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New Contest Transceiver

W7is
If your interested in seeing the latest offering of a
contest  grade transceiver,  take a look at this link.
Reading their  brochure is a real hoot!!     During the next
10 days it will be making its official debut.  

http://www.icomamerica.com/en/downloads/Default.aspx?Category=180
 



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Re: New Contest Transceiver

Simon (HB9DRV)
A very nice front panel with a bandscope for watching those 6m / 10m
openings, it is shipping in Europe already.

+ Extensive CAT support.
+ The most visually appealing new radio I have seen for quite a while.

- Very slow website at the moment :-(

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

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> If your interested in seeing the latest offering of a
> contest  grade transceiver,  take a look at this link.
> Reading their  brochure is a real hoot!!     During the next
> 10 days it will be making its official debut.
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> http://www.icomamerica.com/en/downloads/Default.aspx?Category=180
 

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Re: New Contest Transceiver

Shaun Oliver
I bet it's got a nice price tag too.


On 18/03/2008 7:12 PM, the old scribe known as Simon Brown (HB9DRV) was
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> A very nice front panel with a bandscope for watching those 6m / 10m
> openings, it is shipping in Europe already.
>
> + Extensive CAT support.
> + The most visually appealing new radio I have seen for quite a while.
>
> - Very slow website at the moment :-(
>
> Simon Brown, HB9DRV
>
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>> If your interested in seeing the latest offering of a
>> contest  grade transceiver,  take a look at this link.
>> Reading their  brochure is a real hoot!!     During the next
>> 10 days it will be making its official debut.
>>
>> http://www.icomamerica.com/en/downloads/Default.aspx?Category=180
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Re: New Contest Transceiver

Simon (HB9DRV)
About $6k, GBP 3,400 + tax.

+ Scans 6m
- No IF Shift / Width adjust knobs (does have LO / HI though).

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

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> I bet it's got a nice price tag too.
 
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Re: New Contest Transceiver

Bill W4ZV
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W7is wrote
If your interested in seeing the latest offering of a
contest  grade transceiver,  take a look at this link.
Reading their  brochure is a real hoot!!     During the next
10 days it will be making its official debut.  
Not news.  IC-7700 was announced about the same time (i.e. Dayton last year) as the K3.  You too can spend twice as much as a K3, with no Sub RX and get worse performance.  I'm sure the contest gang will gobble these up...NOT.  You could buy 2 fully K3s outfitted for SO2R for less than one IC-7700...but it sure is pretty!  ;-)

73,  Bill
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Re: New Contest Transceiver

Shaun Oliver
I'm sorry to sound like some kind of whining bitch, but, is it me, or is
amateur radio fast becoming a pissing contest of sorts to see who has
the flashiest rig at the cost of a new car. I for one refuse to spend
that amount of money on a hobby I know I'll get alot of fun out of. I'm
not completely sure about contests and what place they hold within the
amateur community, but I'm sure there's a place and a reason for them.
hell, I might even try my hand at a couple when I finally gain me ticket.
you don't need the latest icom or kenwood or yaesu, which you'd have to
take out a mortgage to own, half the fun as far as I'm concerned is
working with what you have. and sometimes, that might be a pile of cow
shit, some duct tape, fencing wire for a feeder and a couple of aluminum
coke cans for a matching circuit, and an old valve radio that's been
beaten to death and still manages to put out it's full power. if the
above works, why change?
me, I'm all for having a nice long chat with the fellas and working a
little dx occasionally. I use to like to do that on the chocolate box
but, there's too many fools there for that to be any fun anymore.
sorry if I sound whiney but, yeah there you have it, my 2 cents worth.


On 18/03/2008 9:47 PM, the old scribe known as Bill W4ZV was able to
impart this pearl of wisdom:

>
>
> W7is wrote:
>> If your interested in seeing the latest offering of a
>> contest  grade transceiver,  take a look at this link.
>> Reading their  brochure is a real hoot!!     During the next
>> 10 days it will be making its official debut.  
>>
>
> Not news.  IC-7700 was announced about the same time (i.e. Dayton last year)
> as the K3.  You too can spend twice as much as a K3, with no Sub RX and get
> worse performance.  I'm sure the contest gang will gobble these up...NOT.
> You could buy 2 fully K3s outfitted for SO2R for less than one IC-7700...but
> it sure is pretty!  ;-)
>
> 73,  Bill
>
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Re: New Contest Transceiver

