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Byron Peebles

MacOSX Logging Software

With my migration from TenTec to Elecraft, I was planning to also move
my logging and station control from Windows to MacOSX. I have found
sources like DogParkRadio to be tempting, but I wanted to check with
Elecraft users on which packages best support the K3 (and upcoming K3S).

I use mostly HF CW/SSB, but rotor control (M2),, LoTW, DX Cluster
integration are important. And I might try other digital modes in the
future.

73, Byron
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Tony Scandurra K4QE

Re: MacOSX Logging Software

Byron,

Check this one out...

http://www.dl2rum.de/rumsoft/RUMsoft_Home.html

73, Tony K4QE

On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 7:37 AM, Byron Peebles <[hidden email]> wrote:

> With my migration from TenTec to Elecraft, I was planning to also move my
> logging and station control from Windows to MacOSX. I have found sources
> like DogParkRadio to be tempting, but I wanted to check with Elecraft users
> on which packages best support the K3 (and upcoming K3S).
>
> I use mostly HF CW/SSB, but rotor control (M2),, LoTW, DX Cluster
> integration are important. And I might try other digital modes in the
> future.
>
> 73, Byron
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Joel Black-2

Re: MacOSX Logging Software

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Byron,

When I switched from Windows to Mac, my first logging program was Aether Logging. Don’t bother with it. The author is completely unresponsive to help and requests for improvement. I shoved $50 up a wild hog’s butt and just yelled “Suey!” That’s been two years ago and I’m still ticked about it.

I found RUMlog and haven’t looked back. It’s free. The author has a forum page where he is *extremely* helpful to both problems and requests for improvement. The newest version is RUMlogNG and is available from the app store.

Once you get used to the Mac, you’ll never want to see another Windows machine. Unfortunately, I have to use Win7 at work and I *hate* the way it does things.

73,
Joel - W4JBB

> On Jul 10, 2015, at 6:37 AM, Byron Peebles <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> With my migration from TenTec to Elecraft, I was planning to also move my logging and station control from Windows to MacOSX. I have found sources like DogParkRadio to be tempting, but I wanted to check with Elecraft users on which packages best support the K3 (and upcoming K3S).
>
> I use mostly HF CW/SSB, but rotor control (M2),, LoTW, DX Cluster integration are important. And I might try other digital modes in the future.
>
> 73, Byron
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Re: MacOSX Logging Software

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Byron,
I have not used the RUMsoft (yet) however I am happy with MacLoggerDX. Besides just logging the QSOs there are many more features, with the DX Clusters being one that is really neat. It integrated well with my K3. When you change the VFO, it shows in the software. When you click on a DX Spot, it changes your VFO to that frequency, etc. I do not have a rotor (yet) however I am sure that also likely works well too. Every feature works well.
You can export one or more QSOs to an QDIF file which is the standard for QSOs. They can then be loaded into LoTW and eQSL etc. You can also confirm QSOs by importing an ADIF from LoTW which is nice.
It has a lot of features.
Support is tops. The developer typically responds within an hour. He is very nice to deal with.
It was well worth the $100
Shoot me an email at mmgillen at me.com if you'd like to discuss offline.
73,MichaelKK6RWK
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Byron,

Check this one out...

http://www.dl2rum.de/rumsoft/RUMsoft_Home.html

73, Tony K4QE

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Jonathan Cullifer

Re: MacOSX Logging Software

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No experience with the rotor control, but I use MacLoggerDX. It's a bit
expensive, but suits my tastes just fine, and integrates pretty well with
everything. There is an add-on for LoTW automatic uploads.
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James Bennett

Re: MacOSX Logging Software

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Byron,

I also migrated from the Windows environment - nine years ago. Never did computer logging until I got my iMac. I tried MacloggerDX and really like it. Mind you, I don't do rotor control nor do I have anything to do with clusters. I operate HF CW and occasionally SSB. I do like the way MLDX tracks my DXCC and WAS data. Don Agro, the author, is very responsive to questions and suggestions for enhancements. While it is not free, you are allowed to use it on several computers, if so desired. My shack/main MLDX logging computer is an iMac. I also run the software on our MacBook Pro occasionally. I use MLDX with my K3 and KX3.

A year or so ago I started doing some JT65 and JT9 operating using WSJT-X. There is a free program called JTbridge that interfaces with MLDX - when a QSO is "logged" in WSJT-X, JTbridge will automatically add it to your MLDX database - very slick.

I've not used other Mac-based logging programs, but I would definitely recommend MLDX, at least for a trial to see how you like it.

BTW - the MLDX database is a SQLlite file and if you are interested in building your own queries and subsequent reports, that database is easily accessible via SQLlite database utilities found on the Internet.

