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Paul VanOveren-3

Linking VFO s

I can not link the VFOS, an instantaneous push turns on the SUB receiver
ok, but anything longer that an instantaneous push, indicates DIVERSITY on
the B display. There is no inbetween, where it would show Link or Unlink.
Is there some menu setting I am missing?

Paul, NF8J
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N1EU

Re: Linking VFO s

CONFIG: VFO LNK

73, Barry N1EU

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Paul VanOveren <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I can not link the VFOS, an instantaneous push turns on the SUB receiver
> ok, but anything longer that an instantaneous push, indicates DIVERSITY on
> the B display. There is no inbetween, where it would show Link or Unlink.
> Is there some menu setting I am missing?
>
>
>
> Paul, NF8J
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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: Linking VFO s

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Paul,

Did you recently update the firmware? It is now a CONFIG menu item.
That was changed a few firmware releases back. Check the release notes
for several releases back.

The problem was that many users were getting into VFO Link when they
wanted to go into Diversity and created additional support activity both
on the reflector and at Elecraft customer support.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/25/2016 11:10 AM, Paul VanOveren wrote:

Igor Sokolov-2

Re: Linking VFO s

I have found this change pretty inconvenient because when getting out of
diversity mode I loose LINK state and has to go to the menu to change it
again. Besides in DIVERSITY mode I now cannot swap left and right audio
channels. Just wonder why such a limitation was implemented.

73, Igor UA9CDC

----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Wilhelm" <[hidden email]>
To: "Paul VanOveren" <[hidden email]>; "elecraft reflector"
<[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Linking VFO s

> Paul,
>
> Did you recently update the firmware? It is now a CONFIG menu item.
> That was changed a few firmware releases back. Check the release notes
> for several releases back.
>
> The problem was that many users were getting into VFO Link when they
> wanted to go into Diversity and created additional support activity both
> on the reflector and at Elecraft customer support.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 1/25/2016 11:10 AM, Paul VanOveren wrote:
>> I can not link the VFOS, an instantaneous push turns on the SUB receiver
>> ok, but anything longer that an instantaneous push, indicates DIVERSITY
>> on
>> the B display. There is no inbetween, where it would show Link or Unlink.
>> Is there some menu setting I am missing?
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul, NF8J
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Guy Olinger K2AV

Re: Linking VFO s

Going back quite a while, a lot of us complained to Elecraft that diversity
RX, which is a top reason for having a second RX at all, was really clunky
as it was originally implemented on the SUB button. That scheme confused
people and got them into K3 states which they didn't understand because
they held the button too long, or not long enough. It was complained about
over and over, enough that Elecraft changed how the SUB button worked for
diversity mode on the K3 and then put the yellow DIV on the front panel
lettering of the K3S, setting that scheme in concrete. So that's not going
to change.

Since the programming language has the LN command to link VFOs, DV for
diversity, and the ability to simulate just about any button press, along
with other commands, it should be possible to create a macro that does
everything, link plus everything else you do using link, a superior single
button press solution to the old scheme. The macro string can contain the
command to set the sub RX to main RX frequency, to get around the sub RX
going to the last frequency used on VFO B.

With the ability to send macro strings from the function keys in N1MM, it
is possible to create function key definitions which do everything from the
logger, by just importing a function key definition.

Myself, I am very happy with the change, as is to this point anyone I know
who uses the two RX in diversity. You might be the first to disagree I've
heard.

73, Guy K2AV

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Igor Sokolov <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I have found this change pretty inconvenient because when getting out of
> diversity mode I loose LINK state and has to go to the menu to change it
> again. Besides in DIVERSITY mode I now cannot swap left and right audio
> channels. Just wonder why such a limitation was implemented.
>
> 73, Igor UA9CDC
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Wilhelm" <[hidden email]>
> To: "Paul VanOveren" <[hidden email]>; "elecraft reflector" <
> [hidden email]>
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 9:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Linking VFO s
>
>
> Paul,
>>
>> Did you recently update the firmware? It is now a CONFIG menu item.
>> That was changed a few firmware releases back. Check the release notes
>> for several releases back.
>>
>> The problem was that many users were getting into VFO Link when they
>> wanted to go into Diversity and created additional support activity both on
>> the reflector and at Elecraft customer support.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 1/25/2016 11:10 AM, Paul VanOveren wrote:
>>
>>> I can not link the VFOS, an instantaneous push turns on the SUB receiver
>>> ok, but anything longer that an instantaneous push, indicates DIVERSITY
>>> on
>>> the B display. There is no inbetween, where it would show Link or Unlink.
>>> Is there some menu setting I am missing?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul, NF8J
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Gary Gregory-2

