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M1-M4 Quick memories

Larry K1UO
I initially set up my K3 quick memories to store CW and SSB info and also set up keys 1-9 for quick band changes to CW or Phone.
normally when on a band, if I wanted to save additional band info,I could hit V-M and have M1 appear in place of the second vfo window...now I get a memory number instead.  How do I get back to the quick memory?  I follow the manual instructions but I cant seem to get back to the M1-M4 area instead of the general memory area.

clear as mud?
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Programming Line In gain

alorona
With MAIN:MIC SEL set to "LINE IN", I noticed that sending

MG005;

always sets the gain of the mic input, not the line input gain. What is the configuration and command to set the LINE IN gain with the MG command?

Al W6LX
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Re: M1-M4 Quick memories

Larry K1UO
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Let me try and clarify.  When I wanted to save some parameter setup on a particular band, I used V>M to save the info in the M1 or M2 keys for a quick update of band information.  Now when I use
that function all I get is memory position 00 displayed.  Nothing I do gets me back to the M1-M4  and I can no longer save my changes to each band so when I press, for example, M>V then 1 it loads the 160M setup info from the M1 or M2 keys.
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Re: M1-M4 Quick memories

Julian, G4ILO

Larry K1UO wrote
Let me try and clarify.  When I wanted to save some parameter setup on a particular band, I used V>M to save the info in the M1 or M2 keys for a quick update of band information.  Now when I use
that function all I get is memory position 00 displayed.  Nothing I do gets me back to the M1-M4  and I can no longer save my changes to each band so when I press, for example, M>V then 1 it loads the 160M setup info from the M1 or M2 keys.
Is the configuration option MEM 0-9 set to "nor" or "band sel"?
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392  K3 #222 KX3 #110
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Re: [Elecraft] M1-M4 Quick memories

Larry K1UO
Hi Julian.....MEM 0-9 is set to Band Sel     
 
 
I still go to the bands when I push M>V and the keys 1-9 to go to the programmed bands and M1 or M2 does set the saved parameters for those bands either cw or ssb....BUT...I can no longer add or make changes to the parameters stored in M1 or M2 by pressing V>M and the appropriate memory key.  I go straight to the selectable memory bank instead.
 
Hope thats clear?
 
73
Larry K1UO
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Larry K1UO wrote:
Let me try and clarify.  When I wanted to save some parameter setup on a particular band, I used V>M to save the info in the M1 or M2 keys for a quick update of band information.  Now when I use
that function all I get is memory position 00 displayed.  Nothing I do gets me back to the M1-M4  and I can no longer save my changes to each band so when I press, for example, M>V then 1 it loads the 160M setup info from the M1 or M2 keys.
Is the configuration option MEM 0-9 set to "nor" or "band sel"?
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392  K3 #222.
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* KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html



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Re: M1-M4 Quick memories

Larry K1UO
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when all else fails..reload software!!  Seems it does sometimes get tired  <8^)



Larry K1UO wrote
I initially set up my K3 quick memories to store CW and SSB info and also set up keys 1-9 for quick band changes to CW or Phone.
normally when on a band, if I wanted to save additional band info,I could hit V-M and have M1 appear in place of the second vfo window...now I get a memory number instead.  How do I get back to the quick memory?  I follow the manual instructions but I cant seem to get back to the M1-M4 area instead of the general memory area.

clear as mud?
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Elecraft

Larry - K2GN
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My Heil Pro Set is old and getting beatup.
I'm beenn going to sent it to the Heil Hospital to get it refur'ed'
But then I saw the Pro Set K2 on the web site.
Any body using one on a K3,  as well?
Thanks in advance.

de K2GN/Larry
K3 - S/N 3278
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Re: Elecraft

Ken Kopp-3
Have one on my K3 ... works very well.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Elecraft TX audio adjustment

Ken Kopp-3
Larry,

IMO, it's difficult to properly set up the TX audio ... especially
the equalizer ... by listening to yourself.  I have a long-time friend
who has a Flex that's helped me set up the TX's audio by guiding
me while watching my signal's audio on the Flex display.

73! Ken - K0PP
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Re: Elecraft TX audio adjustment

Dave, G4AON
I use my Perseus SDR to record the whole band while transmitting with my
K3 into a 50 Ohm load. For those not familiar with the Perseus, it can
record up to 1600 KHz of frequency to hard disk for later playback as if
you were listening to a live transmission.

I save the file with an appropriate file name and then play it back in
comparison with other recordings using different settings and/or
microphones. The Perseus is of course not limited by a crystal filter,
so the recording can be any bandwidth and I can also listen on the other
sideband.

