I have purchased together with my K2 an MH2 microphone short before it
was discontinued two years ago. The reports I receive always state, that the mike has too much bass. The filters of my K2 were checked with spectrogram and - to me - appear correct. In parallel I have tried a cheap boomset with an electret-mike. That resulted in unfavourable reports like "sounds like a c-class-amplifier. Too little bias current". So I checked the bias and it is ok. Well - I?m looking for a good alternative now, but which one to select? Go for a Heil Proset K2? I figure, that one contains the Heil iC-electret-capsule. But what are the specs? Go and replace the electret-capsule of my MD2 with a Heil HC-5-capsule? What disadvantages will I have with such solution regarding frequency response as the HC-5 apparently is a dynamic or condenser mike? Can anybody share his experience with me? 73 Karsten DK4AS K2 #4764 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
I recently went back through and addressed my SSB alingments. A couple
of important pieces of information that were passed to me, were; A- set the bottom of the passband, so it starts a 300hz. This is a very near thing and relates closely to B. I found, to get B correct, that I had to set it so somewhere between half and three quarters of the slope of the left side of the passband, was at the 300hz point. B- once you have set the passband (both upper and lower) stick a piece of wire in the antenna connection of another rig, and transmit K2 into a dummy load. You can then make changes as needed. I initially set the bottom of the left edge of the passband at 300hz, and the signals sounded high and pinched. I then went back, transmitting on the K2, and listening on another rig, and sorted it out. Make sure and perform this on U & L sidebands and check it out on each band. I had U sideband on 80m sounding good, even though this is not used, but then U sideband of 20m did not sound right. It is sounding more complicated that it really is. Once you start listening on the other rig, it comes together fairly quickly. Just be careful after all of this, if you have KDSP2 and the KPA100, putting it all back together. I knocked a SMT cap off of my KDSP2 and now it is KAPUT1. ;) - David Wilburn [hidden email] K4DGW K2 S/N 5982 On Sun, 2008-01-06 at 13:29 +0100, Karsten Eppert (DK4AS) wrote: > I have purchased together with my K2 an MH2 microphone short before it > was discontinued two years ago. > The reports I receive always state, that the mike has too much bass. > The filters of my K2 were checked with spectrogram and - to me - appear > correct. > > In parallel I have tried a cheap boomset with an electret-mike. That > resulted in unfavourable reports like "sounds like a c-class-amplifier. > Too little bias current". So I checked the bias and it is ok. > > Well - I?m looking for a good alternative now, but which one to select? > > Go for a Heil Proset K2? I figure, that one contains the Heil > iC-electret-capsule. But what are the specs? > > Go and replace the electret-capsule of my MD2 with a Heil HC-5-capsule? > What disadvantages will I have with such solution regarding frequency > response as the HC-5 apparently is a dynamic or condenser mike? > > Can anybody share his experience with me? > > 73 > Karsten > DK4AS > K2 #4764 > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I have a MH2, and going back and reviewing the SSB passband and filter
alignment helped me quite a bit. It sounds fine, though I heard through another on the list that they had success with their Proset with HC5 without the preamp. I tried it out with a friend listening, and it worked just fine, and is now what I use. I do notice that it is impacted by the nearness of the mic to my mouth, so it would likely have more dynamic activity with a preamp, but I am driving to a full signal with the current setup. If you are not getting good reports with the MH2, then switching to another, similar mic (or even the HC5) will not help. First thing you need to do is check you passband, make sure they start at 300hz and then listen to both U & L sideband on another rig. - David Wilburn [hidden email] K4DGW K2 S/N 5982 On Sun, 2008-01-06 at 13:29 +0100, Karsten Eppert (DK4AS) wrote: > I have purchased together with my K2 an MH2 microphone short before it > was discontinued two years ago. > The reports I receive always state, that the mike has too much bass. > The filters of my K2 were checked with spectrogram and - to me - appear > correct. > > In parallel I have tried a cheap boomset with an electret-mike. That > resulted in unfavourable reports like "sounds like a c-class-amplifier. > Too little bias current". So I checked the bias and it is ok. > > Well - I?m looking for a good alternative now, but which one to select? > > Go for a Heil Proset K2? I figure, that one contains the Heil > iC-electret-capsule. But what are the specs? > > Go and replace the electret-capsule of my MD2 with a Heil HC-5-capsule? > What disadvantages will I have with such solution regarding frequency > response as the HC-5 apparently is a dynamic or condenser mike? > > Can anybody share his experience with me? > > 73 > Karsten > DK4AS > K2 #4764 > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In a message dated 1/6/2008 6:21:57 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes: I have a MH2, and going back and reviewing the SSB passband and filter alignment helped me quite a bit. It sounds fine, though I heard through another on the list that they had success with their Proset with HC5 without the preamp. I tried it out with a friend listening, and it worked just fine, and is now what I use. I do notice that it is impacted by the nearness of the mic to my mouth, so it would likely have more dynamic activity with a preamp, but I am driving to a full signal with the current setup. If you are not getting good reports with the MH2, then switching to another, similar mic (or even the HC5) will not help. First thing you need to do is check you passband, make sure they start at 300hz and then listen to both U & L sideband on another rig. - David Wilburn [hidden email] K4DGW K2 S/N 5982 On Sun, 2008-01-06 at 13:29 +0100, Karsten Eppert (DK4AS) wrote: > I have purchased together with my K2 an MH2 microphone short before it > was discontinued two years ago. > The reports I receive always state, that the mike has too much bass. > The filters of my K2 were checked with spectrogram and - to me - appear > correct. > > In parallel I have tried a cheap boomset with an electret-mike. That > resulted in unfavourable reports like "sounds like a c-class-amplifier. > Too little bias current". So I checked the bias and it is ok. > > Well - I?m looking for a good alternative now, but which one to select? > > Go for a Heil Proset K2? I figure, that one contains the Heil > iC-electret-capsule. But what are the specs? > > Go and replace the electret-capsule of my MD2 with a Heil HC-5-capsule? > What disadvantages will I have with such solution regarding frequency > response as the HC-5 apparently is a dynamic or condenser mike? > > Can anybody share his experience with me? > > 73 > Karsten > DK4AS > K2 #4764 > _______________________________________________ I have run the Proset HC5 and the Elecraft Proset Which has an electret mic element and found them to both work well and also sound very much alike. I ran the checks while beta testing the IMA (Internal Mic Adapter) produced by UN-PCB. _http://www.unpcbs.com/_ (http://www.unpcbs.com/) Al WA6VNN **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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