Re: Linking VFO s

I also did not want the change, however I have tied it to PF1 now.

I keep my vfo's linked, B vfo is set up 5 for hunting DXpeditions, a simple press on the pf1 key avoids the UP cops.

Just my take on Linking

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: "Guy Olinger K2AV" <[hidden email]>
Sent: ‎26/‎01/‎2016 11:27 AM
To: "Igor Sokolov" <[hidden email]>
Cc: "elecraft reflector" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Linking VFO s

Going back quite a while, a lot of us complained to Elecraft that diversity
RX, which is a top reason for having a second RX at all, was really clunky
as it was originally implemented on the SUB button. That scheme confused
people and got them into K3 states which they didn't understand because
they held the button too long, or not long enough. It was complained about
over and over, enough that Elecraft changed how the SUB button worked for
diversity mode on the K3 and then put the yellow DIV on the front panel
lettering of the K3S, setting that scheme in concrete. So that's not going
to change.

Since the programming language has the LN command to link VFOs, DV for
diversity, and the ability to simulate just about any button press, along
with other commands, it should be possible to create a macro that does
everything, link plus everything else you do using link, a superior single
button press solution to the old scheme. The macro string can contain the
command to set the sub RX to main RX frequency, to get around the sub RX
going to the last frequency used on VFO B.

With the ability to send macro strings from the function keys in N1MM, it
is possible to create function key definitions which do everything from the
logger, by just importing a function key definition.

Myself, I am very happy with the change, as is to this point anyone I know
who uses the two RX in diversity. You might be the first to disagree I've
heard.

73, Guy K2AV

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Igor Sokolov <[hidden email]> wrote:

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Edward A. Dauer

Linking VFO s

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I did exactly the same ‹ stated that I did not welcome the change, and
then lived with it by programming PF1 to carry the ³link² function. Works
just fine. Just needed to write a note into the manual recording the
change for when the executor of my estate needs to sell the K3. (I
haven¹t figured out yet how I¹ll be able to take it with me.)

Ted, KN1CBR

>Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 11:51:11 +1000
>From: Gary <[hidden email]>
>To: Guy Olinger K2AV <[hidden email]>, Igor Sokolov
> <[hidden email]>
>Cc: elecraft reflector <[hidden email]>
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Linking VFO s
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>I also did not want the change, however I have tied it to PF1 now.
>
>I keep my vfo's linked, B vfo is set up 5 for hunting DXpeditions, a
>simple press on the pf1 key avoids the UP cops.
>
>Just my take on Linking
>
>Gary

Igor Sokolov-2

Re: Linking VFO s

In reply to this post by Guy Olinger K2AV

Guy,
I use 2 RX of K3 with 2 different antennas pointed in two directions. With
this scheme I often use audio A/B swapping witch is not working in
DIVERCITY. I sure can program LINK into PF button but PF1 in my case is
already programmed to switch speaker on/off and PF2 - to invoke audio A/B
switching.
I can adapt to the new firmware with DIVERSITY single press but still I find
it less convenient then what we had before that.

