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Lightening damage

john@kk9a.com
Bingo!
Of course the tower is not immune from lightning. Mine has taken many direct
strikes and it has a number of ground rods. The ground system gives it a
path that is not though your equipment. Also a single point ground and
proper bonding as K9YC mentioned will keep everything at the same potential,
minimizing damage.

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John KK9A


Nr4c wrote:

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...nr4c. bill


> On Nov 7, 2017, at 11:58 AM, <john at kk9a.com> <john at kk9a.com> wrote:
>
> Why would lightning avoid striking a grounded tower?
>
> John KK9A


> Richard Fjeld rpfjeld at outlook.com
>
> I'm trying to avoid taking anyone's side on this discussion.  I wanted to
> say that I worked for a  company that had towers throughout the state
which
> were several hundred feet tall.  Over the years, I only saw one that took
a
> hit.  The company was so certain their grounding specs had not been
> followed, that they made the contractor dig up the entire grounding
layout.
> It revealed the specs had not been followed.  
>
> Certain radio and TV services need to operate 24/7 and can't shut down
when
> lightening threatens.  Their grounding methods apparently prevent the
towers
> from being hit .
>
> Rich, n0ce

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Re: Lightening damage

Peter Lambert
Likewise - 3 direct hits to the tower and nothing in the house damaged.
Radios always plugged in.

Do it properly (don't trust me - google it).  Lots of buried ground rods and
copper strap and a single point of ground connection for the radio bench
(only).  Gas arrestors across all the aerial and rotator connections (and
MOV's etc where appropriate).  Radio bench isolated from house mains and all
other electronic devices (optic fibre to PC).  All the lightning arrestors
(and MOV's) bolted to a single copper ground bus bar - the single point
ground connection is from here to the tower ground system.  This keeps the
differential voltage across all the radio connections to a minimum.

The caveat is - don't operate the radio (manually) in thunderstorms.  Of
course it's fine via the optic fibre.

One lightening hit shook my teeth and made me jump a couple of feet into the
air.  Most things in the house with running software just crashed.  All came
good when the power was cycled - nothing was permanently damaged.  To say I
was relieved is quite an understatement.  The 2m collinear at the top of the
tower didn't survive.

Shame the phone guys don't so it as well.  If I get a tree hit by lightning
in the front paddock the phone stops working (either immediately or the next
time it rains).  They replace the gas arrestors and dig up the cable.

73's Peter VK4JD


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Bingo!
Of course the tower is not immune from lightning. Mine has taken many direct
strikes and it has a number of ground rods. The ground system gives it a
path that is not though your equipment. Also a single point ground and
proper bonding as K9YC mentioned will keep everything at the same potential,
minimizing damage.

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John KK9A

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Re: Lightening damage

N2TK
Hi Peter,
Sounds like we have a similar setup for lightning protection. I wound up
using 23 ground rods all cadwelded together with solid #4 copper wire.
Everything coming into the house and leaving the house is all tied together
to one point common ground. I never disconnect and most of the time I don't
turn off equipment.
For sure I saw two direct hits. And on one I was in the yard coming towards
the house as a store approached. It hadn't started raining yet so thought I
was safe. Took a tower hit that knocked me to the ground.

The one difference is I took off the MOV's and use gas arrestors. When the
MOV's took a hit they would short and  take out the driver IC's in the
SteppIR controller. I do have a ground position for the cable coming into
the shack for the SteppIR controller.

73,
N2TK, Tony


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Likewise - 3 direct hits to the tower and nothing in the house damaged.
Radios always plugged in.

Do it properly (don't trust me - google it).  Lots of buried ground rods and
copper strap and a single point of ground connection for the radio bench
(only).  Gas arrestors across all the aerial and rotator connections (and
MOV's etc where appropriate).  Radio bench isolated from house mains and all
other electronic devices (optic fibre to PC).  All the lightning arrestors
(and MOV's) bolted to a single copper ground bus bar - the single point
ground connection is from here to the tower ground system.  This keeps the
differential voltage across all the radio connections to a minimum.

The caveat is - don't operate the radio (manually) in thunderstorms.  Of
course it's fine via the optic fibre.

One lightening hit shook my teeth and made me jump a couple of feet into the
air.  Most things in the house with running software just crashed.  All came
good when the power was cycled - nothing was permanently damaged.  To say I
was relieved is quite an understatement.  The 2m collinear at the top of the
tower didn't survive.

Shame the phone guys don't so it as well.  If I get a tree hit by lightning
in the front paddock the phone stops working (either immediately or the next
time it rains).  They replace the gas arrestors and dig up the cable.

73's Peter VK4JD


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Bingo!
Of course the tower is not immune from lightning. Mine has taken many direct
strikes and it has a number of ground rods. The ground system gives it a
path that is not though your equipment. Also a single point ground and
proper bonding as K9YC mentioned will keep everything at the same potential,
minimizing damage.

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John KK9A

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Re: Lightning damage

K9MA
Not lightening, LIGHTNING!


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Re: Lightning damage

Russ-2
YES
Now lets dump the spell check
Russ



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Not lightening, LIGHTNING!


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