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Stephen Zumbrun
Do you suppose we will ever be able to use the mouse with the P3 and SVGA monitor like the Flex people do? That would sure be nice. 73
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Re: Mouse and P3 SVGA

Nr4c
No. The P3 is not a computer.

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> On May 25, 2017, at 7:11 PM, zumbruns <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Do you suppose we will ever be able to use the mouse with the P3 and SVGA monitor like the Flex people do? That would sure be nice. 73
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Re: Mouse and P3 SVGA

Clay Autery
There is an aweful lot of room in that box....  put a Rasberry Pi in
there and interface it with the board the knobs and buttons are on....
There's a new one on the market now 1/4 the size of the Pi...
I know it's not a trivial exercise, but it should be doable...   And I
can think of at least 2 ways to approach the solution.

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On 5/25/2017 7:25 PM, Nr4c wrote:
> No. The P3 is not a computer.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
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>> On May 25, 2017, at 7:11 PM, zumbruns <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Do you suppose we will ever be able to use the mouse with the P3 and SVGA monitor like the Flex people do? That would sure be nice. 73

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Re: Mouse and P3 SVGA

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Re: Mouse and P3 SVGA

k6dgw
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There are a large [possibly infinite?] number of ways to "do" most
everything.  Driving faster than light may be one of the exceptions.  
Doing them profitably over a sufficient period of time is another
difficult challenge.

73,

Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn

On 5/25/2017 5:40 PM, Clay Autery wrote:

> There is an aweful lot of room in that box....  put a Rasberry Pi in
> there and interface it with the board the knobs and buttons are on....
> There's a new one on the market now 1/4 the size of the Pi...
> I know it's not a trivial exercise, but it should be doable...   And I
> can think of at least 2 ways to approach the solution.
>
> ______________________
> Clay Autery, KY5G
> MONTAC Enterprises
> (318) 518-1389
>
> On 5/25/2017 7:25 PM, Nr4c wrote:
>> No. The P3 is not a computer.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
>>
>>
>>> On May 25, 2017, at 7:11 PM, zumbruns <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Do you suppose we will ever be able to use the mouse with the P3 and SVGA monitor like the Flex people do? That would sure be nice. 73
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Mouse and P3 SVGA

w0sz
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There is a lot of room in the P3 box. Put a small microprocessor in there that would control a mouse. Why not? Sure would make the P3 and SVGA work better. 73
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Re: Mouse and P3 SVGA

John K9UWA-2
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If the P3 with SVGA had the Point and Shoot selectable VFO's I would
purchase a P3.
John k9uwa


>> Do you suppose we will ever be able to use the mouse with the P3 and SVGA
>> monitor like the Flex people do? That would sure be nice. 73


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Re: Mouse and P3 SVGA

Jerry Moore
same

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Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:26 AM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Mouse and P3 SVGA

If the P3 with SVGA had the Point and Shoot selectable VFO's I would
purchase a P3.
John k9uwa


>> Do you suppose we will ever be able to use the mouse with the P3 and SVGA
>> monitor like the Flex people do? That would sure be nice. 73


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Re: Mouse and P3 SVGA

Jorge Diez - CX6VM-2
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look at it  http://www.elecraft.com/P3/p3.htm

then decide if its what you are looking for. If not, you can try other
options

73,
Jorge
CX6VM/CW5W

2017-05-26 9:25 GMT-03:00 John K9UWA <[hidden email]>:

> If the P3 with SVGA had the Point and Shoot selectable VFO's I would
> purchase a P3.
> John k9uwa
>
>
> >> Do you suppose we will ever be able to use the mouse with the P3 and
> SVGA
> >> monitor like the Flex people do? That would sure be nice. 73
>
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Re: Mouse and P3 SVGA

Joe Stone (KF5WBO)
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> Do you suppose we will ever be able to use the mouse with the P3 and SVGA

(first requested August 2009 and once every few months ever since)

The P3/PX3 already supports USB HID (Human Interface Device).  The firmware currently receives and ignores mouse reports.

Note: The K-Pod is HID-compliant.  In addition to P3/PX3 mouse support, you may want to request K-Pod support.

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Re: Mouse and P3 SVGA

George Thornton
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I have tried other computer based panadapters and I now have the P3 with SVGA.

I found that mediating through a computer using a sound card creates configuration issues and results in occasional operating headaches.

By contrast, the P3 is specialized hardware and connection is more reliable and consistent.  I spend less time fussing with equipment to make sure it is set up correctly, and more time actually working with the spectrum images on the screen.

I have not used a full SDR radio.

I did find clicking with a mouse to change frequencies was helpful, but the convenience and reliability of the P3 to me far outweighed computer based panadapter solutions overall.

I also appreciate the options available for the P3.  I use the SVGA feature and a monitor to enhance audience viewing at my Field Day station.  The TX monitor has also been useful in viewing and diagnosing transmission signals as well as better visualizing SWR and power output measurements.