73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
==============
IMO, it's difficult to properly set up the TX audio ... especially
the equalizer ... by listening to yourself. I have a long-time friend
who has a Flex that's helped me set up the TX's audio by guiding
me while watching my signal's audio on the Flex display.

73! Ken - K0PP
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Re: Elecraft

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I have an older Pro Set K2 which I 'm quite certain has a Heil HC5 element in it. I noticed the new one has a iC element. I dont think there is anything special about it other than the mic adapter is wired for the Elecraft front panel, otherwise it's a Pro Set. On the K3, you can plug the mic/headset connectors directly in the back without an adapter.


Larry - K2GN wrote
My Heil Pro Set is old and getting beatup.
I'm beenn going to sent it to the Heil Hospital to get it refur'ed'
But then I saw the Pro Set K2 on the web site.
Any body using one on a K3,  as well?
Thanks in advance.

de K2GN/Larry
K3 - S/N 3278
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Re: Elecraft

Don Wilhelm-4
Larry,

If your ProSet has the HC-5 element, it is NOT a ProSet K2.  The ProSet
K2 is only sold through Elecraft AFAIK.

ALL ProSet K2s have an electret element.  That is why you need bias
turned on in the K3 and for the K2 the bias resistor at the microphone
jack is needed.

All ProSets work nicely with the K3.  If it is the ProSet K2 or the
ProSet iC, then bias needs to be on, but for the others bias should be
off.  They can be plugged into the front mic jack with a Kenwood
adapter, or plugged into the rear panel jacks with no adapter required.

73,
Don W3FPR

N1JM wrote:

> I have an older Pro Set K2 which I 'm quite certain has a Heil HC5 element in
> it. I noticed the new one has a iC element. I dont think there is anything
> special about it other than the mic adapter is wired for the Elecraft front
> panel, otherwise it's a Pro Set. On the K3, you can plug the mic/headset
> connectors directly in the back without an adapter.
>
>
>
> Larry - K2GN wrote:
>  
>> My Heil Pro Set is old and getting beatup.
>> I'm beenn going to sent it to the Heil Hospital to get it refur'ed'
>> But then I saw the Pro Set K2 on the web site.
>> Any body using one on a K3,  as well?
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> de K2GN/Larry
>> K3 - S/N 3278
>>    
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Re: Elecraft

Evert Bakker (PA2KW)
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Larry,

If your ears go beyond 16 Kc, you won't be pleased.

73's, Evert PA2KW



But then I saw the Pro Set K2 on the web site.
Any body using one on a K3,  as well?

de K2GN/Larry
K3 - S/N 3278

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Re: Elecraft & Pro Set K2

Larry - K2GN
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Thanks to those that replied to my question.

One more question:
Does the Mic sound like a Heil HC4 or HC5?
I'll be using it for Dxing and contesting.
Not rag chewing.

Thanks again.
de K2GN/Larry
K3 - S/N 3278

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TX audio settings

AD4C2009
For the ones who might be interested,I have created 6 MP3 audio files testing in my K3 the following mics:
Kenwood MC-43S
Elecraft MH-2
Audio Tecnica ATR-30
On these clips you will be able to hear the difference between them with ragchewing or dx/contesing audio,also I included a word document with all my settings to create those audio clips.
With pleasure I am willing to share with you,just send me a direct email off the group and I will reply with a zip.73
 
AD4C
 


"For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3"

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From: Larry - K2GN <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft & Pro Set K2
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Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 12:55 AM


Thanks to those that replied to my question.

One more question:
Does the Mic sound like a Heil HC4 or HC5?
I'll be using it for Dxing and contesting.
Not rag chewing.

Thanks again.
de K2GN/Larry
K3 - S/N 3278

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Re: Elecraft & Pro Set K2

Don Wilhelm-4
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Larry,

I believe the relative frequency response of the ProSet K2 is close to
that of the HC5 element (but about 10 dB higher level).

For contesting, one can use the K3 TX EQ to customize for a more narrow
response approaching that of the HC-4.  Listen to your signal and adjust
until it "sounds the way you want it".

73,
Don W3FPR

Larry - K2GN wrote:

> Thanks to those that replied to my question.
>
> One more question:
> Does the Mic sound like a Heil HC4 or HC5?
> I'll be using it for Dxing and contesting.
> Not rag chewing.
>
> Thanks again.
> de K2GN/Larry
> K3 - S/N 3278
>  
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Re: Elecraft

N5GE
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:53:20 +0100, "Evert Bakker \(PA2KW\)"
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>Larry,
>
>If your ears go beyond 16 Kc, you won't be pleased.
>
>73's, Evert PA2KW
>
[snip]

Good headphones designed for communications shouldn't even go that
high.

I have my hearing aids (which have 4 settings) peaked at 400Hz for CW
in setting #4.