Julian, G4ILO
Shaun Oliver wrote
I'm sorry to sound like some kind of whining bitch, but, is it me, or is
amateur radio fast becoming a pissing contest of sorts to see who has
the flashiest rig at the cost of a new car. I for one refuse to spend
that amount of money on a hobby I know I'll get alot of fun out of. I'm
not completely sure about contests and what place they hold within the
amateur community, but I'm sure there's a place and a reason for them.
hell, I might even try my hand at a couple when I finally gain me ticket.
you don't need the latest icom or kenwood or yaesu, which you'd have to
take out a mortgage to own, half the fun as far as I'm concerned is
working with what you have. and sometimes, that might be a pile of cow
shit, some duct tape, fencing wire for a feeder and a couple of aluminum
coke cans for a matching circuit, and an old valve radio that's been
beaten to death and still manages to put out it's full power. if the
above works, why change?
me, I'm all for having a nice long chat with the fellas and working a
little dx occasionally. I use to like to do that on the chocolate box
but, there's too many fools there for that to be any fun anymore.
sorry if I sound whiney but, yeah there you have it, my 2 cents worth.
I see where you're coming from, Shaun, and I for one totally agree with you. I think the simpler the equipment the greater the feeling of achievement. Of course, a K2 or K3 is not exactly simple. I have an MFJ Cub transceiver that I get out from time to time and I really get a kick out of the QSOs I make with it. I'd probably use it more if I wasn't embarrassed by the fact that it drifts rather a lot (and I lack the time, patience, knowledge and parts bin to try to do anything about it.)
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392  K3 #222 KX3 #110
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Re: New Contest Transceiver

Shaun Oliver
don't get me wrong, the newer radios have their place. case in point,
the kenwood ts480 and the ts2000 with a vs3 board, a blind ham could use
the things with little fuss. I will eventually be a blind ham also but
I'm opting for an older radio because I'm on a strict budget. I'm
currently looking at the yaesu ft201 and a 101b. I use to own a 101b and
it wasn't a bad radio, but between that and the old 520 I use to own,
let's just say I still miss that 520. I'm going to have a look at that
201 this weekend so hopefully I'll be ready for when I get licensed. I'm
opting for foundation license for now because it's quick and easy to
obtain and I'm pants when it comes to alot of electronics and antenna
theory.


On 18/03/2008 10:13 PM, the old scribe known as G4ILO was able to impart
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>
> Shaun Oliver wrote:
>> I'm sorry to sound like some kind of whining bitch, but, is it me, or is
>> amateur radio fast becoming a pissing contest of sorts to see who has
>> the flashiest rig at the cost of a new car. I for one refuse to spend
>> that amount of money on a hobby I know I'll get alot of fun out of. I'm
>> not completely sure about contests and what place they hold within the
>> amateur community, but I'm sure there's a place and a reason for them.
>> hell, I might even try my hand at a couple when I finally gain me ticket.
>> you don't need the latest icom or kenwood or yaesu, which you'd have to
>> take out a mortgage to own, half the fun as far as I'm concerned is
>> working with what you have. and sometimes, that might be a pile of cow
>> shit, some duct tape, fencing wire for a feeder and a couple of aluminum
>> coke cans for a matching circuit, and an old valve radio that's been
>> beaten to death and still manages to put out it's full power. if the
>> above works, why change?
>> me, I'm all for having a nice long chat with the fellas and working a
>> little dx occasionally. I use to like to do that on the chocolate box
>> but, there's too many fools there for that to be any fun anymore.
>> sorry if I sound whiney but, yeah there you have it, my 2 cents worth.
>>
> I see where you're coming from, Shaun, and I for one totally agree with you.
> I think the simpler the equipment the greater the feeling of achievement. Of
> course, a K2 or K3 is not exactly simple. I have an MFJ Cub transceiver that
> I get out from time to time and I really get a kick out of the QSOs I make
> with it. I'd probably use it more if I wasn't embarrassed by the fact that
> it drifts rather a lot (and I lack the time, patience, knowledge and parts
> bin to try to do anything about it.)
>
> -----
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Re: New Contest Transceiver

Brendan Minish
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Hmm,

if you adjust for inflation this new 7700 is a bit cheaper in real terms
in Europe than the Kenwood TS940SAT was at launch time.

the 7700 is a much better featured radio than the 940.

73
Brendan EI6IZ


On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 21:58 +1100, Shaun Oliver wrote:

