Mike,
Just sent you a PM. Jim AL7BA -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of [hidden email] Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2019 12:29 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Elecraft Digest, Vol 184, Issue 9 Send Elecraft mailing list submissions to [hidden email] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [hidden email] You can reach the person managing the list at [hidden email] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Elecraft digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Astron RS-50M Linear Power Supply ***SOLD*** (Phil Hystad) 2. K3 Weighted Knobs (Robie Elms) 3. Re: KX3 ATU Not Tuning (Kevin McQuiggin (SFU)) 4. Dedicated FTx Rig (David Gilbert) 5. KANT3 and SSB/CW filters needed (Mike Short) 6. Re: Dedicated FTx Rig (Dave Fugleberg) 7. Want to move to a KXPA100 w/ATU; ACOM 1010 for sale or trade (Bob Younger) 8. Re: KX3 ATU Not Tuning (rich hurd WC3T) 9. Re: KX3 ATU Not Tuning (Aaron) 10. Re: Dedicated FTx Rig (Vic Rosenthal) 11. Re: Dedicated FTx Rig (Brian Hunt) 12. Re: Dedicated FTx Rig (Brian Hunt) 13. Re: Dedicated FTx Rig (kevinr) 14. Elecraft CW Net Announcement (kevinr) 15. Re: Dedicated FTx Rig (David Gilbert) 16. Re: Dedicated FTx Rig (Barry) 17. Dedicated FTx Rig (John Harper) 18. Re: Dedicated FTx Rig (Bill Frantz) 19. MH4 Mic For Sale (Michael Raskin) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 12:14:16 -0700 From: Phil Hystad <[hidden email]> To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Astron RS-50M Linear Power Supply ***SOLD*** Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 This Astron RS-50M has been SOLD. > On Aug 10, 2019, at 8:33 AM, Phil Hystad via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I am selling my Astron RS-50M Linear Power Supply but prefer to sell locally (Greater Seattle Area) rather than box up and ship it so prefer some kind of local pickup (or, delivery if not too far out of my way). > > It is in perfect condition except for the meter back lights are burned out. I have owned a number of these Astrons and for some reason this always happens. My other Astron supply does not have lights in the meters either however I never do look at those meters so for me it was no big deal ? lights aren?t needed anyway to read the meter. No dents or scratches on the cabinet that I know of ? in fact, I don?t think it has ever been moved once I put it in place about 8 years ago. > > I also built a nice wooden table that the power supply sits upon. It is designed to allow airflow underneath from underneath. The table is sized to provide a height of the power supply underneath my table I use for operating. This table is offered as a free gift to the buyer if they want it. > > This power supply retails for something above $300 depending on where you buy it. I am offering it at $150. No dents or scratches on the panel that I know of. > > If interested, let me know by e-mail. > > 73, phil, K7PEH > [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> > QTH: Kirkland, WA ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 14:19:31 -0500 From: Robie Elms <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Weighted Knobs Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have a pair of weighted knobs for a K3. One for VFO A & one for VFO B. I believe these are CQDX.RU knobs. They are steel, coated (black), with silver inserts. The VFO A knob has a finger dimple. Photos upon request. $140 + shipping. I take PayPal. Robie - AJ4F ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 13:35:54 -0700 From: "Kevin McQuiggin (SFU)" <[hidden email]> To: rich hurd WC3T <[hidden email]> Cc: Aaron <[hidden email]>, [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 ATU Not Tuning Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Low batteries can also prevent accurate ATU operation, in my experience. The ATU will do the best it can but can?t find a good match. Fresh batteries or a switch to external power will help. 73, Kevin Sent from my iPad > On Aug 10, 2019, at 12:03, rich hurd WC3T <[hidden email]> wrote: > > From what I?ve read, you have an open circuit to the antenna. Feedline > okay? I had a marginal feedline and had to replace it. > > I also had a bad BNC cable that deformed the connector on the side of the > KX3 and had to replace it as well. > >> On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 12:29 Aaron <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> I have a KX3 with the ATU installed. I replaced the batteries and since >> then the ATU will not tune. When I hit the ATU TUNE button it just says >> 25.4-1 and I can hear the relays going off. I opened it back up and >> for any cables not connected or anything and it looked all fine to me but I >> could have missed something. It was working just fine before the battery >> switch. >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] >> > -- > 72, > Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737 > Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting > Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988 (40?45.68' N 75?17.33' W) Grid: > *FN20is* > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 13:40:40 -0700 From: David Gilbert <[hidden email]> To: Elecraft <[hidden email]> Subject: [Elecraft] Dedicated FTx Rig Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed I'm certain this is not an original idea, but I wonder if somebody will ever come out with a dedicated all-in-one notebook-sized portable rig for the FT-type digital modes.? I'm pretty new to FT8/4 but I find it interesting that when I'm operating it all I ever do with my K3 is turn it on and make band changes since everything else is done on my computer.? I wouldn't even need to do that much on the K3 if WSJT-X had a button to make band changes. Possibly such a unit might look like: 1.? 12 volt operation (10 watts output) for portable use 2.? large enough screen to be practical 3.? running modified (mouseless) version of WSJT-X? to allow up/down arrow keys for: ? ? a.? band selection ??? b.? frequency change in 2 KHz increments ??? c.? mode selection ??? d.? contact selection from activity window ??? e.? TX1-TX6 sequence override ??? f.?? transmit enable/disable 4.? a button to momentarily press for log, press/hold to autolog 5.? USB port to run modified WSJT-X from flash drive for easy upgrade and log transfer 6.? internal antenna tuner (could be manual) 7.? etc. Rigs dedicated to specific modes have never been very popular, but I suspect that FTx might change that and I suspect an integrated low power SDR version could end up being fairly inexpensive.? A side advantage is that audio levels would be preset in hardware and we'd see less overdrive situations.? ;) Anybody know if there is already something like this out there?? I can find small inexpensive transceivers designed for FT8, but they still require a separate computer. Just some ramblings on a rainy day ... 73, Dave?? AB7E ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 16:50:46 -0500 From: Mike Short <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] KANT3 and SSB/CW filters needed Message-ID: <CAL7rsnHhRd5ySFryPeqfTx1V1ho+Dfuzs6X60=[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I need a KANT3 and SSB and CW filters. I have a project K3 I am working on. Mike AI4NS On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 14:07 <[hidden email]> wrote: > Send Elecraft mailing list submissions to > [hidden email] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [hidden email] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [hidden email] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Elecraft digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. KX2 TX "Sticks On" in FT8? (MaverickNH) > 2. Re: KX2 TX "Sticks On" in FT8? (Stephan Forth) > 3. Re: KX2 TX "Sticks On" in FT8? (Jim Rhodes) > 4. K3S Frequency Calibration Issue (John Stengrevics) > 5. Re: KX2 TX "Sticks On" in FT8? (MaverickNH) > 6. Re: KX2 TX "Sticks On" in FT8? (Jim Rhodes) > 7. Re: K3S Frequency Calibration Issue (Greg Troxel) > 8. KXPD3 for sale (Jim Leder) > 9. Re: K2 - Lost 40m Tx after install of K60XV option (Neil Zampella) > 10. Re: