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MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26

.k8dd.-2
I was wondering about the reports of maximum volume audio reports on the
latest firmware.
For the "Everybody Loves Raymond" fans - Frank's famous line sums it up:
     "Holy Crap"
During sending an exchange in the TN QSO Party - pure noise, loud and no
signals.  Lost the QSO, almost broke the boom mike getting the headset
off, spilled beer on the keyboard (but I have a couple spares) and
couldn't hear for a few minutes.
Loaded my last beta.
73    Hank    K8DD

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MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26

AD4C2009
My upgrade to the latest FW 3.30 and DSP 2.26 was smooth and easy as
all the other Beta ones and it works perfect,no distorsion,audio is
practically the same level in all the NR settings and in some of them
the noise is totally wiped out sounding as FM,nothing wrong on mine
here.

AD4C
K3 # 2192

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Subject: [Elecraft] MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26
To: "'Elecraft_List'" <[hidden email]>
Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 3:47 AM

I was wondering about the reports of maximum volume audio reports on the
latest firmware.
For the "Everybody Loves Raymond" fans - Frank's famous line sums it up:
     "Holy Crap"
During sending an exchange in the TN QSO Party - pure noise, loud and no
signals.  Lost the QSO, almost broke the boom mike getting the headset
off, spilled beer on the keyboard (but I have a couple spares) and
couldn't hear for a few minutes.
Loaded my last beta.
73    Hank    K8DD

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Re: MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26

John-483
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At 09:47 PM 06/09/09, you wrote:
>spilled beer on the keyboard (but I have a couple spares)

referring to beers I hope.

k7up


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Re: MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26

.k8dd.-2
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That's what I thought too - good upgrade ..... maybe it just has not
happened to you yet!

73     Hank    K8DD


Hector Padron wrote:

> My upgrade to the latest FW 3.30 and DSP 2.26 was smooth and easy as all
> the other Beta ones and it works perfect,no distorsion,audio is
> practically the same level in all the NR settings and in some of them
> the noise is totally wiped out sounding as FM,nothing wrong on mine here.
>
> AD4C
> K3 # 2192
>
> "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its
> limits". -- Albert Einstein
>
> --- On *Mon, 9/7/09, .k8dd. /<[hidden email]>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: .k8dd. <[hidden email]>
>     Subject: [Elecraft] MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26
>     To: "'Elecraft_List'" <[hidden email]>
>     Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 3:47 AM
>
>     I was wondering about the reports of maximum volume audio reports on
>     the
>     latest firmware.
>     For the "Everybody Loves Raymond" fans - Frank's famous line sums it up:
>          "Holy Crap"
>     During sending an exchange in the TN QSO Party - pure noise, loud
>     and no
>     signals.  Lost the QSO, almost broke the boom mike getting the headset
>     off, spilled beer on the keyboard (but I have a couple spares) and
>     couldn't hear for a few minutes.
>     Loaded my last beta.
>     73    Hank    K8DD
>
>    
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Re: MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26

.k8dd.-2
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John wrote:
> At 09:47 PM 06/09/09, you wrote:
>> spilled beer on the keyboard (but I have a couple spares)
>
> referring to beers I hope.
>
> k7up
>

Fortunately both.

73    Hank    K8DD

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Re: MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26

Bill Maddock-2
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Fix needed?
 
This happened to me during the TN QSO party - I was on 80 cw trying to adjust
the antenna tuner when it hit - it was loud - no volume control, no signals - Thank
God I wasn't running my headset  thought it was going to blow the speaker.
I shut rig off and turned it back on and proceeded with my QSO! Doesn't appear
to be any long term affect? This happened on my first K3 - was running
SO1R
 
73 de Bill  N4ZI  K3 # 1059 & K3 #2914

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Subject: [Elecraft] MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26
To: "'Elecraft_List'" <[hidden email]>
Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 10:47 PM


I was wondering about the reports of maximum volume audio reports on the
latest firmware.
For the "Everybody Loves Raymond" fans - Frank's famous line sums it up:
     "Holy Crap"
During sending an exchange in the TN QSO Party - pure noise, loud and no
signals.  Lost the QSO, almost broke the boom mike getting the headset
off, spilled beer on the keyboard (but I have a couple spares) and
couldn't hear for a few minutes.
Loaded my last beta.
73    Hank    K8DD

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Re: MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26

AD4C2009
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Well its been a week installed and using the radio daily has nothing
wrong,the fact that it happened to you don't mean that will happen to
us.

AD4C

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26
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Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 8:57 AM

That's what I thought too - good upgrade ..... maybe it just has not happened to you yet!

