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Mark M W2OR

M1-M4: Can the CW Paddle that has four memory switches, be wired directly to the K3? Switches built into paddle base.

I have a favorite paddle that has four SPST mini- spring switches built into its base, intended to activate cw memories in an external keyer (which I don't have). It's probably futile to think I can directly wire those switches up to the K3 and somehow activate M1 - M4, but just thought I'd ask here. Again, there's no external paddle here, and the preference is not to build any circuitry to make this work. Thanks, and happy Thanksgiving. de Mark w2or.

Mark M W2OR

Does anyone have an answer to this? Re: M1-M4: Can the CW Paddle that has four memory switches, be wired directly to the K3? Switches built into paddle base.

Shall we assume the answer is "no" to the below question ?? Anyone out there know how to do this? Thanks!

Mark M W2OR wrote

I have a favorite CW paddle that has four SPST mini- spring switches built into its base, intended to activate cw memories in an external keyer (which I don't currently have, and prefer not to have). It's probably futile to think these four switches can somehow be hooked up to the K3 to activate the K3's M1-M4 memories, but just thought I'd ask the experts here. Again, there's no external keyer here, and the preference is not to use one. Thanks. de Mark w2or.

Don Wilhelm-4

Re: Does anyone have an answer to this? Re: M1-M4: Can the CW Paddle that has four memory switches, be wired directly to the K3? Switches built into paddle base.

Mark,

Well, on the basis of "anything is possible", I guess one could add
extension wires to the PC board where the M1-M4 buttons make contact.
But I don't believe anyone would really want to do that. There are no
direct access signal lines to the pushbuttons.
However, any pushbutton is accessible through the RS-232 interface, so
if you can devise something (dedicated controller or PIC) that would
take input from those switches and massage it into the proper syntax to
put into the RS-232 port, then your pushbuttons can be used.

I am not certain why you are opposed to an external keyer, some keyer
chips with memories are quite small and might be contained directly on
your paddle base or adjacent to it. I am thinking of some of the keyer
kits offered by K1EL - check out http://k1el.tripod.com/K12.html for
info on the K12 keyer, it is quite small.

73,
Don W3FPR

Mark M W2OR wrote:

> Shall we assume the answer is "no" to the below question ?? Anyone out there
> know how to do this? Thanks!
>
>
> Mark M W2OR wrote:
>
>> I have a favorite CW paddle that has four SPST mini- spring switches built
>> into its base, intended to activate cw memories in an external keyer
>> (which I don't currently have, and prefer not to have). It's probably
>> futile to think these four switches can somehow be hooked up to the K3 to
>> activate the K3's M1-M4 memories, but just thought I'd ask the experts
>> here. Again, there's no external keyer here, and the preference is not to
>> use one. Thanks. de Mark w2or.
>>
>

AC7AC

Re: Does anyone have an answer to this? Re: M1-M4: Can the CW Paddle that has four memory switches, be wired directly to the K3? Switches built into paddle base.

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Re: Does anyone have an answer to this? Re: M1-M4: Can the CW Paddle that has four memory switches, be wired directly to the K3? Switches built into paddle base.

Please don't put questions in the subject. Ask them in the message
text.

Thanks,

Tom, N5GE

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>Shall we assume the answer is "no" to the below question ?? Anyone out
>there
>know how to do this? Thanks!
>

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wayne burdick

Re: M1-M4: Can a CW Paddle that has four memory switches be wired directly to the K3?

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In reply to this post by AC7AC

Short answer is: not a good idea.

The K3 front panel PC board has top-surface gold-plated "landing pads"
for each of the pushbutton switches. It might be possible to find
appropriate vias (holes) at which to attach discrete wires to activate
the switches externally. But this could introduce noise into the A-to-
D switch read channels, and also cause radiated noise (RFI) to
increase into the receiver.

A better approach would be to use an external pad of some kind to send
commands via RS232 to the K3.

Better yet: An Elecraft accessory keypad that plugs into the front-
panel jack under the VFO B and RIT controls. That's certainly
something we're considering.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Gary NL7Y

Re: M1-M4: Can a CW Paddle that has four memory switches be wired directly to the K3?

Wayne please also consider a means for integrating a keyboard for CW into your keypad (like this ? - http://www.hamgadgets.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=106) as some of us are fighting a loosing battle with arthritis - using my Vibrokeyer or Bencher is getting tougher every day.

73, Gary NL7Y

wayne burdick wrote

Better yet: An Elecraft accessory keypad that plugs into the front-
panel jack under the VFO B and RIT controls. That's certainly
something we're considering.
73,
Wayne
N6KR

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wayne burdick

Re: M1-M4: Can a CW Paddle that has four memory switches be wired directly to the K3?

