Key-Out of the K3
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It's not currently adjustable in version 1.66 MCU firmware, as far as I know it's on the "to do" list. 73 Dave, G4AON ----------------------- Eric knows this and has built an adjustable delay capability into the radio, all that is needed is how to program the delay. Mike _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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This adjustment is not yet coded into the firmware but is on the list to be done.
------------------------- 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 K3#0009 On Tue Feb 5 11:45 , AD6XY - Mike sent: > >I do not think any of the replies so far have understood the question. How do >you program the radio to a specified delay producing RF after the PTT >signal. The minimum 10mS is far too fast for many applications, 50mS to >100ms is necessary. > >Sequencing is absolutely essential for power amplifiers and especially >pre-amplifiers and especially at VHF and above. The relays must have settled >and achieved maximum isolation before any RF appears and this takes time. >While many RF relays are quite fast, they are frequently not as fast as the >front end is to fail. > >Eric knows this and has built an adjustable delay capability into the radio, >all that is needed is how to program the delay. > >Mike > > > > >Lee Buller wrote: >> >> I know that sequencing of Rigs and Amps has been an issue with many brands >> of radios. As I am researching the features of the K3, I did not see any >> parameter in the documentation that would set a delay. So, I went to the >> list archives (see I can look things up) and found this answer. >> >> Eric Wrote last October.... >> >> "If a radio has proper Key-Out before RF sequencing, like the K3 and K2 >> do, this is NOT necessary. We have no problem running with relay based >> amplifiers, including those with large, slow relays, like the SB-220 etc. >> >> A few radios out there have a TX loop feature, but most others do not. >> Its not needed with the K3. >> >> 73, Eric WA6HHQ" >> >>>From what I gather from his response, is that the sequence is already >built in the firmware of the K3 as well as the K2. So the K3 will not >"squirt-out" RF until the "relay circuit" is closed...or should I say the >firmware makes sure the switching transistor is on before emitting RF. >> >> Is that the case? Therefore, no special parameter would be needed. I >> would like a clarification of this feature from the users and what users >> have found in "real-life." >> >> Lee Buller >> K0WA >> "It is DANGEROUS to read the manual before getting the rig." >> >> >> >> >> In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you >> don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you >> can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some >> Common Sense. Is Common Sense divine? >> _______________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Post to: [hidden email] >> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >> >> > >-- >View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Key-Out-of-the-K3- >Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >_______________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Post to: [hidden email] >You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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This adjustment is not yet coded into the firmware but is on the list to be done.
------------------------- 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 K3#0009 On Tue Feb 5 11:45 , AD6XY - Mike sent: > >I do not think any of the replies so far have understood the question. How do >you program the radio to a specified delay producing RF after the PTT >signal. The minimum 10mS is far too fast for many applications, 50mS to >100ms is necessary. > >Sequencing is absolutely essential for power amplifiers and especially >pre-amplifiers and especially at VHF and above. The relays must have settled >and achieved maximum isolation before any RF appears and this takes time. >While many RF relays are quite fast, they are frequently not as fast as the >front end is to fail. > >Eric knows this and has built an adjustable delay capability into the radio, >all that is needed is how to program the delay. > >Mike > > > > >Lee Buller wrote: >> >> I know that sequencing of Rigs and Amps has been an issue with many brands >> of radios. As I am researching the features of the K3, I did not see any >> parameter in the documentation that would set a delay. So, I went to the >> list archives (see I can look things up) and found this answer. >> >> Eric Wrote last October.... >> >> "If a radio has proper Key-Out before RF sequencing, like the K3 and K2 >> do, this is NOT necessary. We have no problem running with relay based >> amplifiers, including those with large, slow relays, like the SB-220 etc. >> >> A few radios out there have a TX loop feature, but most others do not. >> Its not needed with the K3. >> >> 73, Eric WA6HHQ" >> >>>From what I gather from his response, is that the sequence is already >built in the firmware of the K3 as well as the K2. So the K3 will not >"squirt-out" RF until the "relay circuit" is closed...or should I say the >firmware makes sure the switching transistor is on before emitting RF. >> >> Is that the case? Therefore, no special parameter would be needed. I >> would like a clarification of this feature from the users and what users >> have found in "real-life." >> >> Lee Buller >> K0WA >> "It is DANGEROUS to read the manual before getting the rig." >> >> >> >> >> In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you >> don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you >> can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some >> Common Sense. Is Common Sense divine? >> _______________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Post to: [hidden email] >> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >> >> > >-- >View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Key-Out-of-the-K3- >Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >_______________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Post to: [hidden email] >You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I find it works well with my ALS-600.
