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There's one nice thing about late hardware: the firmware gets better.
Lyle and I just added Dual Watch to the KX3, which works amazingly well. At present the VFOs can be separated by up to 15 kHz, but in theory we can go to 30 kHz with the present DSP implementation. Now I'm looking for my first DX split QSO with dual watch. What's the best DX spotting web site? Wayne, N6KR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Great job Wayne.
30 kHz should be enough for most of the expeditions. VE7CC IMHO is the best DX spotting software today. 73, Igor UA9CDC ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne Burdick To: [hidden email] ; Elecraft Reflector Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:14 AM Subject: [KX3] KX3 dual-watch working (ahead of schedule!) There's one nice thing about late hardware: the firmware gets better. Lyle and I just added Dual Watch to the KX3, which works amazingly well. At present the VFOs can be separated by up to 15 kHz, but in theory we can go to 30 kHz with the present DSP implementation. Now I'm looking for my first DX split QSO with dual watch. What's the best DX spotting web site? Wayne, N6KR __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity: a.. New Members 24 a.. New Files 1 Visit Your Group Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest . Unsubscribe . Terms of Use. __,_._,___ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I read the KX3 filter option has 1,000 Hz and 3,000 Hz filters that give a choice of 500 or 1,500 Hz filtering in CW and 3,000 Hz in SSB. An explanation of how that happens would help.
3,000 Hz filtering is not available in CW and 1,500 Hz is not available in SSB, right? It seems to me one has to buy the KX3 filter option just to have the same strong adjacent signal rejection the "normal" 3,000 Hz (2.7 kHz 5-pole/2.8 kHz 8-pole) SSB bandwidth the base model K3 offers. And if I understand the end result correctly, there is no strong adjacent signal rejection with KX3 dual-watch on like there is with the K3 with narrow filters on both the main and sub receivers. In most cases, the bandwidth will be 15 kHz (CW split > 1,500 Hz). Is that correct? Thanks, -- Moe - AB8XA Elecraft KX1 #2484, Fists #13020, SKCC #7460, FPQRP #2617, NAQCC #5352, QRP-ARCI #14326 On Mar 8, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > There's one nice thing about late hardware: the firmware gets better. > > Lyle and I just added Dual Watch to the KX3, which works amazingly > well. At present the VFOs can be separated by up to 15 kHz, but in > theory we can go to 30 kHz with the present DSP implementation. > > Now I'm looking for my first DX split QSO with dual watch. What's the > best DX spotting web site? > > Wayne, > N6KR > > __._,_.___ > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic > Messages in this topic (1) > RECENT ACTIVITY: New Members 24 New Files 1 > Visit Your Group > Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use > . > > __,_._,___ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I don't know if it's the best, but this one is good:
http://www.dxsummit.fi/DxSpots.aspx GL! Mike ab3ap On 03/08/2012 11:14 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > [...] What's the best DX spotting web site? > > Wayne, > N6KR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Wayne,
I like this one: http://www.dxsummit.fi/DxSpots.aspx 73, BILL W4RK On Mar 8, 2012, at 10:14 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > There's one nice thing about late hardware: the firmware gets better. > > Lyle and I just added Dual Watch to the KX3, which works amazingly > well. At present the VFOs can be separated by up to 15 kHz, but in > theory we can go to 30 kHz with the present DSP implementation. > > Now I'm looking for my first DX split QSO with dual watch. What's the > best DX spotting web site? > > Wayne, > N6KR > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Now I'm looking for my first DX split QSO with dual watch. What's the > best DX spotting web site? ========== Wayne, the gold standard spotting setup is the VE7CC program. Go to his website and download his application. It is a cluster client that eliminates the telnet connection, formats your outgoing commands automatically, and parses and formats the spots. You can see 'em by band, mode, sorted by time, call sign, etc. It displays CQ zone, name of country, whether or not the DX uses LOTW, and lots of other stuff. The split-operating DXpeditions of the moment are A35YZ, 3C0E, PJ7PT, VP2MOM, ZD7XF, TG7/NC2N, and some others. Plenty of stuff to shoot at. When I first got a K2 about 7 years ago I used it, together with a wire out the window and into the backyard tree, to work DXCC, which turned out not to be hard to do with that great radio. It's great that the KX3 has dual watch because it's just essential to work split when you have a pipsqueak signal. Good DX! Tony KT0NY -- http://www.isb.edu/faculty/facultydir.aspx?ddlFaculty=352 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On 3/8/2012 9:14 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> ... > Now I'm looking for my first DX split QSO with dual watch. What's the > best DX spotting web site? Here are a couple of sites that I find helpful, both filtering for 20 meter activity: DX Sherlock http://www.vhfdx.info/spots/map.php?Lan=E&Frec=14&ML=M&Map=W2L&DXC=N&HF=S&GL=N When the selected band is open the map looks like the end game in a session of Missile Command. There are regional views and database views also. DXsummit http://www.dxsummit.fi/CustomFilter.aspx?customCount=50&customRange=14 The guys in Finland know how to build big antennas and a fine web site. There are many other sites, some of which show only QSOs that have a US or other North American end of the contact. And radio clubs in your area may have spotting nets that would be more useful for your purpose. 73, Gus Hansen KB0YH ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Wayne,
Well done! Dual watch has been a limitation of smaller rigs for a long time - that is until now.... Here is a list of DX clusters. Pick the one that is closest to your QTH. Remember the "W's" are at the bottom of the list. 73 Gene K1NR http://www.iw5edi.com/ham-radio/?dx-cluster-telnet-links,65 On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 20:14:12 -0800 Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote: > There's one nice thing about late hardware: the firmware > gets better. > > Lyle and I just added Dual Watch to the KX3, which works > amazingly > well. At present the VFOs can be separated by up to 15 > kHz, but in > theory we can go to 30 kHz with the present DSP > implementation. > > Now I'm looking for my first DX split QSO with dual > watch. What's the > best DX spotting web site? > > Wayne, > N6KR > > > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider. http://www.nni.com/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Thanks Wayne! I can't wait to get my hands on the radio.