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We're interested in this, Gary -- thanks for the suggestion.
Meanwhile, you can always use the "Terminal" function of K3 Utility to
send/receive in CW, RTTY, and PSK31 modes using your PC keyboard.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Dec 8, 2009, at 12:59 PM, Gary NL7Y wrote:

>
> Wayne please also consider a means for integrating a keyboard for CW
> into
> your keypad (like this ? -
> http://www.hamgadgets.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=106) as
> some of
> us are fighting a loosing battle with arthritis - using my
> Vibrokeyer or
> Bencher is getting tougher every day.
>
> 73, Gary NL7Y
>
>
> wayne burdick wrote:
>>
>> Better yet: An Elecraft accessory keypad that plugs into the front-
>> panel jack under the VFO B and RIT controls. That's certainly
>> something we're considering.
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR

M0XDF

Re: M1-M4: Can a CW Paddle that has four memory switches be wired directly to the K3?

i know we've hijacked a thread, but if you did go the keyboard route,
then being an to control everything about a keyer, including memories
etc (function keys), from a small usb keyboard would be cool.

73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
--
i don't do caps, i'm a unix man!
david ferrington, 1953 -

On 8 Dec 2009, at 21:09, Wayne Burdick wrote:

> We're interested in this, Gary -- thanks for the suggestion.
> Meanwhile, you can always use the "Terminal" function of K3 Utility to
> send/receive in CW, RTTY, and PSK31 modes using your PC keyboard.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
> On Dec 8, 2009, at 12:59 PM, Gary NL7Y wrote:
>
>>
>> Wayne please also consider a means for integrating a keyboard for CW
>> into
>> your keypad (like this ? -
>> http://www.hamgadgets.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=106) as
>> some of
>> us are fighting a loosing battle with arthritis - using my
>> Vibrokeyer or
>> Bencher is getting tougher every day.
>>
>> 73, Gary NL7Y

Reinaldo Leandro

Re: M1-M4: Can a CW Paddle that has four memory switches be wired directly to the K3?

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During the CQWWCW contest the MicroHam keyer died. After activating the
"Terminal" function on the laptop, we connected the radio thru the serial
port and configured N1MM to key via de com port selected. It worked fine
during the second half of the contest. After the contest, I tried the band
map and frequency control with N1MM and it worked. Unfortunately, we did not
have another USB adapter to run both functions at the same time. Maybe using
the device router supplied by MicroHam or a similar program will provide the
necessary virtual com ports.

73

Reinaldo, YV5AMH

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] M1-M4: Can a CW Paddle that has four memory
switches be wired directly to the K3?

We're interested in this, Gary -- thanks for the suggestion.
Meanwhile, you can always use the "Terminal" function of K3 Utility to
send/receive in CW, RTTY, and PSK31 modes using your PC keyboard.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Dec 8, 2009, at 12:59 PM, Gary NL7Y wrote:

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Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: M1-M4: Can a CW Paddle that has fourmemory switches be wired directly to the K3?

microHAM "Keyers" (CW keyer, microKEYER and microKEYER II) all
support a standard PS/2 keyboard for CW generation and 9 user
defined memories in addition to the CAT interface and other
features that vary by model.

K1EL (www.k1el.com) has an AT keyboard to CW converter chip
and a K42 CW Keyboard Kit as well.

There are other keyboard CW solutions, including the CW keyboard
functions built into logging programs like DXLab Suite (WinWarbler),
Logger32 and DX4Win as well as some stand alone CW keyboard
programs.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> Reinaldo Leandro
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:45 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] M1-M4: Can a CW Paddle that has
> fourmemory switches be wired directly to the K3?
>
>
> During the CQWWCW contest the MicroHam keyer died. After
> activating the "Terminal" function on the laptop, we
> connected the radio thru the serial port and configured N1MM
> to key via de com port selected. It worked fine during the
> second half of the contest. After the contest, I tried the
> band map and frequency control with N1MM and it worked.
> Unfortunately, we did not have another USB adapter to run
> both functions at the same time. Maybe using the device
> router supplied by MicroHam or a similar program will provide
> the necessary virtual com ports.
>
> 73
>
>
> Reinaldo, YV5AMH
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 16:39
> To: Gary NL7Y
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] M1-M4: Can a CW Paddle that has
> four memory switches be wired directly to the K3?
>
> We're interested in this, Gary -- thanks for the suggestion.
> Meanwhile, you can always use the "Terminal" function of K3
> Utility to
> send/receive in CW, RTTY, and PSK31 modes using your PC keyboard.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
> On Dec 8, 2009, at 12:59 PM, Gary NL7Y wrote:
>
> >
> > Wayne please also consider a means for integrating a keyboard for CW
> > into
> > your keypad (like this ? -
> >
> http://www.hamgadgets.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=106) as
> > some of
> > us are fighting a loosing battle with arthritis - using my
> > Vibrokeyer or
> > Bencher is getting tougher every day.
> >
> > 73, Gary NL7Y
> >
> >
> > wayne burdick wrote:
> >>
> >> Better yet: An Elecraft accessory keypad that plugs into
> the front-
> >> panel jack under the VFO B and RIT controls. That's certainly
> >> something we're considering. 73,
> >> Wayne
> >> N6KR
>
>
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