> I'm sorry to sound like some kind of whining bitch, but, is it me, or is
> amateur radio fast becoming a pissing contest of sorts to see who has
> the flashiest rig at the cost of a new car. I for one refuse to spend
> that amount of money on a hobby I know I'll get alot of fun out of. I'm
> not completely sure about contests and what place they hold within the
> amateur community, but I'm sure there's a place and a reason for them.
> hell, I might even try my hand at a couple when I finally gain me ticket.
> you don't need the latest icom or kenwood or yaesu, which you'd have to
> take out a mortgage to own, half the fun as far as I'm concerned is
> working with what you have. and sometimes, that might be a pile of cow
> shit, some duct tape, fencing wire for a feeder and a couple of aluminum
> coke cans for a matching circuit, and an old valve radio that's been
> beaten to death and still manages to put out it's full power. if the
> above works, why change?
> me, I'm all for having a nice long chat with the fellas and working a
> little dx occasionally. I use to like to do that on the chocolate box
> but, there's too many fools there for that to be any fun anymore.
> sorry if I sound whiney but, yeah there you have it, my 2 cents worth.
>
>
> On 18/03/2008 9:47 PM, the old scribe known as Bill W4ZV was able to
> impart this pearl of wisdom:
> >
> >
> > W7is wrote:
> >> If your interested in seeing the latest offering of a
> >> contest  grade transceiver,  take a look at this link.
> >> Reading their  brochure is a real hoot!!     During the next
> >> 10 days it will be making its official debut.  
> >>
> >
> > Not news.  IC-7700 was announced about the same time (i.e. Dayton last year)
> > as the K3.  You too can spend twice as much as a K3, with no Sub RX and get
> > worse performance.  I'm sure the contest gang will gobble these up...NOT.
> > You could buy 2 fully K3s outfitted for SO2R for less than one IC-7700...but
> > it sure is pretty!  ;-)
> >
> > 73,  Bill
> >
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Re: New Contest Transceiver

k4tmc
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I wonder if that is the rig that the Clipperton group is using right now?

I can just see the ads come Dayton time....

73,
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Re: New Contest Transceiver

Tom AK2B
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With a 7 inch (800 X 480) TFT color display, it's a shame you can't watch YouTube. Maybe on the II or III version.

Tom, AK2B
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Re: New Contest Transceiver

Buck - k4ia
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I saw one at Dayton last year at the Contest University.  It is as big  as a
suitcase.  The guy from Icom characterized it as a 7800 without the  second
receiver.  Yawn Snore

I'll be keeping my K3, thank you.

Buck
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Re: New Contest Transceiver

N8XPQ
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Nice looking rig,

However....it still only has 1 receiver. Elecraft stated they will eventually have a pan adaptor/bandscope option for the K3. If you've read the recent test results, the K3 meets and sometimes, beats the 7700's big brother. And to add insult to injury, I dare venture that one could purchase 2 fully loaded K3's for the sticker shock price of the new kid on the block.

Prove me wrong????


W7is wrote
If your interested in seeing the latest offering of a
contest  grade transceiver,  take a look at this link.
Reading their  brochure is a real hoot!!     During the next
10 days it will be making its official debut.  

http://www.icomamerica.com/en/downloads/Default.aspx?Category=180
 



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RE: New Contest Transceiver

Darwin, Keith
You guys have it all wrong.

The IC-7700 is CLEARLY the better choice.  No question.

K3 is $2000 - $3000.  I can *almost* afford that.  It's a great rig so
I'm tempted.  Ah, what the hey, I'll just order one.  Tension with XYL
ensues, finances are stressed, life becomes a bit more difficult.

IC-7700 is $937,295 (or some out-of-reach number).  It's not nearly as
good of a deal.  I'm not tempted.  No order is placed, no tension with
the XYL, no financial stress on the family.  In fact, not having one
means I don't even need an antenna or power supply or key.  That rig
would sure save me a lot of heart ache!

Curses Elecraft
Curses K3
Curses Visa / MasterCard / Discover

Woe is me.

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Re: New Contest Transceiver

Gary D Krause
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I agree with you also, Julian.  I've always thought keeping it simple is the
key to many things.  I still have a couple of older rigs that I love to
operate along with my K2.  They don't have the bells and whistles that the
modern rigs have.  I've noticed that along with the computer age, the new rigs
seem to have their own set of problems.  You can't tell if a person is using a
high priced rig or a simple homebrew rig when it comes to CW.  SSB may be
another story but, for the most part the focus is primarily on the receiver.
 Even then, the most important part of the station is still the antenna, in my
opinion.

Gary, N7HTS


> I see where you're coming from, Shaun, and I for one totally agree with you.
> I think the simpler the equipment the greater the feeling of achievement. Of
> course, a K2 or K3 is not exactly simple. I have an MFJ Cub transceiver that
> I get out from time to time and I really get a kick out of the QSOs I make
> with it. I'd probably use it more if I wasn't embarrassed by the fact that
> it drifts rather a lot (and I lack the time, patience, knowledge and parts
> bin to try to do anything about it.)
>
> -----
> Julian, G4ILO  K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392
> G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com
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Re: New Contest Transceiver

w7aqk
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I believe they were using Pro III's.

