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Edward R Cole
We bought a new truck this week: 2015 (new from dealer) Ford F250
crew cab diesel 4x4:
http://www.kl7uw.com/New_Rover_1.jpg

Saved $17K off msrp since it will be two years old when 2017 models
hit the sales floor.  Got 321 miles and getting 19.1 mpg (so far).

It will be outfitted with a dual-band VHF/UHF mobile and the
KX3+KXPA-100.  I have the 2M module so can operate 6m/2m SSB for roving/mobile.

We'll be adding a 5th wheel trailer next spring for doing a little
road tripping.

73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: My New Mobile

Jim Brown-10
On Sun,7/31/2016 11:00 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:
> I have the 2M module so can operate 6m/2m SSB for roving/mobile.

Do you work CW? It's a LOT more effective under the marginal conditions
that often exist on 6M/2M. Saw you spotted yesterday on the calling
frequency. That's a great place to monitor, but a terrible place to
operate. The good ops move off the calling frequency when the band is open.

73, Jim K9YC

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Re: My New Mobile

Ken Arck
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Man, if I could only fit all that in my Corvette <g>

Ken


At 11:00 AM 7/31/2016, Edward R Cole wrote:

>We bought a new truck this week: 2015 (new from dealer) Ford F250
>crew cab diesel 4x4:
>http://www.kl7uw.com/New_Rover_1.jpg
>
>Saved $17K off msrp since it will be two years old when 2017 models
>hit the sales floor.  Got 321 miles and getting 19.1 mpg (so far).
>
>It will be outfitted with a dual-band VHF/UHF mobile and the
>KX3+KXPA-100.  I have the 2M module so can operate 6m/2m SSB for roving/mobile.
>
>We'll be adding a 5th wheel trailer next spring for doing a little
>road tripping.
>
>73, Ed - KL7UW
>http://www.kl7uw.com
>     "Kits made by KL7UW"
>Dubus Mag business:
>     [hidden email]
>
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Re: My New Mobile

Rose
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Anyone I hear making QSO's on the calling frequency goes on my
"don't ever work" list posted on my desk, and will miss my somewhat
rare grid square. (DN36) (;-)

73

K0PP

On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Jim Brown <[hidden email]>
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> On Sun,7/31/2016 11:00 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:
>
>> I have the 2M module so can operate 6m/2m SSB for roving/mobile.
>>
>
> Do you work CW? It's a LOT more effective under the marginal conditions
> that often exist on 6M/2M. Saw you spotted yesterday on the calling
> frequency. That's a great place to monitor, but a terrible place to
> operate. The good ops move off the calling frequency when the band is open.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>
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Re: My New Mobile

Jim AB3CV
So if it is a calling frequency, who calls and what is the expected
behavior if the caller is answered within the "sometime seconds" of opening?

73

jim ab3cv

On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Rose <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Anyone I hear making QSO's on the calling frequency goes on my
> "don't ever work" list posted on my desk, and will miss my somewhat
> rare grid square. (DN36) (;-)
>
> 73
>
> K0PP
>
> On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Jim Brown <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > On Sun,7/31/2016 11:00 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:
> >
> >> I have the 2M module so can operate 6m/2m SSB for roving/mobile.
> >>
> >
> > Do you work CW? It's a LOT more effective under the marginal conditions
> > that often exist on 6M/2M. Saw you spotted yesterday on the calling
> > frequency. That's a great place to monitor, but a terrible place to
> > operate. The good ops move off the calling frequency when the band is
> open.
> >
> > 73, Jim K9YC
> >
> >
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Re: My New Mobile

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CALL, MOVE OFF.......
Mel, K6KBE


      From: Rose <[hidden email]>
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Anyone I hear making QSO's on the calling frequency goes on my
"don't ever work" list posted on my desk, and will miss my somewhat
rare grid square. (DN36) (;-)

73

K0PP

On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Jim Brown <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> On Sun,7/31/2016 11:00 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:
>
>> I have the 2M module so can operate 6m/2m SSB for roving/mobile.
>>
>
> Do you work CW? It's a LOT more effective under the marginal conditions
> that often exist on 6M/2M. Saw you spotted yesterday on the calling
> frequency. That's a great place to monitor, but a terrible place to
> operate. The good ops move off the calling frequency when the band is open.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>
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Re: My New Mobile

Wes Stewart-2
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Interesting attitudes. I agree that hogging a calling frequency is bad form.  
That said, an answered CQ could be responded to with, "K0PP DM42 from N7WS" in
no more time than, "K0PP I'm moving to 144.210."   If this was a meteor burst
there would be no QSO, but at least I wouldn't be on you s list.

I guess everyone should just monitor the calling frequency but never ever call
there. End of problem.


On 7/31/2016 11:57 AM, Rose wrote:

> Anyone I hear making QSO's on the calling frequency goes on my
> "don't ever work" list posted on my desk, and will miss my somewhat
> rare grid square. (DN36) (;-)
>
> 73
>
> K0PP
>
> On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Jim Brown <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun,7/31/2016 11:00 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:
>>
>>> I have the 2M module so can operate 6m/2m SSB for roving/mobile.
>>>
>> Do you work CW? It's a LOT more effective under the marginal conditions
>> that often exist on 6M/2M. Saw you spotted yesterday on the calling
>> frequency. That's a great place to monitor, but a terrible place to
>> operate. The good ops move off the calling frequency when the band is open.
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>>

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Re: My New Mobile

Edward R Cole
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Jim,

I'm long time* off CW so my receiving needs some work (practise)
before I try to do any significant CW (on any band).  *Long time
means 1958-59 when I was a Novice.