K3S Frequency Calibration Issue (Bob McGraw K4TAX) > 11. Re: KX2 TX "Sticks On" in FT8? (Keith N6JPA) > 12. Re: KX2 TX "Sticks On" in FT8? (Bob McGraw K4TAX) > 13. Re: KX2 TX "Sticks On" in FT8? (MaverickNH) > 14. Re: KX2 TX "Sticks On" in FT8? (Don Wilhelm) > 15. Re: KX2 TX "Sticks On" in FT8? (Jim Brown) > 16. Re: KX2 TX "Sticks On" in FT8? (MaverickNH) > 17. Re: KX2 TX "Sticks On" in FT8? (Don Wilhelm) > 18. Re: KX2 TX "Sticks On" in FT8? (Timothy Elwell) > 19. Want to trade: Elecraft KXPA w/ATU for my ACOM 1010 (Bob Younger) > 20. Weighted Knobs for Main and VFO B (Michael Raskin) > 21. Elecraft P3 with SVGA for sale (Craig Bradley) > 22. K3/0 Mini (Michael Marx) > 23. FS: K3 (s*) 100w + P3 Package (Pete Meier) > 24. Re: Weighted Knobs for Main and VFO B (Ned Mountain WC4X) > 25. K3 knobs are sold (Michael Raskin) > 26. FS: Astron RS-50M Linear Power Supply (Phil Hystad) > 27. Elecraft P3 with SVGA for sale (Craig Bradley) > 28. KX3 ATU Not Tuning (Aaron) > 29. Re: KX3 ATU Not Tuning (rich hurd WC3T) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 04:32:26 -0700 (MST) > From: MaverickNH <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 TX "Sticks On" in FT8? > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > While running FT8 on my KX2/KXPA100, the TX red LED will sometimes stay on > and the FT8 waterfall shows blank (like when TXing). ALC is stuck on 1 Bar > when I've got it set 4-5 Bars. If I click Tune in WSJT-X once or twice I > see > the 4-5 Bars ALC and then all returns to normal. > > Is TX being "Stuck On" my KX2 or WSJT-X acting up? Using Win 10 and a > Soundblaster Play! 3 USB audio adaptor. > > Bret/N4SRN > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 14:01:20 +0200 (CEST) > From: Stephan Forth <[hidden email]> > To: MaverickNH <[hidden email]>, [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 TX "Sticks On" in FT8? > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi > > I had the same problem. I turned down the volume slider on the computer a > little and the LED went out and the KX2 was in receive mode again. > I don't know why. Vox was turned off. > > 73 Stephan, DF6PA > > Using Raspberry and MiniProSC Audio adapter. PTT handled by CAT control. > > > MaverickNH <[hidden email]> hat am 9. August 2019 um 13:32 > geschrieben: > > > > > > While running FT8 on my KX2/KXPA100, the TX red LED will sometimes stay > on > > and the FT8 waterfall shows blank (like when TXing). ALC is stuck on 1 > Bar > > when I've got it set 4-5 Bars. If I click Tune in WSJT-X once or twice I > see > > the 4-5 Bars ALC and then all returns to normal. > > > > Is TX being "Stuck On" my KX2 or WSJT-X acting up? Using Win 10 and a > > Soundblaster Play! 3 USB audio adaptor. > > > > Bret/N4SRN > > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 07:09:24 -0500 > From: Jim Rhodes <[hidden email]> > To: Stephan Forth <[hidden email]> > Cc: [hidden email], MaverickNH <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 TX "Sticks On" in FT8? > Message-ID: > < > [hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > This was one of the problems I was having. Mostly on 40. I ended up > 3 turns of the transmit audio line through a random snap on ferrite I > happened to have in the bag. The hangup stopped and alc settled down to a > stable value instead of jumping around. > > Jim Rhodes > K0XU > > On Fri, Aug 9, 2019, 07:02 Stephan Forth <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > Hi > > > > I had the same problem. I turned down the volume slider on the computer > > little and the LED went out and the KX2 was in receive mode again. > > I don't know why. Vox was turned off. > > > > 73 Stephan, DF6PA > > > > Using Raspberry and MiniProSC Audio adapter. PTT handled by CAT control. > > > > > MaverickNH <[hidden email]> hat am 9. August 2019 um 13:32 > > geschrieben: > > > > > > > > > While running FT8 on my KX2/KXPA100, the TX red LED will sometimes > > on > > > and the FT8 waterfall shows blank (like when TXing). ALC is stuck on 1 > > Bar > > > when I've got it set 4-5 Bars. If I click Tune in WSJT-X once or twice > I > > see > > > the 4-5 Bars ALC and then all returns to normal. > > > > > > Is TX being "Stuck On" my KX2 or WSJT-X acting up? Using Win 10 and a > > > Soundblaster Play! 3 USB audio adaptor. > > > > > > Bret/N4SRN > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > Elecraft mailing list > > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 08:14:02 -0400 > From: John Stengrevics <[hidden email]> > To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]> > Subject: [Elecraft] K3S Frequency Calibration Issue > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I have followed the calibration procedure in the manual (WWV as I don?t > have a frequency generator). On 50 MHz, I am spot on. However, on 2 > meters, I am off by 1 KHz. > > I have recently replaced the TCXO, so I don?t believe that is the cause. > > Any suggestions as to how I can get 2 meters to agree? > > 73, > > John > WA1EAZ > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 05:21:24 -0700 (MST) > From: MaverickNH <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 TX "Sticks On" in FT8? > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I've got 2 Mix31 ferrite beads with 4 winds each on my SOTAbeams > 40/30/20 coax feed, another before the coax feeds the KXPA100 and another > just before the KX2 - as well as ferrites on power cords and audio/CAT > cables connecting the rig. If that's not enough - ouch! > > BRET/N4SRN > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 07:45:06 -0500 > From: Jim Rhodes <[hidden email]> > To: MaverickNH <[hidden email]> > Cc: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 TX "Sticks On" in FT8? > Message-ID: > < > [hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > The problem here just came about on this temporary lication (temporary > area), I have not had the problem before. There is not much space in the > yard area at the little apartment that I am living in for the summer. And I > just had this random bead laying in the bag with other odds and ends. I am > glad it was there though as it has kept me on the air. > > > Jim Rhodes > K0XU > > On Fri, Aug 9, 2019, 07:22 MaverickNH <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > I've got 2 Mix31 ferrite beads with 4 winds each on my SOTAbeams > Bandhopper > > 40/30/20 coax feed, another before the coax feeds the KXPA100 and > > just before the KX2 - as well as ferrites on power cords and audio/CAT > > cables connecting the rig. If that's not enough - ouch! > > > > BRET/N4SRN > > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2019 08:55:17 -0400 > From: Greg Troxel <[hidden email]> > To: John Stengrevics <[hidden email]> > Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Frequency Calibration Issue > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > John Stengrevics <[hidden email]> writes: > > > I have followed the calibration procedure in the manual (WWV as I > > don?t have a frequency generator). On 50 MHz, I am spot on. However, > > on 2 meters, I am off by 1 KHz. > > Without a calibrated signal generator (or generator and calibrated > counter), how are you measuring this? > > > Any suggestions as to how I can get 2 meters to agree? > > To agree with what, and how do you know it's right? > > It would help if you explained more precisely what you did. I'm > guessing you used 15 MHz WWV, but then what are you doing on 50 and 144 > MHz to measure? Did you measure 28 MHz? What are you measuring > against? How is that calibrated, and how do you know it is correct? > > (Also, I am unclear on how the 144 Mhz option works, but that's > important to understand.) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 14:00:58 +0000 > From: Jim Leder <[hidden email]> > To: Elecraft <[hidden email]> > Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD3 for sale > Message-ID: > < > om > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > KXPD3 has been sold. > > Jim Leder ? K8CXM > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 10:13:24 -0400 > From: Neil Zampella <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 - Lost 40m Tx after install of K60XV option > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Thanks to all who sent advice ...? Don (as usual) steered me in the > right direction. > > I need to replace the K1 relay as I accidentally touched it when > removing the RF Board C6 capacitor for the K60XV installation. Didn't > think much at the time, but definitely bit me in the tail here. > > Neil, KN3ILZ > > On 8/5/2019 7:43 PM, Neil Zampella wrote: > > Don, > > > > I don't see 60M working either.??? I'll check these tomorrow after work. > > > > Neil > > > > On 8/5/2019 2:20 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > >> Neil, > >> > >> Does 60 meters work, but not 40 meters? > >> > >> The only things that could 40 meters to fail after installing the > >> K60XV are: > >> > >> 1) C6 is not the correct 4.7 pF value - it will be marked either 4.7 > >> or 479. > >> > >> 2) Relay K1 not working properly, check the orientation and soldering. > >> 3) P2 and/or RF J15 not installed properly. > >> > >> 73, > >> Don W3FPR > >> > >> On 8/5/2019 11:14 AM, Neil Zampella wrote: > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> need some advice.?? I have a K2, and it was working fine. Then I put > >>> together the K60XV option and installed it.?? Messed something up as > >>> 40M > >>> Tx went away.??? The rig switches to Tx, but I do not see any power > >>> coming out of the system. > >>> > >> > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 09:25:19 -0500 > From: Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Frequency Calibration Issue > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > See XNn OFS on page 68 of the manual.? This compensates fro > oscillator/multiplier errors. > > 73 > > Bob, K4TAX > > > On 8/9/2019 7:55 AM, Greg Troxel wrote: > > John Stengrevics <[hidden email]> writes: > > > >> I have followed the calibration procedure in the manual (WWV as I > >> don?t have a frequency generator). On 50 MHz, I am spot on. However, > >> on 2 meters, I am off by 1 KHz. > > Without a calibrated signal generator (or generator and calibrated > > counter), how are you measuring this? > > > >> Any suggestions as to how I can get 2 meters to agree? > > To agree with what, and how do you know it's right? > > > > It would help if you explained more precisely what you did. I'm > > guessing you used 15 MHz WWV, but then what are you doing on 50 and 144 > > MHz to measure? Did you measure 28 MHz? What are you measuring > > against? How is that calibrated, and how do you know it is correct? > > > > (Also, I am unclear on how the 144 Mhz option works, but that's > > important to understand.) > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2019 07:27:05 -0700 > From: Keith N6JPA <[hidden email]> > To: MaverickNH <[hidden email]> > Cc: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 TX "Sticks On" in FT8? > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Fri, 9 Aug 2019 04:32:26 -0700 (MST), you wrote: > > >ALC is stuck on 1 Bar > > > Read this document discussing ALC use with FT-8 and elecraft radios. > > <https://www.g4ifb.com/FT8_Hinson_tips_for_HF_DXers.pdf> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 10:28:12 -0500 > From: Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 TX "Sticks On" in FT8? > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > From my take, the radio is in transmit mode, the ALC is showing 1 bar > and stuck in transmit.? This to me says there is noise coming out of the > computer, even though WSJT-X is given the receive command.?? Somewhere > in this post I read that the OP reducing the computer slider eliminated > the issue.?? This again says there is / was noise coming out of the > computer causing the VOX in the interface, not the radio as the VOX was > off, to be tripped by the computer noise. > > There are multiple places where the audio level from the computer to the > radio can and must be adjusted correctly.? From experience, none of the > level adjustments should be at or near maximum and same for the minimum > audio level adjustments.? Strive for a mid range value of all > adjustments.??? The PWR slider on the WSJT-X screen is one of the 3 or 4 > audio level adjustments. > > As to Elecraft ALC, it is clearly different in behavior and indication > with regard to "other" radios. ? Do Not apply "other" radio methods for > the Elecraft radios. ? ? For Elecraft radios, the ALC indicator, to > which the first 4 bars are actually AUDIO LEVEL indication, thus are not > indicating ALC action.? The ALC takes place at or after the 5th bar.?? > For that reason, one should adjust the audio levels such that there are > 4 bars on solid and the 5th bar flickering on and off.? With the 5th bar > flickering, set the power output using the PWR control on the radio {not > on WSJT-X} and do not adjust any audio level. > > In the case of the K3S and maybe other radios, I find when using the > TUNE function from WSJT-X of 1500 Hz there seems to be a beat between > the tone and the display scan rate.? This produces a wildly fluctuation > in level appearance.? Change the TUNE tone to some value slightly higher > or lower and the issue will be resolved. > > For further reading, go to http://www.w3fpr.com/ > > and scroll on the left side down to: Setup Elecraft Radios for Data Modes. > > That link is:??? http://www.w3fpr.com/Data_setup.htm > > 73 > > Bob, K4TAX > > > On 8/9/2019 9:27 AM, Keith N6JPA wrote: > > On Fri, 9 Aug 2019 04:32:26 -0700 (MST), you wrote: > > > >> ALC is stuck on 1 Bar > > > > Read this document discussing ALC use with FT-8 and elecraft radios. > > > > <https://www.g4ifb.com/FT8_Hinson_tips_for_HF_DXers.pdf> > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 08:47:54 -0700 (MST) > From: MaverickNH <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 TX "Sticks On" in FT8? > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > While I had quite a few Mix31 beads on antenna coax and the various other > power, CAT and audio cables connecting my rig, it seems adding a few more > helped. I think it was a ferrite bead on the special cable set that > connects > the KXPA100 and KX2 that did the trick. RF leaking in somehow! > > While my base shack is all bonded to my AC panel ground, I'm running > "portable" with KX2/KPA100 on my deck and portable antennas in my back > while we're renovating. So I don't have a good bonding/ground > configuration. > Virtually none! > > BRET/N4SRN > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 10:58:56 -0400 > From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> > To: MaverickNH <[hidden email]>, [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 TX "Sticks On" in FT8? > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Bret, > > That sounds like noise, hum or buzz is getting into the audio cable > between your soundcard and the KX2. Try to find a metal connection on > you soundcard and run a heavy guage wire between that point and the > chassis of the KX2. Run another between the soundcard and the computer. > Often that bonding will help by routing the noise along the bonding > wire instead of the shield of the audio cable. > > Also check for the possibility of RF feedback - if it works OK with a > dummy load, the apply RF common mode chokes to the coax. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 8/9/2019 7:32 AM, MaverickNH wrote: > > While running FT8 on my KX2/KXPA100, the TX red LED will sometimes stay > on > > and the FT8 waterfall shows blank (like when TXing). ALC is stuck on 1 > Bar > > when I've got it set 4-5 Bars. If I click Tune in WSJT-X once or twice I > see > > the 4-5 Bars ALC and then all returns to normal. > > > > Is TX being "Stuck On" my KX2 or WSJT-X acting up? Using Win 10 and a > > Soundblaster Play! 3 USB audio adaptor. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 11:12:30 -0700 > From: Jim Brown <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 TX "Sticks On" in FT8? > Message-ID: > <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > On 8/9/2019 8:47 AM, MaverickNH wrote: > > While I had quite a few Mix31 beads on antenna coax and the various > > power, CAT and audio cables connecting my rig, it seems adding a few more > > helped. I think it was a ferrite bead on the special cable set that > connects > > the KXPA100 and KX2 that did the trick. RF leaking in somehow! > Mix #31 is useful on the HF bands ONLY if multiple turns are wound > through the core.? Only passing the cable through a bead is useful only > on 2M. Study k9yc.com/RFI-Ham.pdf? and http://k9yc.com/2018Cookbook.pdf > > While my base shack is all bonded to my AC panel ground, I'm running > > "portable" with KX2/KPA100 on my deck and portable antennas in my back > yard > > while we're renovating. So I don't have a good bonding/ground > configuration. > > Virtually none! > > Every chassis in an interconnected system must be bonded together, even > if there is no connection to the earth.? How are you powering the > KX2/KPA100?? Battery? AC power supply and extension cord? > > What is your antenna?? Is it some form of end-fed wire, vertical or > random orientation? If so, you need some form of counterpoise to carry > the antenna's return current. If you don't provide one, return current > will flow on the coax to the radio and the other equipment connected to > it, where it can cause mischief. And you need a common mode choke at the > feedpoint (the far end of the coax) as described in the two links above. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > > > > BRET/N4SRN > > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 13:25:28 -0700 (MST) > From: MaverickNH <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 TX "Sticks On" in FT8? > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi Don, > > No metal on those USD Audio Adaptors, unfortunately. I tried some Audio > Isolator Transformers but those just gave PTT ERR on my KX2. > > I see some USB and Ethernet Laptop Ground devices that the EMF-sensitive > people seem to use - I don't know if they work at all. > > https://www.electrahealth.com/Ethernet-grounding-adapter-kit_p_129.html > > > Other-Devices_p_159.html > > > > BRET/N4SRN > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 17:15:57 -0400 > From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> > To: MaverickNH <[hidden email]>, [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 TX "Sticks On" in FT8? > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Bret, > > There is no way that Audio Isolation transformers (by themselves) could > produce an ERR PTT unless you have VOX turned ON and the transformers > are making the hum worse. > > ERR PTT means that there is a key (or PTT) closure during the power on > sequence. Look for the source. > > I assume you have set PTT via CAT Command (or something similar) and > have turned off VOX in the KX2. > > Hanging in transmit can be caused by using two sources to turn on > transmit. Make sure there is nothing plugged into the KEY jack and the > KXPD2 paddles are not closed - turn VOX to OFF and use PTT via CAT > Command from the software for the most reliable PTT operation. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 8/9/2019 4:25 PM, MaverickNH wrote: > > Hi Don, > > > > No metal on those USD Audio Adaptors, unfortunately. I tried some Audio > > Isolator Transformers but those just gave PTT ERR on my KX2. > > > > I see some USB and Ethernet Laptop Ground devices that the EMF-sensitive > > people seem to use - I don't know if they work at all. > > > > https://www.electrahealth.com/Ethernet-grounding-adapter-kit_p_129.html > > > > > Other-Devices_p_159.html > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 18 > Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 16:32:12 -0500 > From: Timothy Elwell <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 TX "Sticks On" in FT8? > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > I apologize if this isn't applicable here. I don't have the KX2, so this > may be useless. However, I had the same issue going on with FT8 and > other digital modes with my KX3 (basically, anything the computer keyed. > Mic keying worked correctly, however). Nothing seemed to fix it, even > changing between computers, different sets of Elecraft cables, etc. With > the KX3, I opened it up and pulled both ends of the ribbon cable between > the top and bottom halves of the radio. When put back together, > everything worked like I champ. I can't say why it worked, but it fixed > my problem. Again, I don't know if the KX2 has this open half design > like the KX3 since I don't have one. But, I thought I would throw this > out in case it does. > > Tim > KG1GEM > > On 8/9/19 6:32 AM, MaverickNH wrote: > > While running FT8 on my KX2/KXPA100, the TX red LED will sometimes stay > on > > and the FT8 waterfall shows blank (like when TXing). ALC is stuck on 1 > Bar > > when I've got it set 4-5 Bars. If I click Tune in WSJT-X once or twice I > see > > the 4-5 Bars ALC and then all returns to normal. > > > > Is TX being "Stuck On" my KX2 or WSJT-X acting up? Using Win 10 and a > > Soundblaster Play! 3 USB audio adaptor. > > > > Bret/N4SRN > > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > -- > Tim > KG1GEM > Flower Mound, TX > Denton County SkyWarn Spotter > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 19 > Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 15:05:13 -0700 > From: Bob Younger <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Subject: [Elecraft] Want to trade: Elecraft KXPA w/ATU for my ACOM > 1010 > Message-ID: > < > [hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I would like to trade my ACOM1010 for an Elecraft KXPA w/ATU. The ACOM is > in essentially perfect condition; and currently wired for 120V. It would > sell used for more or less the same price as the KXPA w/ATU. If I'm buying > a used linear I'd sure rather arrange a trade (plus or minus) with someone > on this list than take my chances with eBay or other platforms. And of > course, if someone has a KXPA that they just don't have any use for, I'll > be more than glad to help them with it ;-). I love my KX3, but I'm > that when operating portable, too often 10-15W is just not making the trip > these days; and the ACOM requires me to take a generator along. I would > also be glad to just sell the ACOM if you're interested but don't have a > KXPA to trade. > > Thanks, > > Bob Younger AI6KU > [hidden email] > 619.961.7272 > I live in San Diego County. Driving aways to exchange would work for me. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 20 > Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 18:29:24 -0400 > From: "Michael Raskin" <[hidden email]> > To: <[hidden email]> > Subject: [Elecraft] Weighted Knobs for Main and VFO B > Message-ID: <4C5709FF641F499F83A38281D783DCD2@DESKTOPFSUHCE9> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > For Sale are a pair of weighted knobs from 73.CNC.com for the K3 or K3s > Main VFO and VFO B. The knobs are black and the Main VFO knob has a ball > bearing finger dimple. Both knobs are in perfect condition. They are no > longer being produced. $150 for the pair. including shipping. > > Mike W4UM > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 21 > Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 17:46:14 -0700 > From: Craig Bradley <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft P3 with SVGA for sale > Message-ID: > <CAECuoE0iMnMWk_qMHK4OvHi-XJQwsQzFgXk3=mzNXj= > [hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I have an Elecraft P3 Panadapter with the SVGA option installed for sale. > > It has been connected to my remote station and not turned on most of the > time. Very clean, non-smoking environment. > > I can ship it via UPS or it is available for pickup in San Jose. > > > > $575 + shipping > > PayPal accepted. > > > > Please respond offline to [hidden email] > > > > 73, > > - Craig, AE6RR > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 22 > Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 22:44:30 -0500 (CDT) > From: Michael Marx <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Subject: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini > Message-ID: > < > [hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hey all, I am on the hunt for a K3/0 Mini. If anyone has one they'd like > to sell, let me know. Best is email to [hidden