73, Jim

Jim Bennett / W6JHB
Folsom, CA

> On Jul 10, 2015, at 4:37 AM, Byron Peebles <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> With my migration from TenTec to Elecraft, I was planning to also move my logging and station control from Windows to MacOSX. I have found sources like DogParkRadio to be tempting, but I wanted to check with Elecraft users on which packages best support the K3 (and upcoming K3S).
>
> I use mostly HF CW/SSB, but rotor control (M2),, LoTW, DX Cluster integration are important. And I might try other digital modes in the future.
>
> 73, Byron
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Tighe Kuykendall

Re: MacOSX Logging Software

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RUMlogNG and RUMped here as well. Have been using them for several
years and am extremely happy. I use it on a MacBook Pro with my K3 at
home and then portable with my KX3. Integration is great with Elecraft
gear.

I use FLdigi for PSK and RTTY, which integrates well with some
applescript so the logging is done to RUMlogNG. Works very well and
there are examples and samples out there.

Tighe
NK4I

On 7/10/15 8:08 AM, Joel Black wrote:

> Byron,
>
> When I switched from Windows to Mac, my first logging program was Aether Logging. Don’t bother with it. The author is completely unresponsive to help and requests for improvement. I shoved $50 up a wild hog’s butt and just yelled “Suey!” That’s been two years ago and I’m still ticked about it.
>
> I found RUMlog and haven’t looked back. It’s free. The author has a forum page where he is *extremely* helpful to both problems and requests for improvement. The newest version is RUMlogNG and is available from the app store.
>
> Once you get used to the Mac, you’ll never want to see another Windows machine. Unfortunately, I have to use Win7 at work and I *hate* the way it does things.
>
> 73,
> Joel - W4JBB
>
>> On Jul 10, 2015, at 6:37 AM, Byron Peebles <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> With my migration from TenTec to Elecraft, I was planning to also move my logging and station control from Windows to MacOSX. I have found sources like DogParkRadio to be tempting, but I wanted to check with Elecraft users on which packages best support the K3 (and upcoming K3S).
>>
>> I use mostly HF CW/SSB, but rotor control (M2),, LoTW, DX Cluster integration are important. And I might try other digital modes in the future.
>>
>> 73, Byron
>> ______________________________________________________________

Scott Manthe-2

Re: MacOSX Logging Software

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Hi Byron,
I use RUMLog and RUMped here. Take a look at the feature list and see if
if it suits your needs: http://www.dl2rum.de/rumsoft/RUMLog.html

73,
Scott N9AA

On 7/10/15 7:37 AM, Byron Peebles wrote:

> With my migration from TenTec to Elecraft, I was planning to also move
> my logging and station control from Windows to MacOSX. I have found
> sources like DogParkRadio to be tempting, but I wanted to check with
> Elecraft users on which packages best support the K3 (and upcoming K3S).
>
> I use mostly HF CW/SSB, but rotor control (M2),, LoTW, DX Cluster
> integration are important. And I might try other digital modes in the
> future.
>
> 73, Byron
> ______________________________________________________________

Rick Prather-3

Re: MacOSX Logging Software

A lot of your logging choice depends on your operating style.

For many reasons if you are chasing DXCC and have a K3 then RumLog or
RumLogNG is the best choice.

The ability to quickly determine the status of a DXCC country ( worked?,
Modes? confirmed? Paper or Lotw?) is simply the best and integration with
LoTW is great. One click and you're done.

The DX Spots list is better than any logging program, Mac or Windows, for
highlighting what spots you need for DXCC or for the Marathon.

Then K3 control screen is well done and in RumLogNG there is also a P3
control screen that I use a lot.

Rick
K6LE

On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Scott Manthe <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Hi Byron,
> I use RUMLog and RUMped here. Take a look at the feature list and see if
> if it suits your needs: http://www.dl2rum.de/rumsoft/RUMLog.html
>
> 73,
> Scott N9AA
>
>
>
>
> On 7/10/15 7:37 AM, Byron Peebles wrote:
>
>> With my migration from TenTec to Elecraft, I was planning to also move my
>> logging and station control from Windows to MacOSX. I have found sources
>> like DogParkRadio to be tempting, but I wanted to check with Elecraft users
>> on which packages best support the K3 (and upcoming K3S).
>>
>> I use mostly HF CW/SSB, but rotor control (M2),, LoTW, DX Cluster
>> integration are important. And I might try other digital modes in the
>> future.
>>
>> 73, Byron
>> ______________________________________________________________
>>
>
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Byron Peebles

Re: MacOSX Logging Software

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Great insights. Thanks.

Do you use a keyboard for sending CW with this?

