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Re: New K3/K3S Beta Firmware, rev. 5.26: Support for K3S and upgraded modules

>> > K3 beta firmware rev. 5.26 is now available on our K3 software page.<<<

Wayne clearly states " BETA"
{ I load those only if they provide some new benefit }

Then WHY the Fuss?
If you had a ICOM, and you send it in for repair, upon return, the Firmware was updated.Would you query the content of the update? And! What are the benefits to you?

What is the saying about an Ant hill and a Mountain?

((((73)))) Milverton / W9MMS.

From: Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]>
To: Matt Murphy <[hidden email]>
Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New K3/K3S Beta Firmware, rev. 5.26: Support for K3S and upgraded modules

I agree with keeping firmware up to date, Matt.
But that never requires loading beta versions; I
load those only if they provide some new benefit I
want early or want to (and have time to) test as a
beta tester

Phil W7OX

On 5/20/15 8:51 AM, Matt Murphy wrote:

> It seems like the firmware updates might now be
> better suited to a table/matrix than a simple
> list, considering all the permutations of add-on
> boards that may exist in a K3 or K3S.
>
> Maybe dividing the update into the following two
> sections would add clarity:
>
> - K3S Only
> - K3 or K3 with upgraded boards
>
> Even if you skip one update because it doesn't
> apply to your hardware, chances are you will
> benefit from a future update which will include
> the firmware changes you decided to skip. I
> have found that keeping firmware up to date is a
> good practice because it minimizes the changes
> that you are making with each subsequent update
> and makes any issues easier to isolate.
>
> 73,
> Matt NQ6N
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Phil Wheeler
> <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>

> wrote:
>
> I really am not looking for opinions or
> comments on the social benefits of beta
> testing. As a former manager of space system
> software programs and a current beta tester
> of computer operating systems, I do
> understand the purpose of beta testing.
>
> My question was to Wayne and Elecraft,
> specifically:
>
> "Is there any reason a K3 needs this version
> for improved performance, functionality, etc.?"
>
> I didn't purchase my Elecraft products to
> contribute to the greater good. Nor do I
> plan to spend time loading software from
> which I will see a change only if there was
> a problem in that particular beta version
> (which has happened).
>
> Phil W7OX
>

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Re: New K3/K3S Beta Firmware, rev. 5.26: Support for K3S and upgraded modules

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The new firmware would be required for a K3 IF you add any of the newly
upgraded K3S pieces to your K3, such as the new KIO3, KXV3B or KAT3A.

73, Ross N4RP

On 5/20/2015 10:32 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote:

> Wayne,
>
> It's unclear what impact, if any, this firmware will have on the K3.
> All the specifics listed below appear to be K3S related.
>
> I usually load beta versions *only* if the test/change relates to some
> feature I really want. If no changes for K3, no reason for me to load it.
>
> Is there any reason a K3 needs this version for improved performance,
> functionality, etc.?
>
> 73, Phil W7OX
>
> On 5/19/15 5:29 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> K3 beta firmware rev. 5.26 is now available on our K3 software page.
>> This is the first combined K3/K3S firmware release. It can be loaded
>> into either transceiver using K3 Utility.
>>
>> Some firmware features and changes apply only to the K3S, or to the
>> various updated internal modules, as described in the release notes
>> below. (Further details will be provided in the K3S owner's manual
>> and other documents as they are made available.) We appreciate any
>> firmware testing you might do on a K3, with or without any upgraded
>> modules.
>>
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
>> * * *
>>
>> K3/K3S MCU rev. 5.26
>>
>> * USB COMPUTER PORT FOR COMBINED CONTROL and DIGITAL AUDIO (K3S,
>> KIO3B): If a KIO3B module is installed (standard with the K3S), the
>> CONFIG:RS232 menu entry will have a "USB" setting. If this setting is
>> used, then a single USB cable can be used between the K3S and a
>> computer to provide remote control, digitized line-level audio
>> in/out, and PTT/KEY (via equivalents to the "RTS" and "DTR" signals).
>> All of these signals are usually recognized by computer applications
>> that also support RS232. This eliminates the need for a sound card
>> and associated analog line in/out cables, as well as any external
>> converter units. Refer to the K3S owner's manual, pgs. 18-20, for
>> details.
>>
>> * NEW P3 PANADAPTER CABLE SUPPORT (K3S, KIO3B): If a KIO3B module is
>> installed, then the P3 Panadapter must be connected to the K3S at its
>> RS232/P3 connector (RJ45). Two different special cables are available
>> for this purpose, depending on whether a computer will be connected
>> via USB or RS232 to the K3S and P3. Refer to the K3S owner's manual
>> for details (pg. 18 and 19).
>>
>> * LINE IN/OUT AUDIO USE WITH USB PORT (K3S, KIO3B): If a plug is
>> inserted into the LINE IN jack on the K3S, this audio signal will
>> override the digitized audio line-in data that is present in the USB
>> cable. LINE OUT on the K3S, however, is always available even if the
>> USB cable is being used for line-out.
>>
>> * PREAMP 2 and CONFIG:PREAMP2 MENU ENTRY (KXV3B): This menu entry is
>> only applicable if a KXV3B module is installed (supplied with the
>> K3S). It also only applies if the current band is 12, 10, or 6
>> meters. If PREAMP2 is set to ON, then the PRE switch rotates through
>> settings of OFF, PRE 1, and PRE 2 on the applicable band. PRE 2
>> turns on the low-noise preamp on the KXV3B module (+20 dB, with a
>> typical NF of -144 dBm on 12/10/6 meters). When PRE 2 is selected,
>> the PRE icon will flash slowly. Note: Do not use an external
>> preamplifier (such as an Elecraft PR6 or PR6-10) when using the
>> built-in low-noise preamp (PRE 2). This would result in excessive
>> gain. .
>>
>> * MULTIPLE ATTENUATOR SETTINGS and MAIN:ATTEN MENU ENTRY (K3S RF
>> BOARD): On a K3S, the MAIN:ATTEN menu entry is used to select the
>> per-band attenuation level for the ATTN switch (5/10/15 dB). A
>> shortcut method of accessing this menu entry is to hold the ATTN
>> switch for about 3 seconds. (On a K3, the parameter is fixed at 10 dB.)
>>
>> * LOW-LOSS ATU BYPASS SETTING (KAT3A): The upgraded internal ATU
>> option, the KAT3A, includes a very low-loss bypass path via an
>> additional relay. The bypass relay is engaged when the ATU switch is
>> used to turn the ATU icon OFF. This setting can be used with closely
>> matched antennas. ("Bypass" mode on the earlier model KAT3 ATU uses a
>> minimum-L/minimum-C network setting rather than a relay, result in a
>> small dissipation loss that varies with frequency.)
>>
>> * 100-500 KHZ SENSITIVITY IMPROVEMENT (KBPF3A): The KBPF3A is an
>> upgrade from the KBPF3. The lowest-frequency filter in the KBPF3A has
>> a cutoff at 100 kHz rather than 500 kHz. This improves typical
>> sensitivity at 137 kHz (2200 meters) to about -120 dBm, and at 472
>> kHz (600 meters), about -130 dBm.
>>
>> * UPDATED "PA" (PREAMP) REMOTE-CONTROL COMMAND (KXV3B): The PA
>> command now supports a SET/RESPONSE value of "PA2" whenever preamp 2
>> is available. This applies on 12/10/6 meters with a KXV3B module
>> installed and preamp 2 enabled (see CONFIG:PREAMP2 description, above).
>
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Re: New K3/K3S Beta Firmware, rev. 5.26: Support for K3S and upgraded modules