73     Hank    K8DD


Hector Padron wrote:

> My upgrade to the latest FW 3.30 and DSP 2.26 was smooth and easy as all the other Beta ones and it works perfect,no distorsion,audio is practically the same level in all the NR settings and in some of them the noise is totally wiped out sounding as FM,nothing wrong on mine here.
>
> AD4C
> K3 # 2192
>
> "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits". -- Albert Einstein
>
> --- On *Mon, 9/7/09, .k8dd. /<[hidden email]>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: .k8dd. <[hidden email]>
>     Subject: [Elecraft] MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26
>     To: "'Elecraft_List'" <[hidden email]>
>     Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 3:47 AM
>
>     I was wondering about the reports of maximum volume audio reports on
>     the
>     latest firmware.
>     For the "Everybody Loves Raymond" fans - Frank's famous line sums it up:
>          "Holy Crap"
>     During sending an exchange in the TN QSO Party - pure noise, loud
>     and no
>     signals.  Lost the QSO, almost broke the boom mike getting the headset
>     off, spilled beer on the keyboard (but I have a couple spares) and
>     couldn't hear for a few minutes.
>     Loaded my last beta.
>     73    Hank    K8DD
>
>   


     
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Re: MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26

allenrw1955
Make sure you CC [hidden email] when you have issues to be sure
someone see the problem.
I was one of the first people to report this same issue with the last
revision of the beta and on my second post I included support which
elicited a response on the weekend and they started working on it then.
I have not had this happen since I downloaded MCU 3.30 / DSP 2.26 , and
yesterday I spent sometime seeing if it would happen, didn't come close
to doing at least as far as I could tell by listening to the rig, before
the loud, uncontrolled noise was preceded by distinctive audio that
sounded like cadisflies ( moderately high frequency oscillation), none
this time.
 Speeds up the process you know and it is a process, thats why it is
called a beta release.
Sure stinks when it happens though and you are wearing the headset.
Almost sounds like a feedback loop but is that possible with a digital
radio?
Bob
KB1FRW
 
Hector Padron wrote:

> Well its been a week installed and using the radio daily has nothing
> wrong,the fact that it happened to you don't mean that will happen to
> us.
>
> AD4C
>
> "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits". -- Albert Einstein
>
> --- On Mon, 9/7/09, .k8dd. <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> From: .k8dd. <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26
> To: "Hector Padron" <[hidden email]>, "'Elecraft_List'" <[hidden email]>
> Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 8:57 AM
>
> That's what I thought too - good upgrade ..... maybe it just has not happened to you yet!
>
> 73     Hank    K8DD
>
>
> Hector Padron wrote:
>  
>> My upgrade to the latest FW 3.30 and DSP 2.26 was smooth and easy as all the other Beta ones and it works perfect,no distorsion,audio is practically the same level in all the NR settings and in some of them the noise is totally wiped out sounding as FM,nothing wrong on mine here.
>>
>> AD4C
>> K3 # 2192
>>
>> "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits". -- Albert Einstein
>>
>> --- On *Mon, 9/7/09, .k8dd. /<[hidden email]>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>>      From: .k8dd. <[hidden email]>
>>      Subject: [Elecraft] MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26
>>      To: "'Elecraft_List'" <[hidden email]>
>>      Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 3:47 AM
>>
>>      I was wondering about the reports of maximum volume audio reports on
>>      the
>>      latest firmware.
>>      For the "Everybody Loves Raymond" fans - Frank's famous line sums it up:
>>           "Holy Crap"
>>      During sending an exchange in the TN QSO Party - pure noise, loud
>>      and no
>>      signals.  Lost the QSO, almost broke the boom mike getting the headset
>>      off, spilled beer on the keyboard (but I have a couple spares) and
>>      couldn't hear for a few minutes.
>>      Loaded my last beta.
>>      73    Hank    K8DD
>>
>>    
>>    
>
>
>      
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Re: MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26

.k8dd.-2
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You're right - the 3.30/2.26 NR, although it is slow, it is really good
once you find the setting that works best for the situation.  And
although it cannot be readily duplicated, it is still a problem that
would most likely cause those who have had it happen to see it as a
major problem,
and not use that MCU/DSP set.  I know it has changed my thoughts on
trying the "latest & greatest" beta firmware!