73, Byron NZ3o/qr..p

On 07/10/2015 10:27 AM, James Bennett wrote:

> Byron,
>
> I also migrated from the Windows environment - nine years ago. Never did computer logging until I got my iMac. I tried MacloggerDX and really like it. Mind you, I don't do rotor control nor do I have anything to do with clusters. I operate HF CW and occasionally SSB. I do like the way MLDX tracks my DXCC and WAS data. Don Agro, the author, is very responsive to questions and suggestions for enhancements. While it is not free, you are allowed to use it on several computers, if so desired. My shack/main MLDX logging computer is an iMac. I also run the software on our MacBook Pro occasionally. I use MLDX with my K3 and KX3.
>
> A year or so ago I started doing some JT65 and JT9 operating using WSJT-X. There is a free program called JTbridge that interfaces with MLDX - when a QSO is "logged" in WSJT-X, JTbridge will automatically add it to your MLDX database - very slick.
>
> I've not used other Mac-based logging programs, but I would definitely recommend MLDX, at least for a trial to see how you like it.
>
> BTW - the MLDX database is a SQLlite file and if you are interested in building your own queries and subsequent reports, that database is easily accessible via SQLlite database utilities found on the Internet.
>
> 73, Jim
>
> Jim Bennett / W6JHB
> Folsom, CA
>
>> On Jul 10, 2015, at 4:37 AM, Byron Peebles <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> With my migration from TenTec to Elecraft, I was planning to also move my logging and station control from Windows to MacOSX. I have found sources like DogParkRadio to be tempting, but I wanted to check with Elecraft users on which packages best support the K3 (and upcoming K3S).
>>
>> I use mostly HF CW/SSB, but rotor control (M2),, LoTW, DX Cluster integration are important. And I might try other digital modes in the future.
>>
>> 73, Byron
>> ______________________________________________________________
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Byron Peebles

Re: MacOSX Logging Software - real-time behavior

So many great people sent great responses, thank you. That's how this
kind of community adds value.

I would summarize the replies as saying MacLogger or RUMlog are the best.

So, now it's down to operating. As a CW operator, I use a keyboard
(yikes!) and functions keys (op: tnx es 73 gd dx).

So, how does either one make life better real-time? Both are
crash-free, I hope. No staqggering USB delays, like you-know-who.

72, Byron NZ3o/qr..p

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James Bennett

Re: MacOSX Logging Software

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Nope, my right fist! I alternate between a Begali Signature paddle and an American Morse Equipment KK2 paddle, depending on my mood. My keyboard gets involved when I operate PSK31 with FLDIGI or cocoaModem and JT65 JT9 with WSJT-X. 😀

Jim Bennett / W6JHB
Folsom, CA

> On Jul 10, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Byron Peebles <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Great insights. Thanks.
>
> Do you use a keyboard for sending CW with this?
>
> 73, Byron NZ3o/qr..p
>
>> On 07/10/2015 10:27 AM, James Bennett wrote:
>> Byron,
>>
>> I also migrated from the Windows environment - nine years ago. Never did computer logging until I got my iMac. I tried MacloggerDX and really like it. Mind you, I don't do rotor control nor do I have anything to do with clusters. I operate HF CW and occasionally SSB. I do like the way MLDX tracks my DXCC and WAS data. Don Agro, the author, is very responsive to questions and suggestions for enhancements. While it is not free, you are allowed to use it on several computers, if so desired. My shack/main MLDX logging computer is an iMac. I also run the software on our MacBook Pro occasionally. I use MLDX with my K3 and KX3.
>>
>> A year or so ago I started doing some JT65 and JT9 operating using WSJT-X. There is a free program called JTbridge that interfaces with MLDX - when a QSO is "logged" in WSJT-X, JTbridge will automatically add it to your MLDX database - very slick.
>>
>> I've not used other Mac-based logging programs, but I would definitely recommend MLDX, at least for a trial to see how you like it.
>>
>> BTW - the MLDX database is a SQLlite file and if you are interested in building your own queries and subsequent reports, that database is easily accessible via SQLlite database utilities found on the Internet.
>>
>> 73, Jim
>>
>> Jim Bennett / W6JHB
>> Folsom, CA
>>
>>> On Jul 10, 2015, at 4:37 AM, Byron Peebles <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> With my migration from TenTec to Elecraft, I was planning to also move my logging and station control from Windows to MacOSX. I have found sources like DogParkRadio to be tempting, but I wanted to check with Elecraft users on which packages best support the K3 (and upcoming K3S).
>>>
>>> I use mostly HF CW/SSB, but rotor control (M2),, LoTW, DX Cluster integration are important. And I might try other digital modes in the future.
>>>
>>> 73, Byron
>>> ______________________________________________________________
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Mike Reublin NF4L

Re: MacOSX Logging Software

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After trying several Mac logging programs when switching from Windoze, RUMLog is the clear winner for me. Focus on what meets your logging needs, they all support Th K-series as far as control goes.

RUMLog ties in well with fldigi for digital modes, has a really good interface to LoTW and cluster. It does not have built in rotor control, but I wrote a program that talks to it via Apple script. http://nf4l.com and some fldigi config notes.

Since you mention LoTW, I assume you are interested in DX. Tom DL2RUM is an active DXer and it shows in his program. And RUMLog is free.

73, Mike NF4L

> On Jul 10, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Byron Peebles <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> With my migration from TenTec to Elecraft, I was planning to also move my logging and station control from Windows to MacOSX. I have found sources like DogParkRadio to be tempting, but I wanted to check with Elecraft users on which packages best support the K3 (and upcoming K3S).
>
> I use mostly HF CW/SSB, but rotor control (M2),, LoTW, DX Cluster integration are important. And I might try other digital modes in the future.
>
> 73, Byron
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