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Hi Milverton,

Well I'm old and my grandmother who was always good at repeating those
witticisms used to say, "making mountains out of mole hills". Her way
of saying not important.

73,
Bob
K2TK ex KN2TKR (1956 & K2TKR

On 5/20/2015 1:05 PM, Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft wrote:

>>>> K3 beta firmware rev. 5.26 is now available on our K3 software page.<<<
>
> Wayne clearly states " BETA"
> { I load those only if they provide some new benefit }
>
> Then WHY the Fuss?
> If you had a ICOM, and you send it in for repair, upon return, the Firmware was updated.Would you query the content of the update? And! What are the benefits to you?
>
> What is the saying about an Ant hill and a Mountain?
>
> ((((73)))) Milverton / W9MMS.

bs usb

Re: New K3/K3S Beta Firmware, rev. 5.26: Support for K3S and upgraded modules

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Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft wrote:
> What is the saying about an Ant hill and a Mountain? ((((73))))
> Milverton /

Don't you mean Mole Hill?
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Re: New K3/K3S Beta Firmware, rev. 5.26: Support for K3S and upgraded modules

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That's my interpretation, Ross. Just asking Wayne
for confirmation.

Hmmm .. but I wonder if anyone has been able to
add such items to their K3 as yet? They were
announced a week ago, and my impression is that
they may be in short supply for K3 usage for a while.

Phil W7OX

On 5/20/15 10:29 AM, Ross Primrose wrote:

> The new firmware would be required for a K3 IF
> you add any of the newly upgraded K3S pieces to
> your K3, such as the new KIO3, KXV3B or KAT3A.
>
> 73, Ross N4RP
>
> On 5/20/2015 10:32 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
>> Wayne,
>>
>> It's unclear what impact, if any, this firmware
>> will have on the K3. All the specifics listed
>> below appear to be K3S related.
>>
>> I usually load beta versions *only* if the
>> test/change relates to some feature I really
>> want. If no changes for K3, no reason for me to
>> load it.
>>
>> Is there any reason a K3 needs this version for
>> improved performance, functionality, etc.?
>>
>> 73, Phil W7OX
>>
>> On 5/19/15 5:29 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> K3 beta firmware rev. 5.26 is now available on
>>> our K3 software page. This is the first
>>> combined K3/K3S firmware release. It can be
>>> loaded into either transceiver using K3 Utility.
>>>
>>> Some firmware features and changes apply only
>>> to the K3S, or to the various updated internal
>>> modules, as described in the release notes
>>> below. (Further details will be provided in
>>> the K3S owner's manual and other documents as
>>> they are made available.) We appreciate any
>>> firmware testing you might do on a K3, with or
>>> without any upgraded modules.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>>
>>> * * *
>>>
>>> K3/K3S MCU rev. 5.26
>>>
>>> * USB COMPUTER PORT FOR COMBINED CONTROL and
>>> DIGITAL AUDIO (K3S, KIO3B): If a KIO3B module
>>> is installed (standard with the K3S), the
>>> CONFIG:RS232 menu entry will have a "USB"
>>> setting. If this setting is used, then a
>>> single USB cable can be used between the K3S
>>> and a computer to provide remote control,
>>> digitized line-level audio in/out, and PTT/KEY
>>> (via equivalents to the "RTS" and "DTR"
>>> signals). All of these signals are usually
>>> recognized by computer applications that also
>>> support RS232. This eliminates the need for a
>>> sound card and associated analog line in/out
>>> cables, as well as any external converter
>>> units. Refer to the K3S owner's manual, pgs.
>>> 18-20, for details.
>>>
>>> * NEW P3 PANADAPTER CABLE SUPPORT (K3S,
>>> KIO3B): If a KIO3B module is installed, then
>>> the P3 Panadapter must be connected to the K3S
>>> at its RS232/P3 connector (RJ45). Two
>>> different special cables are available for
>>> this purpose, depending on whether a computer
>>> will be connected via USB or RS232 to the K3S
>>> and P3. Refer to the K3S owner's manual for
>>> details (pg. 18 and 19).
>>>
>>> * LINE IN/OUT AUDIO USE WITH USB PORT (K3S,
>>> KIO3B): If a plug is inserted into the LINE IN
>>> jack on the K3S, this audio signal will
>>> override the digitized audio line-in data that
>>> is present in the USB cable. LINE OUT on the
>>> K3S, however, is always available even if the
>>> USB cable is being used for line-out.
>>>
>>> * PREAMP 2 and CONFIG:PREAMP2 MENU ENTRY
>>> (KXV3B): This menu entry is only applicable if
>>> a KXV3B module is installed (supplied with the
>>> K3S). It also only applies if the current band
>>> is 12, 10, or 6 meters. If PREAMP2 is set to
>>> ON, then the PRE switch rotates through
>>> settings of OFF, PRE 1, and PRE 2 on the
>>> applicable band. PRE 2 turns on the low-noise
>>> preamp on the KXV3B module (+20 dB, with a
>>> typical NF of -144 dBm on 12/10/6 meters).
>>> When PRE 2 is selected, the PRE icon will
>>> flash slowly. Note: Do not use an external
>>> preamplifier (such as an Elecraft PR6 or
>>> PR6-10) when using the built-in low-noise
>>> preamp (PRE 2). This would result in excessive
>>> gain. .
>>>
>>> * MULTIPLE ATTENUATOR SETTINGS and MAIN:ATTEN
>>> MENU ENTRY (K3S RF BOARD): On a K3S, the
>>> MAIN:ATTEN menu entry is used to select the
>>> per-band attenuation level for the ATTN switch
>>> (5/10/15 dB). A shortcut method of accessing
>>> this menu entry is to hold the ATTN switch for
>>> about 3 seconds. (On a K3, the parameter is
>>> fixed at 10 dB.)
>>>
>>> * LOW-LOSS ATU BYPASS SETTING (KAT3A): The
>>> upgraded internal ATU option, the KAT3A,
>>> includes a very low-loss bypass path via an
>>> additional relay. The bypass relay is engaged
>>> when the ATU switch is used to turn the ATU
>>> icon OFF. This setting can be used with
>>> closely matched antennas. ("Bypass" mode on
>>> the earlier model KAT3 ATU uses a
>>> minimum-L/minimum-C network setting rather
>>> than a relay, result in a small dissipation
>>> loss that varies with frequency.)
>>>
>>> * 100-500 KHZ SENSITIVITY IMPROVEMENT
>>> (KBPF3A): The KBPF3A is an upgrade from the
>>> KBPF3. The lowest-frequency filter in the
>>> KBPF3A has a cutoff at 100 kHz rather than 500
>>> kHz. This improves typical sensitivity at 137
>>> kHz (2200 meters) to about -120 dBm, and at
>>> 472 kHz (600 meters), about -130 dBm.
>>>
>>> * UPDATED "PA" (PREAMP) REMOTE-CONTROL COMMAND
>>> (KXV3B): The PA command now supports a
>>> SET/RESPONSE value of "PA2" whenever preamp 2
>>> is available. This applies on 12/10/6 meters
>>> with a KXV3B module installed and preamp 2
>>> enabled (see CONFIG:PREAMP2 description, above).
>>
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Ross Primrose

Re: New K3/K3S Beta Firmware, rev. 5.26: Support for K3S and upgraded modules

The K3S FAQ indicates that the KXV3B, KAT3A & KBPF3A are available now.
I can't confirm or deny the accuracy of that. But, I believe you'd need
the new beta firmware for any of those.

73, Ross N4RP

On 5/20/2015 2:00 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:

> That's my interpretation, Ross. Just asking Wayne for confirmation.
>
> Hmmm .. but I wonder if anyone has been able to add such items to
> their K3 as yet? They were announced a week ago, and my impression is
> that they may be in short supply for K3 usage for a while.
>
> Phil W7OX
>
> On 5/20/15 10:29 AM, Ross Primrose wrote:
>> The new firmware would be required for a K3 IF you add any of the
>> newly upgraded K3S pieces to your K3, such as the new KIO3, KXV3B or
>> KAT3A.
>>
>> 73, Ross N4RP
>>
>> On 5/20/2015 10:32 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
>>> Wayne,
>>>
>>> It's unclear what impact, if any, this firmware will have on the K3.
>>> All the specifics listed below appear to be K3S related.
>>>
>>> I usually load beta versions *only* if the test/change relates to
>>> some feature I really want. If no changes for K3, no reason for me
>>> to load it.
>>>
>>> Is there any reason a K3 needs this version for improved
>>> performance, functionality, etc.?
>>>
>>> 73, Phil W7OX
>>>
>>> On 5/19/15 5:29 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> K3 beta firmware rev. 5.26 is now available on our K3 software
>>>> page. This is the first combined K3/K3S firmware release. It can be
>>>> loaded into either transceiver using K3 Utility.
>>>>
>>>> Some firmware features and changes apply only to the K3S, or to the
>>>> various updated internal modules, as described in the release notes
>>>> below. (Further details will be provided in the K3S owner's manual
>>>> and other documents as they are made available.) We appreciate any
>>>> firmware testing you might do on a K3, with or without any upgraded
>>>> modules.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Wayne
>>>> N6KR
>>>>
>>>> * * *
>>>>
>>>> K3/K3S MCU rev. 5.26
>>>>
>>>> * USB COMPUTER PORT FOR COMBINED CONTROL and DIGITAL AUDIO (K3S,
>>>> KIO3B): If a KIO3B module is installed (standard with the K3S), the
>>>> CONFIG:RS232 menu entry will have a "USB" setting. If this setting
>>>> is used, then a single USB cable can be used between the K3S and a
>>>> computer to provide remote control, digitized line-level audio
>>>> in/out, and PTT/KEY (via equivalents to the "RTS" and "DTR"
>>>> signals). All of these signals are usually recognized by computer
>>>> applications that also support RS232. This eliminates the need for
>>>> a sound card and associated analog line in/out cables, as well as
>>>> any external converter units. Refer to the K3S owner's manual, pgs.
>>>> 18-20, for details.
>>>>
>>>> * NEW P3 PANADAPTER CABLE SUPPORT (K3S, KIO3B): If a KIO3B module
>>>> is installed, then the P3 Panadapter must be connected to the K3S
>>>> at its RS232/P3 connector (RJ45). Two different special cables are
>>>> available for this purpose, depending on whether a computer will be
>>>> connected via USB or RS232 to the K3S and P3. Refer to the K3S
>>>> owner's manual for details (pg. 18 and 19).
>>>>
>>>> * LINE IN/OUT AUDIO USE WITH USB PORT (K3S, KIO3B): If a plug is
>>>> inserted into the LINE IN jack on the K3S, this audio signal will
>>>> override the digitized audio line-in data that is present in the
>>>> USB cable. LINE OUT on the K3S, however, is always available even
>>>> if the USB cable is being used for line-out.
>>>>
>>>> * PREAMP 2 and CONFIG:PREAMP2 MENU ENTRY (KXV3B): This menu entry
>>>> is only applicable if a KXV3B module is installed (supplied with
>>>> the K3S). It also only applies if the current band is 12, 10, or 6
>>>> meters. If PREAMP2 is set to ON, then the PRE switch rotates
>>>> through settings of OFF, PRE 1, and PRE 2 on the applicable band.
>>>> PRE 2 turns on the low-noise preamp on the KXV3B module (+20 dB,
>>>> with a typical NF of -144 dBm on 12/10/6 meters). When PRE 2 is
>>>> selected, the PRE icon will flash slowly. Note: Do not use an
>>>> external preamplifier (such as an Elecraft PR6 or PR6-10) when
>>>> using the built-in low-noise preamp (PRE 2). This would result in
>>>> excessive gain. .
>>>>
>>>> * MULTIPLE ATTENUATOR SETTINGS and MAIN:ATTEN MENU ENTRY (K3S RF
>>>> BOARD): On a K3S, the MAIN:ATTEN menu entry is used to select the
>>>> per-band attenuation level for the ATTN switch (5/10/15 dB). A
>>>> shortcut method of accessing this menu entry is to hold the ATTN
>>>> switch for about 3 seconds. (On a K3, the parameter is fixed at 10
>>>> dB.)
>>>>
>>>> * LOW-LOSS ATU BYPASS SETTING (KAT3A): The upgraded internal ATU
>>>> option, the KAT3A, includes a very low-loss bypass path via an
>>>> additional relay. The bypass relay is engaged when the ATU switch
>>>> is used to turn the ATU icon OFF. This setting can be used with
>>>> closely matched antennas. ("Bypass" mode on the earlier model KAT3
>>>> ATU uses a minimum-L/minimum-C network setting rather than a relay,
>>>> result in a small dissipation loss that varies with frequency.)
>>>>
>>>> * 100-500 KHZ SENSITIVITY IMPROVEMENT (KBPF3A): The KBPF3A is an
>>>> upgrade from the KBPF3. The lowest-frequency filter in the KBPF3A
>>>> has a cutoff at 100 kHz rather than 500 kHz. This improves typical
>>>> sensitivity at 137 kHz (2200 meters) to about -120 dBm, and at 472
>>>> kHz (600 meters), about -130 dBm.
>>>>
>>>> * UPDATED "PA" (PREAMP) REMOTE-CONTROL COMMAND (KXV3B): The PA
>>>> command now supports a SET/RESPONSE value of "PA2" whenever preamp
>>>> 2 is available. This applies on 12/10/6 meters with a KXV3B module
>>>> installed and preamp 2 enabled (see CONFIG:PREAMP2 description,
>>>> above).
>>>
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Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: New K3/K3S Beta Firmware, rev. 5.26: Support for K3S and upgraded modules

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On 2015-05-20 1:29 PM, Ross Primrose wrote:
> The new firmware would be required for a K3 IF you add any of the newly
> upgraded K3S pieces to your K3, such as the new KIO3, KXV3B or KAT3A.