Certainly CW gets thru under marginal conditions. KL7YK was active
yesterday on 50.095.  And 50.125 is clobbered by QRM but this where
people monitor.  If I were to call in the blind at 50.130 or 50.140 I
could be totally missed in a short opening.  But sometimes I do QSY
up.  I would never try CW while mobile, though.

Someone "down there" needs to spot me onto another frequency for that
to work (usually).  I didn't stay on the logger after I started
working stations.  Plenty of others to do the spotting.

A couple years ago during the CQ VHF Contest I did some work at
50.260 on digital modes but not a lot of 6m folks do that, it
seems.  I will be trying some meteor scatter and eme on 6m after my
kW amp is running.

73, Ed - KL7UW

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On Sun,7/31/2016 11:00 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:
 > I have the 2M module so can operate 6m/2m SSB for roving/mobile.

Do you work CW? It's a LOT more effective under the marginal conditions
that often exist on 6M/2M. Saw you spotted yesterday on the calling
frequency. That's a great place to monitor, but a terrible place to
operate. The good ops move off the calling frequency when the band is open.

73, Jim K9YC


73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: My New Mobile

Charlie T, K3ICH
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The many beacons below 50.1 will tell you if the band is open,  and to
where.

73, Charlie k3ICH



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CALL, MOVE OFF.......
Mel, K6KBE


      From: Rose <[hidden email]>
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 Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 11:57 AM
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Anyone I hear making QSO's on the calling frequency goes on my "don't ever
work" list posted on my desk, and will miss my somewhat rare grid square.
(DN36) (;-)

73

K0PP

On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Jim Brown <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> On Sun,7/31/2016 11:00 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:
>
>> I have the 2M module so can operate 6m/2m SSB for roving/mobile.
>>
>
> Do you work CW? It's a LOT more effective under the marginal
> conditions that often exist on 6M/2M. Saw you spotted yesterday on the
> calling frequency. That's a great place to monitor, but a terrible
> place to operate. The good ops move off the calling frequency when the
band is open.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>
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Re: My New Mobile

Jim Brown-10
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On Sun,7/31/2016 12:09 PM, Jim Miller wrote:
> So if it is a calling frequency, who calls and what is the expected
> behavior if the caller is answered within the "sometime seconds" of opening?

When I use the calling frequency, it's when I hear few if any signals on
the band, and I announce a frequency up the band where I am listening.

Like K0PP, I refuse to work stations on the calling frequency.

Working on the calling frequency is bad in at least two important ways.
First, when you're using it, you often cover up other stations who want
to use it correctly. Second, because it's a calling frequency, others
who are using it, properly or improperly, will QRM you and the stations
calling you.

A year or two ago, an OT VHF operator working from a high QTH
overlooking Silicon Valley "Bogarted" the 6M and 2M calling frequencies
with high power for much of the contest that he won for our ARRL
division. If you wanted to use the calling frequency correctly, you
couldn't. I no longer work him during contests.

73, Jim K9YC

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Re: My New Mobile

Jim Brown-10
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On Sun,7/31/2016 12:24 PM, Edward R Cole wrote:
> Jim,
>
> I'm long time* off CW so my receiving needs some work (practise)
> before I try to do any significant CW (on any band).  *Long time means
> 1958-59 when I was a Novice.

CWOPS holds free classes online at three skill levels. They work well,
and there's a pretty long waiting list. Several of my friends have been
through them.

>
> Certainly CW gets thru under marginal conditions.

When W6JTI was in CM79, he was easy copy on CW, WAY above the noise.
When we switched to SSB a few minutes later, he was VERY rough copy. The
difference between CW and SSB is dramatic.

> KL7YK was active yesterday on 50.095.

I think all of my KL7 QSOs (3-4) have been on CW.

> And 50.125 is clobbered by QRM but this where people monitor.  If I
> were to call in the blind at 50.130 or 50.140 I could be totally
> missed in a short opening.

That was certainly true years ago, but with the increasingly widespread
use of panadapters and other spectrum displays, Skimmers, and spotting
clusters, you're going to get spotted almost no matter where you
operate! There are dozens of skimmers around NA on 6M. There are lots of
K3s and KX3s on 6M, many of them with P3s. Also SDRs and rigs with LP-Pan.

> A couple years ago during the CQ VHF Contest I did some work at 50.260
> on digital modes but not a lot of 6m folks do that, it seems.  I will
> be trying some meteor scatter and eme on 6m after my kW amp is running.

For years, digital mode skeds have been coordinated via chat rooms.
ON4KST and Ping Jockey are the most popular that I know of. JT65 has
firmly established operating frequencies on all the ham bands up to at
least 2M. On 6M, it's USB with a dial frequency of 50.276 MHz, and 2 kHz
higher for JT9.  WSJT-X, the most popular software application for JT65
and JT9, can be set to automatically spot all decoded signals to
PSKReporter, and many JT65 operators spot signals heard to a DX cluster.

If you load VE7CC's excellent CCluster application on your Windoze
machine, it's easy to set it to display only 6M and 2M spots, and only
those in parts of the world that you care about. dxmaps.com displays a
map of the last hour or so of cluster spots on a map.  As I write this,
there are spots from the western US to KL7HBK and WL7X, and much of the
eastern US is working VP2ETE.

73, Jim K9YC

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