From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:14 AM
To: [hidden email]
Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Mouse and P3 SVGA

look at it http://www.elecraft.com/P3/p3.htm

then decide if its what you are looking for. If not, you can try other
options

73,
Jorge
CX6VM/CW5W

2017-05-26 9:25 GMT-03:00 John K9UWA <[hidden email]>:<mailto:[hidden email]%3e:>

> If the P3 with SVGA had the Point and Shoot selectable VFO's I would
> purchase a P3.
> John k9uwa
>
>
> >> Do you suppose we will ever be able to use the mouse with the P3 and
> SVGA
> >> monitor like the Flex people do? That would sure be nice. 73
>
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Re: Mouse and P3 SVGA

Dave Fugleberg
I second that. Having tried a couple other panadapter solutions I found the
P3 to be the most reliable with the least amount of hassle. The one
shortcoming in my mind is using the tiny knob to QSY... Full mouse support
would be welcome.
I've found that the small screen works better than anticipated, so have not
added the SVGA option. Maybe someday.
Another worthy contender is the built in SDRPlay support in Win4K3 Suite.
It, too is pretty much plug and play, and gives you the point and click
mouse support. I have mine connected to the IF output of the P3, and can
use them in tandem when desired.
On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 10:41 AM George Thornton <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> I have tried other computer based panadapters and I now have the P3 with
> SVGA.
>
> I found that mediating through a computer using a sound card creates
> configuration issues and results in occasional operating headaches.
>
> By contrast, the P3 is specialized hardware and connection is more
> reliable and consistent.  I spend less time fussing with equipment to make
> sure it is set up correctly, and more time actually working with the
> spectrum images on the screen.
>
> I have not used a full SDR radio.
>
> I did find clicking with a mouse to change frequencies was helpful, but
> the convenience and reliability of the P3 to me far outweighed computer
> based panadapter solutions overall.
>
> I also appreciate the options available for the P3.  I use the SVGA
> feature and a monitor to enhance audience viewing at my Field Day station.
> The TX monitor has also been useful in viewing and diagnosing transmission
> signals as well as better visualizing SWR and power output measurements.
>
>
>
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> Jorge Diez - CX6VM
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:14 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Mouse and P3 SVGA
>
> look at it http://www.elecraft.com/P3/p3.htm
>
> then decide if its what you are looking for. If not, you can try other
> options
>
> 73,
> Jorge
> CX6VM/CW5W
>
> 2017-05-26 9:25 GMT-03:00 John K9UWA <[hidden email]
> >:<mailto:[hidden email]%3e:>
>
> > If the P3 with SVGA had the Point and Shoot selectable VFO's I would
> > purchase a P3.
> > John k9uwa
> >
> >
> > >> Do you suppose we will ever be able to use the mouse with the P3 and
> > SVGA
> > >> monitor like the Flex people do? That would sure be nice. 73
> >
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Re: Mouse and P3 SVGA

George Thornton
I second that the small screen is more than adequate and the larger screen not necessary for operation.

I like the bigger screen because it is useful when there are observers.  I run the GOTA field day station and it is great for training a group.

From: Dave Fugleberg [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 10:31 AM
To: George Thornton <[hidden email]>; Jorge Diez - CX6VM <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Mouse and P3 SVGA

I second that. Having tried a couple other panadapter solutions I found the P3 to be the most reliable with the least amount of hassle. The one shortcoming in my mind is using the tiny knob to QSY... Full mouse support would be welcome.
I've found that the small screen works better than anticipated, so have not added the SVGA option. Maybe someday.
Another worthy contender is the built in SDRPlay support in Win4K3 Suite. It, too is pretty much plug and play, and gives you the point and click mouse support. I have mine connected to the IF output of the P3, and can use them in tandem when desired.
On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 10:41 AM George Thornton <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
I have tried other computer based panadapters and I now have the P3 with SVGA.

I found that mediating through a computer using a sound card creates configuration issues and results in occasional operating headaches.

By contrast, the P3 is specialized hardware and connection is more reliable and consistent.  I spend less time fussing with equipment to make sure it is set up correctly, and more time actually working with the spectrum images on the screen.

I have not used a full SDR radio.

I did find clicking with a mouse to change frequencies was helpful, but the convenience and reliability of the P3 to me far outweighed computer based panadapter solutions overall.

I also appreciate the options available for the P3.  I use the SVGA feature and a monitor to enhance audience viewing at my Field Day station.  The TX monitor has also been useful in viewing and diagnosing transmission signals as well as better visualizing SWR and power output measurements.



From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:14 AM
To: [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>
Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Mouse and P3 SVGA

look at it http://www.elecraft.com/P3/p3.htm

then decide if its what you are looking for. If not, you can try other
options

73,
Jorge
CX6VM/CW5W

2017-05-26 9:25 GMT-03:00 John K9UWA <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>>:<mailto:[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>%3e:>

> If the P3 with SVGA had the Point and Shoot selectable VFO's I would
> purchase a P3.
> John k9uwa
>
>
> >> Do you suppose we will ever be able to use the mouse with the P3 and
> SVGA
> >> monitor like the Flex people do? That would sure be nice. 73
>
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