It would not be needed, however, for the new KBPF3A <G>.

73,

... Joe, W4TV
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I can't see why it would be, but the KBPF3A is mentioned in the release
notes ???

73, Ross N4RP

On 5/20/2015 2:27 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

>
> It would not be needed, however, for the new KBPF3A <G>.
>
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
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On Wed, 2015-05-20 at 08:04 -0700, Phil Wheeler wrote:

> I really am not looking for opinions or comments
> on the social benefits of beta testing. As a
> former manager of space system software programs
> and a current beta tester of computer operating
> systems, I do understand the purpose of beta testing.
>
> My question was to Wayne and Elecraft, specifically:
>
> "Is there any reason a K3 needs this version for
> improved performance, functionality, etc.?"
>
> I didn't purchase my Elecraft products to
> contribute to the greater good. Nor do I plan to
> spend time loading software from which I will see
> a change only if there was a problem in that
> particular beta version (which has happened).
>
> Phil W7OX
>
> On 5/20/15 7:49 AM, Bayard Coolidge, N1HO wrote:
> > Professional software QC engineers refer to
> >
> > this as "regression testing", to ensure that
> >
> > the software involved continues to operate as
> >
> > it did in the previous release as tested/released
> >
> > on the available hardware at that time.
> >
> >
> > There are no documented changes for the K3,
> > therefore
> >
> > you should not see any difference in the
> > behavior of a
> >
> > K3 when testing this beta firmware on it.
> >
> >
> > If you do not wish to test a beta deployment of an
> >
> > upcoming firmware release, then don't install
> > and test it.
> >
> >
> > If you'd like to help Elecraft verify that the
> > changes made
> >
> > to the firmware behave as expected, then I'm
> > sure they'd
> >
> > appreciate it if you'd install it and try it out.
> >
> >
> > I just wish Yahoo! would do the same thing for
> > its mail software!
> >
> > (I continually see problems in the formatting of
> > my posts
> >
> > the list from my Yahoo! web account; please bear
> > with me/it)
> >
> >
> > 73 de N1HO
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > *From:* Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]>
> > Is there any reason a K3 needs this version for
> > improved performance, functionality, etc.?
> >
> >
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Re: New K3/K3S Beta Firmware, rev. 5.26: Support for K3S and upgraded modules

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I admit I would run the beta software more often if it were
easier. From my point of view, having a "run beta software" box
in the utilities which would automatically search the Elecraft
site for beta versions which are newer than the latest
production version, down load them, and install them. Icing on
the cake would be an easy to back out to the latest production
version in case of problems.

73 Bill AE6JV

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>K3Utility will tell you if the production firmware has been
>updated, it is an easy matter to download and install those.
>Beta releases are a different matter. Those will be announced
>on the Elecraft reflector (and in the beta section of the
>Elecraft website), and if you wish to download a beta version,
>follow the instructions for downloading a beta release on the
>Elecraft website.
>Occasionally, Wayne will announce an early beta release (or
>per-release if you prefer) asking those interested in trying it
>to send him an email.

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Re: New K3/K3S Beta Firmware, rev. 5.26: Support for K3S and upgraded modules

Hi Bill,
I think part of the circuitous route downloading and running the Beta
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On Wed, 2015-05-20 at 12:53 -0700, Bill Frantz wrote:

> I admit I would run the beta software more often if it were
> easier. From my point of view, having a "run beta software" box
> in the utilities which would automatically search the Elecraft
> site for beta versions which are newer than the latest
> production version, down load them, and install them. Icing on
> the cake would be an easy to back out to the latest production
> version in case of problems.
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV
>
> On 5/20/15 at 9:21 AM, [hidden email] (Don Wilhelm) wrote:
>
> >K3Utility will tell you if the production firmware has been
> >updated, it is an easy matter to download and install those.
> >Beta releases are a different matter. Those will be announced
> >on the Elecraft reflector (and in the beta section of the
> >Elecraft website), and if you wish to download a beta version,
> >follow the instructions for downloading a beta release on the
> >Elecraft website.
> >Occasionally, Wayne will announce an early beta release (or
> >per-release if you prefer) asking those interested in trying it
> >to send him an email.
>
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Re: New K3/K3S Beta Firmware, rev. 5.26: Support for K3S and upgraded modules

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The present firmware release has very little impact on the K3, but it is still important to test each release to make sure we didn't break anything. We've had some positive reports in that regard, so no need for everyone to load it.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On May 20, 2015, at 11:00 AM, Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]> wrote:

> That's my interpretation, Ross. Just asking Wayne for confirmation.
>
> Hmmm .. but I wonder if anyone has been able to add such items to their K3 as yet? They were announced a week ago, and my impression is that they may be in short supply for K3 usage for a while.
>
> Phil W7OX
>
> On 5/20/15 10:29 AM, Ross Primrose wrote:
>> The new firmware would be required for a K3 IF you add any of the newly upgraded K3S pieces to your K3, such as the new KIO3, KXV3B or KAT3A.
>>
>> 73, Ross N4RP
>>
>> On 5/20/2015 10:32 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
>>> Wayne,
>>>
>>> It's unclear what impact, if any, this firmware will have on the K3. All the specifics listed below appear to be K3S related.
>>>
>>> I usually load beta versions *only* if the test/change relates to some feature I really want. If no changes for K3, no reason for me to load it.
>>>
>>> Is there any reason a K3 needs this version for improved performance, functionality, etc.?
>>>
>>> 73, Phil W7OX
>>>
>>> On 5/19/15 5:29 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> K3 beta firmware rev. 5.26 is now available on our K3 software page. This is the first combined K3/K3S firmware release. It can be loaded into either transceiver using K3 Utility.
>>>>
>>>> Some firmware features and changes apply only to the K3S, or to the various updated internal modules, as described in the release notes below. (Further details will be provided in the K3S owner's manual and other documents as they are made available.) We appreciate any firmware testing you might do on a K3, with or without any upgraded modules.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Wayne
>>>> N6KR
>>>>
>>>> * * *
>>>>
>>>> K3/K3S MCU rev. 5.26
>>>>
>>>> * USB COMPUTER PORT FOR COMBINED CONTROL and DIGITAL AUDIO (K3S, KIO3B): If a KIO3B module is installed (standard with the K3S), the CONFIG:RS232 menu entry will have a "USB" setting. If this setting is used, then a single USB cable can be used between the K3S and a computer to provide remote control, digitized line-level audio in/out, and PTT/KEY (via equivalents to the "RTS" and "DTR" signals). All of these signals are usually recognized by computer applications that also support RS232. This eliminates the need for a sound card and associated analog line in/out cables, as well as any external converter units. Refer to the K3S owner's manual, pgs. 18-20, for details.
>>>>
>>>> * NEW P3 PANADAPTER CABLE SUPPORT (K3S, KIO3B): If a KIO3B module is installed, then the P3 Panadapter must be connected to the K3S at its RS232/P3 connector (RJ45). Two different special cables are available for this purpose, depending on whether a computer will be connected via USB or RS232 to the K3S and P3. Refer to the K3S owner's manual for details (pg. 18 and 19).
>>>>
>>>> * LINE IN/OUT AUDIO USE WITH USB PORT (K3S, KIO3B): If a plug is inserted into the LINE IN jack on the K3S, this audio signal will override the digitized audio line-in data that is present in the USB cable. LINE OUT on the K3S, however, is always available even if the USB cable is being used for line-out.
>>>>
>>>> * PREAMP 2 and CONFIG:PREAMP2 MENU ENTRY (KXV3B): This menu entry is only applicable if a KXV3B module is installed (supplied with the K3S). It also only applies if the current band is 12, 10, or 6 meters. If PREAMP2 is set to ON, then the PRE switch rotates through settings of OFF, PRE 1, and PRE 2 on the applicable band. PRE 2 turns on the low-noise preamp on the KXV3B module (+20 dB, with a typical NF of -144 dBm on 12/10/6 meters). When PRE 2 is selected, the PRE icon will flash slowly. Note: Do not use an external preamplifier (such as an Elecraft PR6 or PR6-10) when using the built-in low-noise preamp (PRE 2). This would result in excessive gain. .
>>>>
>>>> * MULTIPLE ATTENUATOR SETTINGS and MAIN:ATTEN MENU ENTRY (K3S RF BOARD): On a K3S, the MAIN:ATTEN menu entry is used to select the per-band attenuation level for the ATTN switch (5/10/15 dB). A shortcut method of accessing this menu entry is to hold the ATTN switch for about 3 seconds. (On a K3, the parameter is fixed at 10 dB.)
>>>>
>>>> * LOW-LOSS ATU BYPASS SETTING (KAT3A): The upgraded internal ATU option, the KAT3A, includes a very low-loss bypass path via an additional relay. The bypass relay is engaged when the ATU switch is used to turn the ATU icon OFF. This setting can be used with closely matched antennas. ("Bypass" mode on the earlier model KAT3 ATU uses a minimum-L/minimum-C network setting rather than a relay, result in a small dissipation loss that varies with frequency.)
>>>>
>>>> * 100-500 KHZ SENSITIVITY IMPROVEMENT (KBPF3A): The KBPF3A is an upgrade from the KBPF3. The lowest-frequency filter in the KBPF3A has a cutoff at 100 kHz rather than 500 kHz. This improves typical sensitivity at 137 kHz (2200 meters) to about -120 dBm, and at 472 kHz (600 meters), about -130 dBm.
>>>>
>>>> * UPDATED "PA" (PREAMP) REMOTE-CONTROL COMMAND (KXV3B): The PA command now supports a SET/RESPONSE value of "PA2" whenever preamp 2 is available. This applies on 12/10/6 meters with a KXV3B module installed and preamp 2 enabled (see CONFIG:PREAMP2 description, above).
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Re: New K3/K3S Beta Firmware, rev. 5.26: Support for K3S and upgraded modules

In reply to this post by NK7Z

Bill,
I believe it was said long ago that it was made different (and not
automated) to make sure you understood that it was not the Production
version.

After the 2nd Beta download for my K3, I set-up a "Beta" folder where I
download the firmware and then un-compress.
My Utility is pointed to the last folder I installed; so it is fairly easy
to redirect it and install Beta Firmware.
Since Production firmware comes from Beta that is promoted; I don't remember
loading a Production version at least not in many years!