email] > > 73 > Mike WB0SND > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 23 > Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 06:08:23 -0600 > From: Pete Meier <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Subject: [Elecraft] FS: K3 (s*) 100w + P3 Package > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > K3 and P3 are both in excellent cosmetic and working condition with low > usage hours. Non-smoker environment. > All Manuals, documentation and cables included. I am second owner. > Purchased K3 unit in late 2015. > Upgraded with P3, KAT3/P3-K, KPA3A, KXV3A, KBPF3, 2.7 kHz and 500 Hz > Filters in late 2015. > Upgraded with (K3s*) KSYN3AUPG Upgrade Kit in early 2017. > > K3 160-6 Meter Transceiver with K3(s*) Synthesizer KSYN3A > P3 High Performance Panadapter > KPA3A 100-Watt Amplifier > KAT3A 100-Watt Automatic Antenna Tuner > KXV3A Interface Option > KBPF3 General Coverage Receive Option > 2.7 kHz Filter > 500 Hz Filter > > Price $2195 plus shipping. Ships in new Elecraft boxing and packing. > Please reply off list. > > Pete > pmeier at me dot com > Amateur Radio Callsign: WK8S > || I never lose. If I don't win, I learn. - unknown author || > Pete Meier > pmeier at me.com > Amateur Radio Callsign: WK8S > || I never lose. If I don't win, I learn. - unknown author || > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 24 > Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 07:05:51 -0700 (MST) > From: Ned Mountain WC4X <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Weighted Knobs for Main and VFO B > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Just sent you an e mail about the knobs. > > Ned > WC4X > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 25 > Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 10:13:07 -0400 > From: "Michael Raskin" <[hidden email]> > To: <[hidden email]> > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 knobs are sold > Message-ID: <976DCB37D6344B759C7E874F23BA4A1F@DESKTOPFSUHCE9> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 26 > Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 08:33:27 -0700 > From: Phil Hystad <[hidden email]> > To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]> > Subject: [Elecraft] FS: Astron RS-50M Linear Power Supply > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I am selling my Astron RS-50M Linear Power Supply but prefer to sell > locally (Greater Seattle Area) rather than box up and ship it so prefer > some kind of local pickup (or, delivery if not too far out of my way). > > It is in perfect condition except for the meter back lights are burned > out. I have owned a number of these Astrons and for some reason this > always happens. My other Astron supply does not have lights in the meters > either however I never do look at those meters so for me it was no big > ? lights aren?t needed anyway to read the meter. No dents or scratches on > the cabinet that I know of ? in fact, I don?t think it has ever been moved > once I put it in place about 8 years ago. > > I also built a nice wooden table that the power supply sits upon. It is > designed to allow airflow underneath from underneath. The table is sized > to provide a height of the power supply underneath my table I use for > operating. This table is offered as a free gift to the buyer if they want > it. > > This power supply retails for something above $300 depending on where you > buy it. I am offering it at $150. No dents or scratches on the panel > I know of. > > If interested, let me know by e-mail. > > 73, phil, K7PEH > [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> > QTH: Kirkland, WA > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 27 > Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 09:24:26 -0700 > From: Craig Bradley <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft P3 with SVGA for sale > Message-ID: > < > [hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > have an Elecraft P3 Panadapter with the SVGA option installed for sale. > > It has been connected to my remote station and not turned on most of the > time. Very clean, non-smoking environment. > > I can ship it via UPS or it is available for pickup in San Jose. > > The P3 with the SVGA option is $1054.90 on the Elecraft web site. > > Price: $575 + shipping > > PayPal accepted. > > Please respond offline to [hidden email] > > 73, > > - Craig, AE6RR > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 28 > Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 11:29:21 -0500 > From: Aaron <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 ATU Not Tuning > Message-ID: > < > [hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I have a KX3 with the ATU installed. I replaced the batteries and since > then the ATU will not tune. When I hit the ATU TUNE button it just says > 25.4-1 and I can hear the relays going off. I opened it back up and looked > for any cables not connected or anything and it looked all fine to me but > could have missed something. It was working just fine before the battery > switch. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 29 > Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 15:03:46 -0400 > From: rich hurd WC3T <[hidden email]> > To: Aaron <[hidden email]> > Cc: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 ATU Not Tuning > Message-ID: > <CABYU7WgfA+bMZhnC390fYY0BNfFuMMfzS1oXuUqNcjLqEgX=+ > [hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > >From what I?ve read, you have an open circuit to the antenna. Feedline > okay? I had a marginal feedline and had to replace it. > > I also had a bad BNC cable that deformed the connector on the side of the > KX3 and had to replace it as well. > > On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 12:29 Aaron <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > I have a KX3 with the ATU installed. I replaced the batteries and since > > then the ATU will not tune. When I hit the ATU TUNE button it just says > > 25.4-1 and I can hear the relays going off. I opened it back up and > looked > > for any cables not connected or anything and it looked all fine to me > but I > > could have missed something. It was working just fine before the > > switch. > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > -- > 72, > Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737 > Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting > Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988 (40?45.68' N 75?17.33' W) Grid: > *FN20is* > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > You must be a subscriber to post. > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > End of Elecraft Digest, Vol 184, Issue 8 > **************************************** > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 19:13:48 -0500 From: Dave Fugleberg <[hidden email]> To: David Gilbert <[hidden email]> Cc: Elecraft <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dedicated FTx Rig Message-ID: <CAF==[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" WSJT-X does, in fact, provide a way to do band changes without touching the radio. There's a pull down menu on the main window just to the left of the frequency. Click the little down arrow on that box, select the band, and the radio will follow. The Frequencies tab under Files..Settings menu must be configured with the frequencies you plan to use on each band. Regarding the idea of a dedicated, all-in-one rig for FT modes, I suspect the reason that such single-purpose radios have never caught on is that radio and computer technology often evolve at different rates. For instance, you might wind up in a couple years with a box that contains a perfectly good radio, but is stuck with a computer that's not suitable for digital mode flavor of the month. Keeping them separate is far more flexible,at the expense of some integration and configuration work. Maybe there's a market for such a device...maybe not. I can't imagine there would be enough demand to justify it, but then again, maybe that's why I'm not in the ham radio manufacturing business :) 73 de W0ZF On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:41 PM David Gilbert <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I'm certain this is not an original idea, but I wonder if somebody will > ever come out with a dedicated all-in-one notebook-sized portable rig > for the FT-type digital modes. I'm pretty new to FT8/4 but I find it > interesting that when I'm operating it all I ever do with my K3 is turn > it on and make band changes since everything else is done on my > computer. I wouldn't even need to do that much on the K3 if WSJT-X had > a button to make band changes. > > Possibly such a unit might look like: > > 1. 