Dave W7AQK

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>
> I wonder if that is the rig that the Clipperton group is
> using right now?
>
> I can just see the ads come Dayton time....
>
> 73,
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Re: New Contest Transceiver

Alexandr Kobranov
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...and no "Auto CW" function

big MINUS, nothing for me, sorry ;-)

73!
L. -dst-


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> About $6k, GBP 3,400 + tax.
> + Scans 6m
> - No IF Shift / Width adjust knobs (does have LO / HI though).
>
> Simon Brown, HB9DRV
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RE: New Contest Transceiver

Joe Subich, W4TV-3
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> However....it still only has 1 receiver.

Not only does it have only one receiver - it does not even
have "dual watch" from the ProIII.

Sorry, Icom - the 7700 is an overpriced dog.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV
 


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> Nice looking rig,
>
> However....it still only has 1 receiver. Elecraft stated they
> will eventually have a pan adaptor/bandscope option for the
> K3. If you've read the recent test results, the K3 meets and
> sometimes, beats the 7700's big brother. And to add insult to
> injury, I dare venture that one could purchase 2 fully loaded
> K3's for the sticker shock price of the new kid on the block.
>
> Prove me wrong????
>
>
>
> W7is wrote:
> >
> > If your interested in seeing the latest offering of a
> > contest  grade transceiver,  take a look at this link.
> > Reading their  brochure is a real hoot!!     During the next
> > 10 days it will be making its official debut.  
> >
> > http://www.icomamerica.com/en/downloads/Default.aspx?Category=180
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RE: New Contest Transceiver

Joe Subich, W4TV-3
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> I wonder if that is the rig that the Clipperton group is
> using right now?

No, they were using the ProIII.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV
 


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> I wonder if that is the rig that the Clipperton group is
> using right now?
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> I can just see the ads come Dayton time....
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> 73,
> Henry - K4TMC
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Re: New Contest Transceiver

w5tvw
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The Japanese seemed to have gone "ape" on whistles and bells on the new
radios!  I enjoy some contests, but the "contest" thing has gotten way out
of hand to my thinking.  On weekends, what used to be "normal" ragchew
get-togethers have gotten to be battle the contesters for a space just to
"talk"!  I have also seen a lot of talk about computer controlled automatic
"loggers" that also answer calls and make your contacts for you with little
intervention.  What's the challenge there?  I do enjoy some "sprints" on
QRP, but there are too many contests nowadays for a fellow to find a spot on
the band to "shoot the bull" like we did in the "old days".

Since the FCC decided to throw away Morse code, courtesy has all but
disappeared, and contests have almost totally taken over.  There is little
places to go and have a CW QSO anymore.  Most of the CW ops nowadays seem to
be contesters so you either join them or stay off the air.  There seems to
be no place to go anymore on HF.

I don't think I will be even thinking of buying a K3 or especially an
IC-7700 unless I win the Lottery now.  It's hard enough buying gasoline to
attend hamfests now.

73,

Sandy W5TVW
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To: "Bill W4ZV" <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 5:58 AM
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> I'm sorry to sound like some kind of whining bitch, but, is it me, or is
> amateur radio fast becoming a pissing contest of sorts to see who has the
> flashiest rig at the cost of a new car. I for one refuse to spend that
> amount of money on a hobby I know I'll get alot of fun out of. I'm not
> completely sure about contests and what place they hold within the amateur
> community, but I'm sure there's a place and a reason for them. hell, I
> might even try my hand at a couple when I finally gain me ticket.
> you don't need the latest icom or kenwood or yaesu, which you'd have to
> take out a mortgage to own, half the fun as far as I'm concerned is
> working with what you have. and sometimes, that might be a pile of cow
> shit, some duct tape, fencing wire for a feeder and a couple of aluminum
> coke cans for a matching circuit, and an old valve radio that's been
> beaten to death and still manages to put out it's full power. if the above
> works, why change?
> me, I'm all for having a nice long chat with the fellas and working a
> little dx occasionally. I use to like to do that on the chocolate box but,
> there's too many fools there for that to be any fun anymore.
> sorry if I sound whiney but, yeah there you have it, my 2 cents worth.
>
>
> On 18/03/2008 9:47 PM, the old scribe known as Bill W4ZV was able to
> impart this pearl of wisdom:
>>
>>
>> W7is wrote:
>>> If your interested in seeing the latest offering of a contest  grade
>>> transceiver,  take a look at this link. Reading their  brochure is a
>>> real hoot!!     During the next 10 days it will be making its official
>>> debut.
>>
>> Not news.  IC-7700 was announced about the same time (i.e. Dayton last
>> year)
>> as the K3.  You too can spend twice as much as a K3, with no Sub RX and
>> get
>> worse performance.  I'm sure the contest gang will gobble these up...NOT.
>> You could buy 2 fully K3s outfitted for SO2R for less than one
>> IC-7700...but
>> it sure is pretty!  ;-)
>>
>> 73,  Bill
>>
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