73,

Tom, N5GE

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Re: Elecraft

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YEs, I am and very good it is too
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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On 7 Nov 2009, at 18:15, Larry - K2GN wrote:

> My Heil Pro Set is old and getting beatup.
> I'm beenn going to sent it to the Heil Hospital to get it refur'ed'
> But then I saw the Pro Set K2 on the web site.
> Any body using one on a K3,  as well?

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Re: Elecraft

Evert Bakker (PA2KW)
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Hi Tom,

--- Good headphones designed for communications shouldn't even go that
high. ---

May be you are (should be) correct. But my Heil Pro does as I do hear these
high tones coming through.

Just an example; when using SSB (MON =2) 30% of the time I clearly hear a
"tune" of high frequency (must be somewhere around 16 Kc if I compare it
with the line transformers in old TV sets) when in TX mode. It looks like a
lottery when pushing the PTT, it's there or not.

In an earlier message (must be months ago) I stated that I do hear high
frequency components on each signal (SSB and CW) which is above S3 and they
are related to the signals received.
The high component which I'm talking about can't be influenced (volume and
tone) by the RX-EQ so it looks like an uncontrolled side-effect.

So my conclusion;
It's either coming from the K3 and totally independent from the headphones
used, or it's the combination K3 - Heil Pro set, or it's an oscillation
between my ears initiated by lids on the band (don't take the last one to
serious).

(un)fortunately most hams can't hear above 10 Kc if we look at the average
age and the given statistics. So they won't notice these artifacts.

Yes I do have an old headphone (no mic included) from Telex which doesn't
produce or show this effect. Either the combi K3 - Telex doesn't generate
the high frequency components or the Telex isn't able to make it audible.

With this knowledge, and your question about the Heil I can do two things:
Say nothing or warn you just in case you are able to hear above 10 Kc.


BTW
Let me be clear, I do have 2 K3's, (SN0812 & SN2185, both have the same
issue) but I'm still very happy with them! Receiver performance and audio
are the most important points for me, not the bells and the whistles. I hope
this audio issue will be solved once and the K3 will be perfect (for me).
Some issues will be solved, some never. Nothing is perfect, but the K3 comes
close.

Do whatever you like with this information, it is just my experience and
opinion

73's, Evert PA2KW

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Re: Elecraft

pd0psb
Evert,

There's a small LPF board in betatest phase which cuts off anything above K3's passband.
May be you can ask Elecraft to test a sample.
Especially people with good hearing (congrats, you are an exeption nowadays :-) can benefit form this board. It's a 24db/oct chebychev with low noise opamp that doesnt have any coloration in-passband.

As a quick solution you could also try 2 elco's over the HP outputs, I tried 4,7 or 10uF.
This will give a 6db/oct roll off.

I've read the LPF filterboard might become generally available someday for people wishing to clear the above-passband products.

73'
Paul
PD0PSB


Evert Bakker (PA2KW) wrote
Hi Tom,

--- Good headphones designed for communications shouldn't even go that
high. ---

May be you are (should be) correct. But my Heil Pro does as I do hear these
high tones coming through.

Just an example; when using SSB (MON =2) 30% of the time I clearly hear a
"tune" of high frequency (must be somewhere around 16 Kc if I compare it
with the line transformers in old TV sets) when in TX mode. It looks like a
lottery when pushing the PTT, it's there or not.

In an earlier message (must be months ago) I stated that I do hear high
frequency components on each signal (SSB and CW) which is above S3 and they
are related to the signals received.
The high component which I'm talking about can't be influenced (volume and
tone) by the RX-EQ so it looks like an uncontrolled side-effect.

So my conclusion;
It's either coming from the K3 and totally independent from the headphones
used, or it's the combination K3 - Heil Pro set, or it's an oscillation
between my ears initiated by lids on the band (don't take the last one to
serious).

(un)fortunately most hams can't hear above 10 Kc if we look at the average
age and the given statistics. So they won't notice these artifacts.

Yes I do have an old headphone (no mic included) from Telex which doesn't
produce or show this effect. Either the combi K3 - Telex doesn't generate
the high frequency components or the Telex isn't able to make it audible.

With this knowledge, and your question about the Heil I can do two things:
Say nothing or warn you just in case you are able to hear above 10 Kc.


BTW
Let me be clear, I do have 2 K3's, (SN0812 & SN2185, both have the same
issue) but I'm still very happy with them! Receiver performance and audio
are the most important points for me, not the bells and the whistles. I hope
this audio issue will be solved once and the K3 will be perfect (for me).
Some issues will be solved, some never. Nothing is perfect, but the K3 comes
close.

Do whatever you like with this information, it is just my experience and
opinion

73's, Evert PA2KW

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