12 volt operation (10 watts output) for portable use > > 2. large enough screen to be practical > > 3. running modified (mouseless) version of WSJT-X to allow up/down > arrow keys for: > > a. band selection > b. frequency change in 2 KHz increments > c. mode selection > d. contact selection from activity window > e. TX1-TX6 sequence override > f. transmit enable/disable > > 4. a button to momentarily press for log, press/hold to autolog > > 5. USB port to run modified WSJT-X from flash drive for easy upgrade > and log transfer > > 6. internal antenna tuner (could be manual) > > 7. etc. > > Rigs dedicated to specific modes have never been very popular, but I > suspect that FTx might change that and I suspect an integrated low power > SDR version could end up being fairly inexpensive. A side advantage is > that audio levels would be preset in hardware and we'd see less > overdrive situations. ;) > > Anybody know if there is already something like this out there? I can > find small inexpensive transceivers designed for FT8, but they still > require a separate computer. > > Just some ramblings on a rainy day ... > > 73, > Dave AB7E > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 17:27:07 -0700 From: Bob Younger <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] Want to move to a KXPA100 w/ATU; ACOM 1010 for sale or trade Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I'm offering for trade or sale an ACOM 1010 in perfect condition. My portable operating has changed since I acquired the KX3 and I'd like to acquire a KXPA100 w/ATU to go with the KX3 for portable use. I have an ACOM 1010 that is wired for 120V and will output 200-250W with the 15W input from a KX3; or 600W from a 60W input. As much as I love the ACOM, my budget won't let me have both linears. I'm offering the ACOM for $1200 plus shipping and insurance. Or, if you'd like to up your QRO performance with a solid, resilient, single-tube linear; and have a KXPA100 to offer in trade, I'm open to offers. I live in San Diego County, so if you're in SOCAL or southern AZ we can probably save something on shipping. Shipping and insurance to the midwest US is roughly $120. Thanks, Bob Younger AI6KU [hidden email] 619.961.7272 ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 21:22:41 -0400 From: rich hurd WC3T <[hidden email]> To: Aaron <[hidden email]>, [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 ATU Not Tuning Message-ID: <CABYU7Whoeb7wqo36KGMATWaiQawr+jL=[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Neither a low battery condition nor a bad feedline or connector will have any bearing on the ATU.MD menu option. On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 8:45 PM Aaron <[hidden email]> wrote: > I checked the menu and the ATU MD is set to Auto > > On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 2:03 PM rich hurd WC3T <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> From what I?ve read, you have an open circuit to the antenna. Feedline >> okay? I had a marginal feedline and had to replace it. >> >> I also had a bad BNC cable that deformed the connector on the side of the >> KX3 and had to replace it as well. >> >> On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 12:29 Aaron <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> I have a KX3 with the ATU installed. I replaced the batteries and since >>> then the ATU will not tune. When I hit the ATU TUNE button it just says >>> 25.4-1 and I can hear the relays going off. I opened it back up and >>> looked >>> for any cables not connected or anything and it looked all fine to me >>> but I >>> could have missed something. It was working just fine before the >>> switch. >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to [hidden email] >>> >> -- >> 72, >> Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737 >> Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for >> Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988 (40?45.68' N 75?17.33' W) >> Grid: *FN20is* >> >> > > -- > '72 > Aaron Scott > K5ATG <https://k5atg.blogspot.com/> > Mid-Del Amateur Radio Club <http://www.w5mwc.org/> > > -- 72, Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737 Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988 (40?45.68' N 75?17.33' W) Grid: *FN20is* ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 20:24:48 -0500 From: Aaron <[hidden email]> To: rich hurd WC3T <[hidden email]> Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 ATU Not Tuning Message-ID: <CADENs292Xws03hy+_kFoksPmqB5dwwcr=[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Ok, thanks. On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 8:23 PM rich hurd WC3T <[hidden email]> wrote: > Neither a low battery condition nor a bad feedline or connector will have > any bearing on the ATU.MD menu option. > > On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 8:45 PM Aaron <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> I checked the menu and the ATU MD is set to Auto >> >> On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 2:03 PM rich hurd WC3T <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> From what I?ve read, you have an open circuit to the antenna. Feedline >>> okay? I had a marginal feedline and had to replace it. >>> >>> I also had a bad BNC cable that deformed the connector on the side of >>> the KX3 and had to replace it as well. >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 12:29 Aaron <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>>> I have a KX3 with the ATU installed. I replaced the batteries and since >>>> then the ATU will not tune. When I hit the ATU TUNE button it just >>>> 25.4-1 and I can hear the relays going off. I opened it back up and >>>> looked >>>> for any cables not connected or anything and it looked all fine to me >>>> but I >>>> could have missed something. It was working just fine before the >>>> battery >>>> switch. >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> Message delivered to [hidden email] >>>> >>> -- >>> 72, >>> Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737 >>> Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for >>> Scouting >>> Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988 (40?45.68' N 75?17.33' W) >>> Grid: *FN20is* >>> >>> >> >> -- >> '72 >> Aaron Scott >> K5ATG <https://k5atg.blogspot.com/> >> Mid-Del Amateur Radio Club <http://www.w5mwc.org/> >> >> > > -- > 72, > Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737 > Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting > Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988 (40?45.68' N 75?17.33' W) > Grid: *FN20is* > > -- '72 Aaron Scott K5ATG <https://k5atg.blogspot.com/> Mid-Del Amateur Radio Club <http://www.w5mwc.org/> ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 07:30:04 +0300 From: Vic Rosenthal <[hidden email]> To: David Gilbert <[hidden email]> Cc: Elecraft <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dedicated FTx Rig Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 You?d probably end up with a computer anyway (except perhaps for portable operations) to do all the functions other than the ones that WSJT handles. For example, I check propagation, point my antenna, receive cluster and RBN spots, maintain a log of tens of thousands of QSOs in various modes and keep track of award progress, upload QSO data to Clublog in real time, upload to LOTW after each session and update my log with results, receive WhatsApp messages, and more. If you had an onboard computer, you would still end up dumping data to an external one on a regular basis anyway. I think the division of labor between a rig and external computer is just about right. Now if you are backpacking and just making a few QSOs for fun, that?s another story. Victor 4X6GP > On 10 Aug 2019, at 23:40, David Gilbert <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > I'm certain this is not an original idea, but I wonder if somebody will ever come out with a dedicated all-in-one notebook-sized portable rig for the FT-type digital modes. I'm pretty new to FT8/4 but I find it interesting that when I'm operating it all I ever do with my K3 is turn it on and make band changes since everything else is done on my computer. I wouldn't even need to do that much on the K3 if WSJT-X had a button to make band changes. > > Possibly such a unit might look like: > > 1. 