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On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 22:08:28 -0500, Matthew D. Pitts wrote:
>I'd rather say it's the "fault" of the ITU, if you want the >truth. They were the ones to let the code go back in 2003. It didn't happen by accident. It happened because amateur groups around the world persuaded their Administrations to proipose the change. That's how things get done at the ITU - member Administrations have to propose additions or changes to the Radio Regulations, and then it's woted on during a World Radio Conference. "The little bird" told me that the only reason that the FCC held back from doing it on their own was that it was already percolating its way through the ITU, and the only reason that it wasn't dropped the day after the ITU change went into effect (as I had proposed five years ago) was sheer bureaucracy, not any desire to retain the test. This does not mean that CW is banned or eliminated, just that it is not tested, just as any other mode's skills are not tested either. -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Matthew D. Pitts
FCC commissioners and bureau heads today are usually lawyers, not technical
types. The commissioners probably have never been technical types since they are political appointees. Stuart K5KVH _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: Morse test elimination
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Over the past year, I've given presentations to many middle school
groups, and like Dave, I find that the kids are fascinated by Morse Code. They don't care if it's ancient technology--it's fun! We should all start doing this if we want CW to not just survive, but thrive. 73! Dan KB6NU ---------------------------------------------------------- CW Geek and MI Affiliated Club Coordinator Read my ham radio blog at www.kb6nu.com LET'S GET MORE KIDS INTO HAM RADIO! On Dec 17, 2006, at 10:48 AM, David Cutter wrote: > I did an all day demo at a local kids school (<11 years old) and > they enjoyed most of what we did. But what they really lapped up > was being taught to send and receive Morse Code across the class > room and into adjacent rooms. I was astonished at how quickly they > caught on and how they enjoyed it. They didn't know it is > "irrelevant" to today's information society, it was just fun. > > Similarly, a friend told me that in some RN ships they still teach > Morse by lamp just for the fun of it. > > Developing a skill for its own sake is not logical, but it works. > > David > G3UNA > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Larsen" <[hidden email]> > To: "VR2BrettGraham" <[hidden email]> > Cc: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 12:52 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Morse test elimination > > >> Guys, the ARRL almost caused a revolt in FCC-Wireless. They were >> being visited by ARRL people daily. They are lawyers and they are >> trying to kill Internet on power lines, and push band planning and >> morse code testing removal. >> >> Then after they GOT the band plan they pushed it was discovered >> ARRL goofed. They made too much space near the CW/Digital bands >> Extra Class. But then wait. It will be simple to get a Extra Class >> license. No 20 WPM send and receive, hard written stuff, it is >> just some multiple guess questions now. >> >> The ARRL keeps sending me mail which says they need big bucks >> to keep the lawyers in Washington. Will I send a hundred bucks? I >> throw away to letter. >> >> All the fun I have had teaching code to people is over. My last >> effort was fun because I had a 5 year old girl. She had little >> trouble with the code, but she had not learned how to write down a >> Z or A. >> >> So all this is over. Well I'm almost over too. >> >> 72 73 Karl K5DI >> > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In message <[hidden email]>, Dan KB6NU
<[hidden email]> writes >> >> Similarly, a friend told me that in some RN ships they still teach >>Morse by lamp just for the fun of it. Its not taught in the Royal Navy for the fun of it or just in some ships. Morse by flashing light is still considered an essential skill which is taught by the RN and used on a regular basis. It is by far the most secure method for short range comms. I suspect the same applies in the USN. Trev G3ZYY -- Trevor Day Sunny Saltash _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Dan Romanchik KB6NU
Thanks to Dan, KB6NU and his license class, my son Mike, KD8DKT got his
General ticket in April. He took the course specifically so that he could work PSK31 and other digital modes, which he has been listening to for years. What's his favorite mode now? CW! 73, Larry N8LP Dan KB6NU wrote: > Over the past year, I've given presentations to many middle school > groups, and like Dave, I find that the kids are fascinated by Morse > Code. They don't care if it's ancient technology--it's fun! We should > all start doing this if we want CW to not just survive, but thrive. > > 73! > > Dan KB6NU > ---------------------------------------------------------- > CW Geek and MI Affiliated Club Coordinator > Read my ham radio blog at www.kb6nu.com > LET'S GET MORE KIDS INTO HAM RADIO! > > > > On Dec 17, 2006, at 10:48 AM, David Cutter wrote: > >> I did an all day demo at a local kids school (<11 years old) and they >> enjoyed most of what we did. But what they really lapped up was >> being taught to send and receive Morse Code across the class room and >> into adjacent rooms. I was astonished at how quickly they caught on >> and how they enjoyed it. They didn't know it is "irrelevant" to >> today's information society, it was just fun. >> >> Similarly, a friend told me that in some RN ships they still teach >> Morse by lamp just for the fun of it. >> >> Developing a skill for its own sake is not logical, but it works. >> >> David >> G3UNA >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Larsen" <[hidden email]> >> To: "VR2BrettGraham" <[hidden email]> >> Cc: <[hidden email]> >> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 12:52 PM >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Morse test elimination >> >> >>> Guys, the ARRL almost caused a revolt in FCC-Wireless. They were >>> being visited by ARRL people daily. They are lawyers and they are >>> trying to kill Internet on power lines, and push band planning and >>> morse code testing removal. >>> >>> Then after they GOT the band plan they pushed it was discovered >>> ARRL goofed. They made too much space near the CW/Digital bands >>> Extra Class. But then wait. It will be simple to get a Extra Class >>> license. No 20 WPM send and receive, hard written stuff, it is just >>> some multiple guess questions now. >>> >>> The ARRL keeps sending me mail which says they need big bucks to >>> keep the lawyers in Washington. Will I send a hundred bucks? I throw >>> away to letter. >>> >>> All the fun I have had teaching code to people is over. My last >>> effort was fun because I had a 5 year old girl. She had little >>> trouble with the code, but she had not learned how to write down a Z >>> or A. >>> >>> So all this is over. Well I'm almost over too. >>> >>> 72 73 Karl K5DI >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Post to: [hidden email] >> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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