73, Igor UA9CDC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Olinger K2AV" <[hidden email]>
To: "Igor Sokolov" <[hidden email]>
Cc: "Don Wilhelm" <[hidden email]>; "Paul VanOveren"
<[hidden email]>; "elecraft reflector" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Linking VFO s

> Going back quite a while, a lot of us complained to Elecraft that
> diversity
> RX, which is a top reason for having a second RX at all, was really clunky
> as it was originally implemented on the SUB button. That scheme confused
> people and got them into K3 states which they didn't understand because
> they held the button too long, or not long enough. It was complained about
> over and over, enough that Elecraft changed how the SUB button worked for
> diversity mode on the K3 and then put the yellow DIV on the front panel
> lettering of the K3S, setting that scheme in concrete. So that's not going
> to change.
>
> Since the programming language has the LN command to link VFOs, DV for
> diversity, and the ability to simulate just about any button press, along
> with other commands, it should be possible to create a macro that does
> everything, link plus everything else you do using link, a superior single
> button press solution to the old scheme. The macro string can contain the
> command to set the sub RX to main RX frequency, to get around the sub RX
> going to the last frequency used on VFO B.
>
> With the ability to send macro strings from the function keys in N1MM, it
> is possible to create function key definitions which do everything from
> the
> logger, by just importing a function key definition.
>
> Myself, I am very happy with the change, as is to this point anyone I know
> who uses the two RX in diversity. You might be the first to disagree I've
> heard.
>
> 73, Guy K2AV
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Igor Sokolov <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I have found this change pretty inconvenient because when getting out of
>> diversity mode I loose LINK state and has to go to the menu to change it
>> again. Besides in DIVERSITY mode I now cannot swap left and right audio
>> channels. Just wonder why such a limitation was implemented.
>>
>> 73, Igor UA9CDC
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Wilhelm" <[hidden email]>
>> To: "Paul VanOveren" <[hidden email]>; "elecraft reflector" <
>> [hidden email]>
>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 9:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Linking VFO s
>>
>>
>> Paul,
>>>
>>> Did you recently update the firmware? It is now a CONFIG menu item.
>>> That was changed a few firmware releases back. Check the release notes
>>> for several releases back.
>>>
>>> The problem was that many users were getting into VFO Link when they
>>> wanted to go into Diversity and created additional support activity both
>>> on
>>> the reflector and at Elecraft customer support.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
>>>
>>> On 1/25/2016 11:10 AM, Paul VanOveren wrote:
>>>
>>>> I can not link the VFOS, an instantaneous push turns on the SUB
>>>> receiver
>>>> ok, but anything longer that an instantaneous push, indicates DIVERSITY
>>>> on
>>>> the B display. There is no inbetween, where it would show Link or
>>>> Unlink.
>>>> Is there some menu setting I am missing?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Paul, NF8J
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
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Gary Gregory-2

Re: Linking VFO s

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That will two of us on the other side. We can always ask during a sqso...😊

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: "Dauer, Edward" <[hidden email]>
Sent: ‎26/‎01/‎2016 1:36 PM
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Subject: [Elecraft] Linking VFO s

I did exactly the same ‹ stated that I did not welcome the change, and
then lived with it by programming PF1 to carry the ³link² function. Works
just fine. Just needed to write a note into the manual recording the
change for when the executor of my estate needs to sell the K3. (I
haven¹t figured out yet how I¹ll be able to take it with me.)

Ted, KN1CBR

Gary Gregory-2

Re: Linking VFO s

In reply to this post by Igor Sokolov-2

Igor,
Program M1-M4 to do linking?
Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: "Igor Sokolov" <[hidden email]>
Sent: ‎26/‎01/‎2016 2:57 PM
To: "Guy Olinger K2AV" <[hidden email]>
Cc: "elecraft reflector" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Linking VFO s

Guy,
I use 2 RX of K3 with 2 different antennas pointed in two directions. With
this scheme I often use audio A/B swapping witch is not working in
DIVERCITY. I sure can program LINK into PF button but PF1 in my case is
already programmed to switch speaker on/off and PF2 - to invoke audio A/B
switching.
I can adapt to the new firmware with DIVERSITY single press but still I find
it less convenient then what we had before that.

73, Igor UA9CDC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Olinger K2AV" <[hidden email]>
To: "Igor Sokolov" <[hidden email]>
Cc: "Don Wilhelm" <[hidden email]>; "Paul VanOveren"
<[hidden email]>; "elecraft reflector" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Linking VFO s