12 volt operation (10 watts output) for portable use > > 2. large enough screen to be practical > > 3. running modified (mouseless) version of WSJT-X to allow up/down arrow keys for: > > a. band selection > b. frequency change in 2 KHz increments > c. mode selection > d. contact selection from activity window > e. TX1-TX6 sequence override > f. transmit enable/disable > > 4. a button to momentarily press for log, press/hold to autolog > > 5. USB port to run modified WSJT-X from flash drive for easy upgrade and > > 6. internal antenna tuner (could be manual) > > 7. etc. > > Rigs dedicated to specific modes have never been very popular, but I suspect that FTx might change that and I suspect an integrated low power SDR version could end up being fairly inexpensive. A side advantage is that audio levels would be preset in hardware and we'd see less overdrive situations. ;) > > Anybody know if there is already something like this out there? I can find small inexpensive transceivers designed for FT8, but they still require a separate computer. > > Just some ramblings on a rainy day ... > > 73, > Dave AB7E > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 21:40:36 -0700 From: Brian Hunt <[hidden email]> To: David Gilbert <[hidden email]> Cc: Elecraft <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dedicated FTx Rig Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On Aug 10, 2019, at 13:40, David Gilbert <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > I'm certain this is not an original idea, but I wonder if somebody will ever come out with a dedicated all-in-one notebook-sized portable rig for the FT-type digital modes. I'm pretty new to FT8/4 but I find it interesting that when I'm operating it all I ever do with my K3 is turn it on and make band changes since everything else is done on my computer. I wouldn't even need to do that much on the K3 if WSJT-X had a button to make band changes. > > Possibly such a unit might look like: > > 1. 12 volt operation (10 watts output) for portable use > > 2. large enough screen to be practical > > 3. running modified (mouseless) version of WSJT-X to allow up/down arrow keys for: > > a. band selection > b. frequency change in 2 KHz increments > c. mode selection > d. contact selection from activity window > e. TX1-TX6 sequence override > f. transmit enable/disable > > 4. a button to momentarily press for log, press/hold to autolog > > 5. USB port to run modified WSJT-X from flash drive for easy upgrade and > > 6. internal antenna tuner (could be manual) > > 7. etc. > > Rigs dedicated to specific modes have never been very popular, but I suspect that FTx might change that and I suspect an integrated low power SDR version could end up being fairly inexpensive. A side advantage is that audio levels would be preset in hardware and we'd see less overdrive situations. ;) > > Anybody know if there is already something like this out there? I can find small inexpensive transceivers designed for FT8, but they still require a separate computer. > > Just some ramblings on a rainy day ... > > 73, > Dave AB7E > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 21:46:54 -0700 From: Brian Hunt <[hidden email]> To: David Gilbert <[hidden email]> Cc: Elecraft <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dedicated FTx Rig Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sorry, try again. There was a fellow on the Facebook KX2 group who described an WSJT setup consisting of a KX2, RPi3 and an iPad. Pretty slick and light weight and with a little repackaging could be an all-in-one. 73, Brian, K0DTJ > On Aug 10, 2019, at 13:40, David Gilbert <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > I'm certain this is not an original idea, but I wonder if somebody will ever come out with a dedicated all-in-one notebook-sized portable rig for the FT-type digital modes. I'm pretty new to FT8/4 but I find it interesting that when I'm operating it all I ever do with my K3 is turn it on and make band changes since everything else is done on my computer. I wouldn't even need to do that much on the K3 if WSJT-X had a button to make band changes. > > ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 21:51:27 -0700 From: kevinr <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dedicated FTx Rig Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Another way to connect the two worlds of computers and radio would be to add the radio to the computer as a card on the motherboard.? Or plug it into a USB port on a laptop like a flash drive.? It is not quite a dedicated machine to do one thing but you will be able to upgrade the two parts separately.? You have the advantage of the power of the computer you choose while the radio does not need to be that complex. ?? GL, ???? Kevin.? KD5ONS - On 8/10/19 9:40 PM, Brian Hunt wrote: > >> On Aug 10, 2019, at 13:40, David Gilbert <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> >> I'm certain this is not an original idea, but I wonder if somebody will ever come out with a dedicated all-in-one notebook-sized portable rig for the FT-type digital modes. I'm pretty new to FT8/4 but I find it interesting that when I'm operating it all I ever do with my K3 is turn it on and make band changes since everything else is done on my computer. I wouldn't even need to do that much on the K3 if WSJT-X had a button to make band changes. >> >> Possibly such a unit might look like: >> >> 1. 12 volt operation (10 watts output) for portable use >> >> 2. large enough screen to be practical >> >> 3. running modified (mouseless) version of WSJT-X to allow up/down arrow keys for: >> >> a. band selection >> b. frequency change in 2 KHz increments >> c. mode selection >> d. contact selection from activity window >> e. TX1-TX6 sequence override >> f. transmit enable/disable >> >> 4. a button to momentarily press for log, press/hold to autolog >> >> 5. USB port to run modified WSJT-X from flash drive for easy upgrade and >> >> 6. internal antenna tuner (could be manual) >> >> 7. etc. >> >> Rigs dedicated to specific modes have never been very popular, but I suspect that FTx might change that and I suspect an integrated low power SDR version could end up being fairly inexpensive. A side advantage is that audio levels would be preset in hardware and we'd see less overdrive situations. ;) >> >> Anybody know if there is already something like this out there? I can find small inexpensive transceivers designed for FT8, but they still require a separate computer. >> >> Just some ramblings on a rainy day ... >> >> 73, >> Dave AB7E >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 22:45:06 -0700 From: kevinr <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Good Evening, ?? The fire danger has been very low this year.? I don't think we ever entered a true dry season.? Today it rained like it was the middle of November.? In about two weeks the tree which supports my main antenna has to come down.? I told them to drop it early in the week so I can have time to restring it.? There aren't any other trees as tall as this one but I think the next one to the East should be OK.? It was close enough to this one so its branches have been suppressed along the West side.? That will make it much easier to shoot a line from the roof.? Propagation tomorrow will be pretty close to what is has been lately.? We have been brushed by a little solar wind with another stream due on the 11th.? I expect that to keep QSB fluttering away. Please join us on: 14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday) ? 