Doug, W6JD K3/100 #23 K2/100 #1626 -------------- Original message -------------- From: Barry N1EU <[hidden email]> > > Lee, it would help if you mentioned what amplifier YOU would be interfacing > to the K3. My experience with Brand X amplifier might have no bearing on > you. > > 73, > Barry N1EU > > > Lee Buller wrote: > > > > Is that the case? Therefore, no special parameter would be needed. I > > would like a clarification of this feature from the users and what users > > have found in "real-life." > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/Key-Out-of-the-K3-tp15295805p15296615.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I told my Wife that I was thinking of buying a K3.
She said no and her reason! "You already have a K3. You have a K1 and a K2" "Therefore you have a K3. K1+K2" She informed me that this was the new math :O) I had to share this. Bless my Wife's heart. Robert Parker VE3RPF _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: Why my Wife won't let me buy a K3
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But if you buy a KX1, you will then be back to 2! (ex-1... ;-)
That should open up room for a K3, right? 73, Eric WA6HHQ ---- Robert Parker wrote: > I told my Wife that I was thinking of buying a K3. > > She said no and her reason! > > "You already have a K3. You have a K1 and a K2" > "Therefore you have a K3. K1+K2" > > She informed me that this was the new math :O) > > I had to share this. > Bless my Wife's heart. > > Robert Parker > VE3RPF > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: Why my Wife won't let me buy a K3
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LOL - I'm glad I only have a K1 so far! K3 should be on the way in May.
73 de Joseph Durnal NE3R On Feb 5, 2008 9:39 PM, Robert Parker <[hidden email]> wrote: > I told my Wife that I was thinking of buying a K3. > > She said no and her reason! > > "You already have a K3. You have a K1 and a K2" > "Therefore you have a K3. K1+K2" > > She informed me that this was the new math :O) > > I had to share this. > Bless my Wife's heart. > > Robert Parker > VE3RPF > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: Why my Wife won't let me buy a K3
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Tell her you need a K6. (I'm still holding off on the K5.) :)
On Tue, 5 Feb 2008, Robert Parker wrote: > I told my Wife that I was thinking of buying a K3. > > She said no and her reason! > > "You already have a K3. You have a K1 and a K2" > "Therefore you have a K3. K1+K2" > > She informed me that this was the new math :O) > > I had to share this. > Bless my Wife's heart. > > Robert Parker > VE3RPF > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > -- Hisashi T Fujinaka - [hidden email] BSEE(6/86) + BSChem(3/95) + BAEnglish(8/95) + MSCS(8/03) + $2.50 = latte _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Not yet. There will be a menu item for an adjustable delay within certain limits, but I cannot say exactly
when it will be available. ------------------------- 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 K3#0009 On Wed Feb 6 9:23 , "Robert Tellefsen" sent: >Is there any adjustment to this delay? >I think the K2's delay is a bit longer, >for example. >73, Bob N6WG > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dave G4AON" [hidden email]> >To: [hidden email]> >Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:28 AM >Subject: [Elecraft] Key-Out of the K3 > > >> Lee >> >> From the key out line on the K3 going low, RF appears just a shade >over >> 10 mS later. You need a linear that can accept RF in that time. >> >> 73 Dave, G4AON >> K3/100 #80 and Acom 1000 linear. >> http://www.astromag.co.uk/k3/ >> ===================================== >> I would like a clarification of this feature from the users and what >> users have found in "real-life." >> >> Lee Buller >> K0WA >> _______________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Post to: [hidden email] >> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > >_______________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Post to: [hidden email] >You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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