Very occasionally I do skip a Beta version because of time constraints or
"Senior Moments".
When an update is skipped it is not lost. It will be in all future releases
unless it is modified later on!

73 George AI4VZ

-----Original Message-----
From: David Cole
Hi Bill,
I think part of the circuitous route downloading and running the Beta
Software in intentional. It keeps it from being accidentally loaded.
--
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On Wed, 2015-05-20 at 12:53 -0700, Bill Frantz wrote:

Chester Alderman

Re: New K3/K3S Beta Firmware, rev. 5.26: Support for K3S and upgraded modules

In reply to this post by wayne burdick

Thank you for the information Wayne!

NOW, please close this subject as it has gotten totally and unnecessarily
out of hand...like so many things do on this reflector. Folks, I asked Wayne
for a simple clarification and there was absolutely no need for the 'long
winded' discussion that followed. This is getting to be such a common
occurrence that this reflector is becoming practically useless where it
really should be a great place to get technical information about the
products we purchase from Elecraft. I do hope this deluge of non-useful post
will soon be reduced!

73,
Tom - W4BQF

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Wayne
Burdick
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 4:13 PM
To: Phil Wheeler
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New K3/K3S Beta Firmware, rev. 5.26: Support for K3S
and upgraded modules

The present firmware release has very little impact on the K3, but it is
still important to test each release to make sure we didn't break anything.
We've had some positive reports in that regard, so no need for everyone to
load it.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On May 20, 2015, at 11:00 AM, Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]> wrote:

> That's my interpretation, Ross. Just asking Wayne for confirmation.
>
> Hmmm .. but I wonder if anyone has been able to add such items to their K3
as yet? They were announced a week ago, and my impression is that they may
be in short supply for K3 usage for a while.
>
> Phil W7OX
>
> On 5/20/15 10:29 AM, Ross Primrose wrote:
>> The new firmware would be required for a K3 IF you add any of the newly
upgraded K3S pieces to your K3, such as the new KIO3, KXV3B or KAT3A.
>>
>> 73, Ross N4RP
>>
>> On 5/20/2015 10:32 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
>>> Wayne,
>>>
>>> It's unclear what impact, if any, this firmware will have on the K3. All
the specifics listed below appear to be K3S related.
>>>
>>> I usually load beta versions *only* if the test/change relates to some
feature I really want. If no changes for K3, no reason for me to load it.
>>>
>>> Is there any reason a K3 needs this version for improved performance,
functionality, etc.?
>>>
>>> 73, Phil W7OX
>>>
>>> On 5/19/15 5:29 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> K3 beta firmware rev. 5.26 is now available on our K3 software page.
This is the first combined K3/K3S firmware release. It can be loaded into
either transceiver using K3 Utility.
>>>>
>>>> Some firmware features and changes apply only to the K3S, or to the
various updated internal modules, as described in the release notes below.
(Further details will be provided in the K3S owner's manual and other
documents as they are made available.) We appreciate any firmware testing
you might do on a K3, with or without any upgraded modules.

>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Wayne
>>>> N6KR
>>>>
>>>> * * *
>>>>
>>>> K3/K3S MCU rev. 5.26
>>>>
>>>> * USB COMPUTER PORT FOR COMBINED CONTROL and DIGITAL AUDIO (K3S,

KIO3B): If a KIO3B module is installed (standard with the K3S), the
CONFIG:RS232 menu entry will have a "USB" setting. If this setting is used,
then a single USB cable can be used between the K3S and a computer to
provide remote control, digitized line-level audio in/out, and PTT/KEY (via
equivalents to the "RTS" and "DTR" signals). All of these signals are
usually recognized by computer applications that also support RS232. This
eliminates the need for a sound card and associated analog line in/out
cables, as well as any external converter units. Refer to the K3S owner's
manual, pgs. 18-20, for details.
>>>>
>>>> * NEW P3 PANADAPTER CABLE SUPPORT (K3S, KIO3B): If a KIO3B module is
installed, then the P3 Panadapter must be connected to the K3S at its
RS232/P3 connector (RJ45). Two different special cables are available for
this purpose, depending on whether a computer will be connected via USB or
RS232 to the K3S and P3. Refer to the K3S owner's manual for details (pg. 18
and 19).
>>>>
>>>> * LINE IN/OUT AUDIO USE WITH USB PORT (K3S, KIO3B): If a plug is
inserted into the LINE IN jack on the K3S, this audio signal will override
the digitized audio line-in data that is present in the USB cable. LINE OUT
on the K3S, however, is always available even if the USB cable is being used
for line-out.
>>>>
>>>> * PREAMP 2 and CONFIG:PREAMP2 MENU ENTRY (KXV3B): This menu entry is
only applicable if a KXV3B module is installed (supplied with the K3S). It
also only applies if the current band is 12, 10, or 6 meters. If PREAMP2 is
set to ON, then the PRE switch rotates through settings of OFF, PRE 1, and
PRE 2 on the applicable band. PRE 2 turns on the low-noise preamp on the
KXV3B module (+20 dB, with a typical NF of -144 dBm on 12/10/6 meters). When
PRE 2 is selected, the PRE icon will flash slowly. Note: Do not use an
external preamplifier (such as an Elecraft PR6 or PR6-10) when using the
built-in low-noise preamp (PRE 2). This would result in excessive gain. .