7047 kHz at 0000z Monday (5 PM PDT Sunday) ?? 73, ????? Kevin. KD5ONS _ ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 01:11:15 -0700 From: David Gilbert <[hidden email]> To: Vic Rosenthal <[hidden email]> Cc: Elecraft <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dedicated FTx Rig Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed "Now if you are backpacking and just making a few QSOs for fun, that?s another story." That was my hypothetical intent. For vacation and portable operation, I'd probably be using a non-directive antenna, I'd settle for whatever propagation there was, I'd be making FAR less than tens of thousands of QSOs, and I already suggested transferring logs to my desktop computer via a USB flash drive. The idea would be to avoid dragging along a computer and hassle with all the cabling. There all kinds of folks here on this reflector using KX2's and KX3's interfaced with laptops and iPads for portable operation. That just seems like a sloppy way to do it when a rather simple all-in-one unit with a much simpler radio could handle the same task less expensively. Dave AB7E On 8/10/2019 9:30 PM, Vic Rosenthal wrote: > You?d probably end up with a computer anyway (except perhaps for portable operations) to do all the functions other than the ones that WSJT handles. For example, I check propagation, point my antenna, receive cluster and RBN spots, maintain a log of tens of thousands of QSOs in various modes and keep track of award progress, upload QSO data to Clublog in real time, upload to LOTW after each session and update my log with results, receive WhatsApp messages, and more. > If you had an onboard computer, you would still end up dumping data to an external one on a regular basis anyway. I think the division of labor between a rig and external computer is just about right. > Now if you are backpacking and just making a few QSOs for fun, that?s another story. > > Victor 4X6GP > >> On 10 Aug 2019, at 23:40, David Gilbert <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> >> I'm certain this is not an original idea, but I wonder if somebody will ever come out with a dedicated all-in-one notebook-sized portable rig for the FT-type digital modes. I'm pretty new to FT8/4 but I find it interesting that when I'm operating it all I ever do with my K3 is turn it on and make band changes since everything else is done on my computer. I wouldn't even need to do that much on the K3 if WSJT-X had a button to make band changes. >> >> Possibly such a unit might look like: >> >> 1. 12 volt operation (10 watts output) for portable use >> >> 2. large enough screen to be practical >> >> 3. running modified (mouseless) version of WSJT-X to allow up/down arrow keys for: >> >> a. band selection >> b. frequency change in 2 KHz increments >> c. mode selection >> d. contact selection from activity window >> e. TX1-TX6 sequence override >> f. transmit enable/disable >> >> 4. a button to momentarily press for log, press/hold to autolog >> >> 5. USB port to run modified WSJT-X from flash drive for easy upgrade and >> >> 6. internal antenna tuner (could be manual) >> >> 7. etc. >> >> Rigs dedicated to specific modes have never been very popular, but I suspect that FTx might change that and I suspect an integrated low power SDR version could end up being fairly inexpensive. A side advantage is that audio levels would be preset in hardware and we'd see less overdrive situations. ;) >> >> Anybody know if there is already something like this out there? I can find small inexpensive transceivers designed for FT8, but they still require a separate computer. >> >> Just some ramblings on a rainy day ... >> >> 73, >> Dave AB7E >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 04:42:38 -0700 (MST) From: Barry <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dedicated FTx Rig Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Whoever designs such a radio could save a few bucks by not putting a speaker in it. Barry W2UP -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 07:31:13 -0500 From: John Harper <[hidden email]> To: Elecraft list <[hidden email]> Subject: [Elecraft] Dedicated FTx Rig Message-ID: <CAPHmH=MXdqWL6Q0AgVi1sYySnNzP7f53Q6XwYHa=[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" SDR radios don't require the entanglement of cables and can be quite portable. I have two - the mcHF and the older Apache Labs Anan-10e. Only one ethernet cable connects them to a small laptop for any/all modes. 6-160m with the Anan; 10-80 with the mcHF. Hopefully the KX4 will have this efficiency and easy-of-connectivity as well. John AE5X https://ae5x.blogspot.com The idea would be to avoid dragging along a computer and hassle with all the cabling. There all kinds of folks here on this reflector using KX2's and KX3's interfaced with laptops and iPads for portable operation. That just seems like a sloppy way to do it when a rather simple all-in-one unit with a much simpler radio could handle the same task less expensively. ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 06:17:22 -0700 From: Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dedicated FTx Rig Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed I see a wonderful building project here. Lets start out with a Raspberry Pi -- for me the latest version with plenty of compute power for FT8 It draws about 2-3A @ 12V. Add in a HDMI display (from Adafruit) at about 0.8A @ 12V, some kind of sound card (if the display doesn't have sound), and a USB keyboard. (I would go with a separate keyboard for its typing advantages. YMMV) We now have a functioning computer. The next question is what we do about a radio and here comes the camel's nose into the tent. The simplest solution is a single-mode, single-band dedicated radio. One of my favorite radios is the Small Wonders Labs PSK-20. (Unfortunately the kit is SK.) It tuned the PSK subband at 14.070 and nothing else. It had no UI, everything was done on the computer. It should be simple to retune it for 14.074 and run FT8. But suppose we want more than that. There are any number of QRP radio kits around that might do. Or even a KX2. But the KX2 wouldn't be enough for my friend Jim, K6EI who likes to go into the woods of Washington state and run QRP 160M. He'd need at least a KX3. Regardless of what radio is chosen, it would be easy to leave enough space around the computer board to allow for future computer upgrades. (I assume the computer will become obsolete faster than the radio.) Have fun building. 73 Bill AE6JV On 8/11/19 at 1:11 AM, [hidden email] (David Gilbert) wrote: >"Now if you are backpacking and just making a few QSOs for fun, that?s another story." > >That was my hypothetical intent. For vacation and portable >operation, I'd probably be using a non-directive antenna, I'd >settle for whatever propagation there was, I'd be making FAR >less than tens of thousands of QSOs, and I already suggested >transferring logs to my desktop computer via a USB flash drive. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Since the IBM Selectric, keyboards have gotten 408-356-8506 | steadily worse. Now we have touchscreen keyboards. www.pwpconsult.com | Can we make something even worse? ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 12:28:46 -0400 From: "Michael Raskin" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Subject: [Elecraft] MH4 Mic For Sale Message-ID: <89D031FBB4A440519B95042CDC516D6B@DESKTOPFSUHCE9> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" For Sale is a brand-new MH4 mic, still wrapped and in the box. If you have the old MH2, you might want to upgrade to the MH4 as the MH2 is no longer available and not supplied with the K3s. Buy mine for $45, which includes free Priority 2-day shipping. Mike W4UM ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft You must be a subscriber to post. Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com End of Elecraft Digest, Vol 184, Issue 9 **************************************** ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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