, 53c (127f) is hot, are there any thermo stress issues to the PA or the KX3 in general with running any of these three duty cycles?  Obviously I don’t want to damage my KX3.



Tnx

George

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Re: KX3 WSPR Thermo Stressing?

Don Wilhelm
George,

Actually 53 degC is not that hot.  Look at the specs for semiconductors
and you will find that is only a medium temperature.

Actually at 500mW, it is unlikely that the KX3 will be damaged by even a
continuous key-down.

If you are operating it outdoors, you should keep it out of direct sun.

If it concerns you, I would suggest adding one of the aftermarket heatsinks.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/9/2018 12:11 PM, George Pasek wrote:
> I am using my KX3 as a WSPR beacon at 500mw with a Arduino based controller which provides GPS time sync, WSPR data, and audio.  Currently I am running mono band at 1 two minute transmit cycle per 10 minute time block.  Now I want to add KX3 band switching to my controller and increase my T/R duty cycle.  Watching the PA.I current I see that my current 2 minute ON 8 minute OFF cycle shows a 30c ON – 46c OFF temp range.  Running a 2 minute ON 2 minute OFF cycle shows a stabilized 36c – 49c range after about 5 ON/OFF cycles, and running continuous transmit cycles stabilizes at 48c – 53c after 6 cycles.  So based on these 3 duty cycles I see a 16c, 13c, and a 5c temperature rise.  The 2 on/8 off has the lowest max temp but the widest temp range, the continuous transmit has the highest max temp but the lowest range.  My plan would be to have my controller switch the KX3 through 5 bands transmitting the 1 minute 53 seconds on a band and switching to the next band during the 7 second opening.
>
> I have done extended temperature calibration with the XG50 so frequency stability should not be a issue.
>
> My question is, 53c (127f) is hot, are there any thermo stress issues to the PA or the KX3 in general with running any of these three duty cycles?  Obviously I don’t want to damage my KX3.
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Re: KX3 WSPR Thermo Stressing?

GeorgeP1111
Thanks for your reply Don.

I read the High Temp Limit is set for 60c so I figure I was not dangerously
high but just wanted to check if there might be a mechanical preference
between the shorter duty cycle with the lower temp but larger temp swing
causing more of a expansion contraction issue over time or the higher duty
cycle with higher temp but not near as much heating cooling.  I know that on
some devices the thermo stressing of components due to repeated heating
cooling cycles is a issue.

This will probably be in continuous use for a while so my concern is the
long term effects.

I will keep a watch on the temp and maybe add the heatsink as you suggested.

tnx
George
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From: Don Wilhelm
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 WSPR Thermo Stressing?

George,

Actually 53 degC is not that hot.  Look at the specs for semiconductors
and you will find that is only a medium temperature.

Actually at 500mW, it is unlikely that the KX3 will be damaged by even a
continuous key-down.

If you are operating it outdoors, you should keep it out of direct sun.

If it concerns you, I would suggest adding one of the aftermarket heatsinks.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/9/2018 12:11 PM, George Pasek wrote:

> I am using my KX3 as a WSPR beacon at 500mw with a Arduino based
> controller which provides GPS time sync, WSPR data, and audio.  Currently
> I am running mono band at 1 two minute transmit cycle per 10 minute time
> block.  Now I want to add KX3 band switching to my controller and increase
> my T/R duty cycle.  Watching the PA.I current I see that my current 2
> minute ON 8 minute OFF cycle shows a 30c ON – 46c OFF temp range.  Running
> a 2 minute ON 2 minute OFF cycle shows a stabilized 36c – 49c range after
> about 5 ON/OFF cycles, and running continuous transmit cycles stabilizes
> at 48c – 53c after 6 cycles.  So based on these 3 duty cycles I see a 16c,
> 13c, and a 5c temperature rise.  The 2 on/8 off has the lowest max temp
> but the widest temp range, the continuous transmit has the highest max
> temp but the lowest range.  My plan would be to have my controller switch
> the KX3 through 5 bands transmitting the 1 minute 53 seconds on a band and
> switching to the next band during the 7 second opening.
>
> I have done extended temperature calibration with the XG50 so frequency
> stability should not be a issue.
>
> My question is, 53c (127f) is hot, are there any thermo stress issues to
> the PA or the KX3 in general with running any of these three duty cycles?
> Obviously I don’t want to damage my KX3.


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Re: KX3 WSPR Thermo Stressing?

Bob N3MNT
You can always add a small PC type fan that sits on the desk and blows on the
KX3 heat sink.  I will just add an extra margin of comfort.




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