73    Hank    K8DD


K9ZTV wrote:

> The NR on SSB is spectacular in the latest version with no volume
> problems.  By the way, the original poster says he has been unable to
> duplicate the problem, nor can Lyle.
>
> Kent  K9ZTV
>
>
>
> .k8dd. wrote:
>> I was wondering about the reports of maximum volume audio reports on the
>> latest firmware.
>> For the "Everybody Loves Raymond" fans - Frank's famous line sums it up:
>>      "Holy Crap"
>> During sending an exchange in the TN QSO Party - pure noise, loud and no
>> signals.  Lost the QSO, almost broke the boom mike getting the headset
>> off, spilled beer on the keyboard (but I have a couple spares) and
>> couldn't hear for a few minutes.
>> Loaded my last beta.
>> 73    Hank    K8DD
>>

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Re: MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26

Ted Roycraft
Yeah, I guess that sometimes we forget what the role of a beta tester
is.  It's not to be the first one to have the new software.  When you
are a beta tester, which you are if you load beta software, your role
and responsibility is to report problems and not to complain about
them.  No software, newly written, is bug free and sometimes those bugs
can be downright annoying but that's what beta testers are for.

73, Ted, W2ZK

.k8dd. wrote:

> You're right - the 3.30/2.26 NR, although it is slow, it is really good
> once you find the setting that works best for the situation.  And
> although it cannot be readily duplicated, it is still a problem that
> would most likely cause those who have had it happen to see it as a
> major problem,
> and not use that MCU/DSP set.  I know it has changed my thoughts on
> trying the "latest & greatest" beta firmware!
>
> 73    Hank    K8DD
>
>
> K9ZTV wrote:
>  
>> The NR on SSB is spectacular in the latest version with no volume
>> problems.  By the way, the original poster says he has been unable to
>> duplicate the problem, nor can Lyle.
>>
>> Kent  K9ZTV
>>
>>
>>
>> .k8dd. wrote:
>>    
>>> I was wondering about the reports of maximum volume audio reports on the
>>> latest firmware.
>>> For the "Everybody Loves Raymond" fans - Frank's famous line sums it up:
>>>      "Holy Crap"
>>> During sending an exchange in the TN QSO Party - pure noise, loud and no
>>> signals.  Lost the QSO, almost broke the boom mike getting the headset
>>> off, spilled beer on the keyboard (but I have a couple spares) and
>>> couldn't hear for a few minutes.
>>> Loaded my last beta.
>>> 73    Hank    K8DD
>>>
>>>      
>
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MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26 and Loud Noises

KK7P
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If anyone experiences a "loud noise blast" from your K3 when running the
latest Beta code, it would help us immensely if you could supply the
following information:


1) Was NR in use?

2) If so, what was the NR setting (NR ADJ value)

3) Does the noise go away if NR is turned off?

4) What were your AGC Threshold and Slope settings? (CONFIG:AGC THR and
CONFIG AGC SLP)

5) Band, mode, roofing filter?


Please accept my apologies for this.  Believe me, I *want* to find the
gremlin! Why else would I be asking about this on a holiday weekend?

Thank you for your patience with helping test this K3 Beta code,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26 and Loud Noises

DAVID M. Elliott
Lyle,

Most of us understand that we are beta testers and what our  
responsibilities in that role are.

We appreciate what you are doing and I will repeat again that the new  
NR function is awesome -- better than anything else out there by a lot.

We are all anxious to help solve the noise problem.

In my case, the noise blast was preceded by a period of time (several  
minutes) when the volume control did not work.  I had it turned to  
minimum and could still hear the signals at normal volume.  When I  
tried to fix that by twiddling the volume control and/or adjusting the  
NR settings, the noise blast happened.

Thanks again for working on the holiday weekend.

73 de W6BK


On Sep 7, 2009, at 8:41 AM, Lyle Johnson wrote:

> If anyone experiences a "loud noise blast" from your K3 when running  
> the
> latest Beta code, it would help us immensely if you could supply the
> following information:
>
>
> 1) Was NR in use?
>
> 2) If so, what was the NR setting (NR ADJ value)
>
> 3) Does the noise go away if NR is turned off?
>
> 4) What were your AGC Threshold and Slope settings? (CONFIG:AGC THR  
> and
> CONFIG AGC SLP)
>
> 5) Band, mode, roofing filter?
>
>
> Please accept my apologies for this.  Believe me, I *want* to find the
> gremlin! Why else would I be asking about this on a holiday weekend?
>
> Thank you for your patience with helping test this K3 Beta code,
>
> Lyle KK7P
>
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Re: MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26 and Loud Noises

NZ0T

 Lyle, it has happened to me once after upgrading to 3.30/2.26.  My AGC settings were at default and I did not have the NR on.  I was on CW with my 500hz roofing filter engaged as FL2.  When I pushed the filter button to go back to FL1 the noise blast hit.  

73, Bill nz0t