I like to use DX Summit: http://www.dxsummit.fi/DxSpots.aspx You can look at spots per band, do pointed or general searches, etc. Must be nice to "work DX" for work! I am jealous! 73, Lou, W0FK
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Moe,
The 1.5 kHz roofing filter will still be used for very small splits (typical of a DX station requesting "up 1" or "up 2" in CW mode pileups). Beyond that the roofing filters are turned off. I'll post a detailed explanation of the filter bandwidths when I get a chance. Wayne On Mar 9, 2012, at 4:31 AM, AB8XA wrote: > I read the KX3 filter option has 1,000 Hz and 3,000 Hz filters that > give a choice of 500 or 1,500 Hz filtering in CW and 3,000 Hz in > SSB. An explanation of how that happens would help. > > 3,000 Hz filtering is not available in CW and 1,500 Hz is not > available in SSB, right? > > It seems to me one has to buy the KX3 filter option just to have the > same strong adjacent signal rejection the "normal" 3,000 Hz (2.7 kHz > 5-pole/2.8 kHz 8-pole) SSB bandwidth the base model K3 offers. > > And if I understand the end result correctly, there is no strong > adjacent signal rejection with KX3 dual-watch on like there is with > the K3 with narrow filters on both the main and sub receivers. In > most cases, the bandwidth will be 15 kHz (CW split > 1,500 Hz). > > Is that correct? > > Thanks, > -- > Moe - AB8XA > Elecraft KX1 #2484, Fists #13020, SKCC #7460, > FPQRP #2617, NAQCC #5352, QRP-ARCI #14326 > > > > > On Mar 8, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > >> There's one nice thing about late hardware: the firmware gets better. >> >> Lyle and I just added Dual Watch to the KX3, which works amazingly >> well. At present the VFOs can be separated by up to 15 kHz, but in >> theory we can go to 30 kHz with the present DSP implementation. >> >> Now I'm looking for my first DX split QSO with dual watch. What's the >> best DX spotting web site? >> >> Wayne, >> N6KR >> >> __._,_.___ >> Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New >> Topic >> Messages in this topic (1) >> RECENT ACTIVITY: New Members 24 New Files 1 >> Visit Your Group >> Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use >> . >> >> __,_._,___ > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I agree and wanted to mention that you can choose any telnet cluster in the
Configuration-->Cluster (Telnet) list. I prefer a node that uses VE7CC's node software, CC Cluster. Telnet clusters are much more configurable than web clusters and send spots real-time rather that at pre-set intervals. I use CC User to feed the DXLab Suite, http://www.dxlabsuite.com/ , but CC User used standalone can interface with a K3 (it's in the Port Setup window). http://www.ve7cc.net/ 73, Jim N7US -----Original Message----- On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote: > Now I'm looking for my first DX split QSO with dual watch. What's the > best DX spotting web site? ========== Wayne, the gold standard spotting setup is the VE7CC program. Go to his website and download his application. It is a cluster client that eliminates the telnet connection, formats your outgoing commands automatically, and parses and formats the spots. You can see 'em by band, mode, sorted by time, call sign, etc. It displays CQ zone, name of country, whether or not the DX uses LOTW, and lots of other stuff. The split-operating DXpeditions of the moment are A35YZ, 3C0E, PJ7PT, VP2MOM, ZD7XF, TG7/NC2N, and some others. Plenty of stuff to shoot at. When I first got a K2 about 7 years ago I used it, together with a wire out the window and into the backyard tree, to work DXCC, which turned out not to be hard to do with that great radio. It's great that the KX3 has dual watch because it's just essential to work split when you have a pipsqueak signal. Good DX! Tony KT0NY ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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the big difference with using the VE7CC pgm to access the VE7CC cluster or
using DXLabs spot collector to access the VE7CC cluster With VE&CC pgm if you click on a spot which has a split info entered in the comment field in VE7CC the K3 will change VFO A to the spotted frequency but does not change the K3's VFO B to the split frequency nor does it place the K3 into split operations if you are using DXLabs spotcollector and commander and click on that same spot the K3 shifts the VFO A to the DX frequency it also changes the VFO B to the split frequency and places the K3 into split operation also if you have the 2nd receiver installed VFO B is also placed in sub hope I said all that correctly GB & 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan On 3/9/2012 2:55 PM, Jim McDonald wrote: > I agree and wanted to mention that you can choose any telnet cluster in the > Configuration-->Cluster (Telnet) list. I prefer a node that uses VE7CC's > node software, CC Cluster. Telnet clusters are much more configurable than > web clusters and send spots real-time rather that at pre-set intervals. > > I use CC User to feed the DXLab Suite, http://www.dxlabsuite.com/ , but CC > User used standalone can interface with a K3 (it's in the Port Setup > window). > > http://www.ve7cc.net/ > > 73, Jim N7US Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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