>>>>
>>>> * MULTIPLE ATTENUATOR SETTINGS and MAIN:ATTEN MENU ENTRY (K3S RF
>>>> BOARD): On a K3S, the MAIN:ATTEN menu entry is used to select the
>>>> per-band attenuation level for the ATTN switch (5/10/15 dB). A
>>>> shortcut method of accessing this menu entry is to hold the ATTN
>>>> switch for about 3 seconds. (On a K3, the parameter is fixed at 10
>>>> dB.)
>>>>
>>>> * LOW-LOSS ATU BYPASS SETTING (KAT3A): The upgraded internal ATU
>>>> option, the KAT3A, includes a very low-loss bypass path via an
>>>> additional relay. The bypass relay is engaged when the ATU switch
>>>> is used to turn the ATU icon OFF. This setting can be used with
>>>> closely matched antennas. ("Bypass" mode on the earlier model KAT3
>>>> ATU uses a minimum-L/minimum-C network setting rather than a relay,
>>>> result in a small dissipation loss that varies with frequency.)
>>>>
>>>> * 100-500 KHZ SENSITIVITY IMPROVEMENT (KBPF3A): The KBPF3A is an

upgrade from the KBPF3. The lowest-frequency filter in the KBPF3A has a
cutoff at 100 kHz rather than 500 kHz. This improves typical sensitivity at
137 kHz (2200 meters) to about -120 dBm, and at 472 kHz (600 meters), about
-130 dBm.
>>>>
>>>> * UPDATED "PA" (PREAMP) REMOTE-CONTROL COMMAND (KXV3B): The PA command
now supports a SET/RESPONSE value of "PA2" whenever preamp 2 is available.
This applies on 12/10/6 meters with a KXV3B module installed and preamp 2
enabled (see CONFIG:PREAMP2 description, above).

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Re: New K3/K3S Beta Firmware, rev. 5.26: Support for K3S and upgraded modules

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Am 20.05.2015 um 02:29 schrieb Wayne Burdick:
> * LINE IN/OUT AUDIO USE WITH USB PORT (K3S, KIO3B): If a plug is inserted into the LINE IN jack on the K3S, this audio signal will override the digitized audio line-in data that is present in the USB cable. LINE OUT on the K3S, however, is always available even if the USB cable is being used for line-out.

I can already see the "Help! I don't get any audio from my USB
connection!" emails on the reflector. ;-)

Wayne: If you're ever going to redesign the I/O module again (KIO3C
anyone? ;-)) please make that a menu selection and also store different
settings, i.e. line/mic gain for USB audio and line/mic gain for the 3,5
mm connection. That's one of the really neat things I like on a friend's
TS-590. ;-)

73, Olli - DH8BQA

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> Wayne: If you're ever going to redesign the I/O module again (KIO3C
> anyone? ;-)) please make that a menu selection and also store
> different settings, i.e. line/mic gain for USB audio and line/mic
> gain for the 3,5 mm connection. That's one of the really neat things
> I like on a friend's TS-590. ;-)

But that means another switch to select either USB or Line audio along
with another menu selection (RP.H/L, FP.H/L, LINE IN, USB IN). Now you
need a solid state audio switch on the KIO3C and another control line
from the serial/shift register controls. Is there even a spare control
output on the KIO3? Seems to me everything is already "full" including
the direct processor I/O lines.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2015-05-20 5:12 PM, Oliver Dröse wrote:

> Am 20.05.2015 um 02:29 schrieb Wayne Burdick:
>> * LINE IN/OUT AUDIO USE WITH USB PORT (K3S, KIO3B): If a plug is
>> inserted into the LINE IN jack on the K3S, this audio signal will
>> override the digitized audio line-in data that is present in the USB
>> cable. LINE OUT on the K3S, however, is always available even if the
>> USB cable is being used for line-out.
>
> I can already see the "Help! I don't get any audio from my USB
> connection!" emails on the reflector. ;-)
>
> Wayne: If you're ever going to redesign the I/O module again (KIO3C
> anyone? ;-)) please make that a menu selection and also store different
> settings, i.e. line/mic gain for USB audio and line/mic gain for the 3,5
> mm connection. That's one of the really neat things I like on a friend's
> TS-590. ;-)
>
> 73, Olli - DH8BQA
>
>
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I'm afraid I fail to see the "logic" in this too.

On 5/20/2015 2:12 PM, Oliver Dröse wrote:

> Am 20.05.2015 um 02:29 schrieb Wayne Burdick:
>> * LINE IN/OUT AUDIO USE WITH USB PORT (K3S, KIO3B): If a plug is inserted
>> into the LINE IN jack on the K3S, this audio signal will override the
>> digitized audio line-in data that is present in the USB cable. LINE OUT on
>> the K3S, however, is always available even if the USB cable is being used for
>> line-out.
>
> I can already see the "Help! I don't get any audio from my USB connection!"
> emails on the reflector. ;-)
>
> Wayne: If you're ever going to redesign the I/O module again (KIO3C anyone?
> ;-)) please make that a menu selection and also store different settings, i.e.
> line/mic gain for USB audio and line/mic gain for the 3,5 mm connection.
> That's one of the really neat things I like on a friend's TS-590. ;-)
>
> 73, Olli - DH8BQA
>
>
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I've downloaded the new firmware to my K3 and see zero issues at this
point.

73,

Gary
KA1J

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