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Joseph Trombino, Jr
Howdy Gang:

I wonder if anyone has received a new K3S yet??

Would certainly appreciate any comments as to performance, receive audio quality, new preamps, etc, etc.

Many thanks for any info.

                        73, Joe W2KJ
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Re: New K3S

Jim AB3CV
Just finished assembling 10122. Kit, loaded.

Integration into shack starting this evening. Nothing to report.

Jim ab3cv

On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Joe W2KJ <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Howdy Gang:
>
> I wonder if anyone has received a new K3S yet??
>
> Would certainly appreciate any comments as to performance, receive audio
> quality, new preamps, etc, etc.
>
> Many thanks for any info.
>
>                         73, Joe W2KJ
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Re: New K3S

wayne burdick
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Joe W2KJ <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Howdy Gang:
>
> I wonder if anyone has received a new K3S yet??

Hi Joe,

We have shipped a few dozen, but some have not been received yet, and probably half were kits, which take longer to come on-line. Some of those received have already been mentioned on this forum, or on the Yahoo group (search for "K3S" in the archives). But only a small percentage of our customers participate in the forum at any given time.

In addition to forum comments, the first customer to post an eHam review of the K3S created a product category for it:

   http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/12433

There are two reviews so far, both very thoughtful (and long -- proceed with caution :)  

We're of course very happy to see so many positive comments. There are also a few minor negative points, typical of any product. We take these as constructive input toward future improvements. One reviewer with a very sensitive sense of touch (speculation on my part) commented that he could feel the felt pad under the VFO knob. This pad is intended to create drag, and the amount of drag is adjustable. But, haptics being in the fingers of the beholder, I emailed him to discuss hypothetical alternatives.

I'm sure there will be additional postings and reviews soon. Meanwhile, we're working out a few last annoyances in our shipping procedure in hopes of shipping more quickly.

We'll also have a new firmware release for the K3/K3S this week.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: New K3S

EUGENE GABRY
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Hi Joe,
 
I received my K3S last week SN 10057. I cannot give you an A-B comparison against the original K3 as I never had one. One thing I can comment on though A to B, is about the speaker audio between the K3 and K3S as I was exposed to several K3's at field day. The speaker audio is MUCH cleaner with better gain and no distortion. I am running the speaker out to a pair of Polk book end speakers (passive) from a surround sound entertainment system. Very clean audio. The internal speaker also presents a very clean, loud, undistorted quality.
Any other comparisons would be compared against my previous Icom ProIII, which so far is night and day! I have the following roofing filters set up. 6Khz, 2.7Khz, 500hz and 250hz. I am amazed at how tight this receiver is with these roofing filters, and the flexibility of all RX options compared to what I was using. With regard to the preamps, I can only compare to ProIII, and the S/N  with pre amp 1 or 2 in has a much higher signal level to noise floor increase. Very clean.
 
I am still in the learning mode at this time!
 
73 Gene, N9TF
 
K3S - 10057

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Subject: [Elecraft] New K3S

Howdy Gang:

I wonder if anyone has received a new K3S yet??

Would certainly appreciate any comments as to performance, receive audio quality, new preamps, etc, etc.

Many thanks for any info.

                        73, Joe W2KJ
                        I QRP, therefore I am
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Re: New K3S

kevinr@coho.net
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Yesterday we had the first K3S check in for the Elecraft CW Net.
Comparing K2s, K1s, KX1s, K3s, KX3s, and the new K3Ss is fun :)  It is
hard to tell them apart unless the owner tells you which they are running.
     73,
         Kevin.  KD5ONS


On 7/27/2015 2:48 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

> Joe W2KJ <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Howdy Gang:
>>
>> I wonder if anyone has received a new K3S yet??
> Hi Joe,
>
> We have shipped a few dozen, but some have not been received yet, and probably half were kits, which take longer to come on-line. Some of those received have already been mentioned on this forum, or on the Yahoo group (search for "K3S" in the archives). But only a small percentage of our customers participate in the forum at any given time.
>
> In addition to forum comments, the first customer to post an eHam review of the K3S created a product category for it:
>
>     http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/12433
>
> There are two reviews so far, both very thoughtful (and long -- proceed with caution :)
>
> We're of course very happy to see so many positive comments. There are also a few minor negative points, typical of any product. We take these as constructive input toward future improvements. One reviewer with a very sensitive sense of touch (speculation on my part) commented that he could feel the felt pad under the VFO knob. This pad is intended to create drag, and the amount of drag is adjustable. But, haptics being in the fingers of the beholder, I emailed him to discuss hypothetical alternatives.
>
> I'm sure there will be additional postings and reviews soon. Meanwhile, we're working out a few last annoyances in our shipping procedure in hopes of shipping more quickly.
>
> We'll also have a new firmware release for the K3/K3S this week.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
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Re: New K3S

Ian
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Finishing up s/n 10111. Starting on the sub receiver tonight.  A few typos
in the assembly manual - expected as they make the transition from the K3 -
but no show-stoppers.  I'll post some suggested edits soon.
73, Ian N8IK


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Subject: [Elecraft] New K3S

Howdy Gang:

I wonder if anyone has received a new K3S yet??

Would certainly appreciate any comments as to performance, receive audio
quality, new preamps, etc, etc.

Many thanks for any info.

                        73, Joe W2KJ
                        I QRP, therefore I am
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Re: New K3S

Keith Robinson
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Hello All,
I have K3S s/n 10027. I have had it since July 6th and I am VERY happy with
the K3S.
It out performs any other radio I have ever used. I can't wait to get home
from work every day so I can
use the radio.   The best Ham Radio purchase I've ever made!
Keith Robinson
W4KTR

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New K3S

Yesterday we had the first K3S check in for the Elecraft CW Net.
Comparing K2s, K1s, KX1s, K3s, KX3s, and the new K3Ss is fun :)  It is
hard to tell them apart unless the owner tells you which they are running.
     73,
         Kevin.  KD5ONS


On 7/27/2015 2:48 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

> Joe W2KJ <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Howdy Gang:
>>
>> I wonder if anyone has received a new K3S yet??
> Hi Joe,
>
> We have shipped a few dozen, but some have not been received yet, and
> probably half were kits, which take longer to come on-line. Some of those
> received have already been mentioned on this forum, or on the Yahoo group
> (search for "K3S" in the archives). But only a small percentage of our
> customers participate in the forum at any given time.
>
> In addition to forum comments, the first customer to post an eHam review
> of the K3S created a product category for it:
>
>     http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/12433
>
> There are two reviews so far, both very thoughtful (and long -- proceed
> with caution :)
>
> We're of course very happy to see so many positive comments. There are
> also a few minor negative points, typical of any product. We take these as
> constructive input toward future improvements. One reviewer with a very
> sensitive sense of touch (speculation on my part) commented that he could
> feel the felt pad under the VFO knob. This pad is intended to create drag,
> and the amount of drag is adjustable. But, haptics being in the fingers of
> the beholder, I emailed him to discuss hypothetical alternatives.
>
> I'm sure there will be additional postings and reviews soon. Meanwhile,
> we're working out a few last annoyances in our shipping procedure in hopes
> of shipping more quickly.
>
> We'll also have a new firmware release for the K3/K3S this week.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
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Re: New K3S

David Ahrendts
K3S #10125 was born Saturday, July 25th, 3pm. It’s companion PX3, yesterday. Still calibrating, but I just wanted to send five stars to everyone at Elecraft on yet again another wonderful experience in kit building. So much detailed thought goes into packaging, the assembly manual, and of course, the style and design. If you’re new to Elecraft and you’re exploring building a kit, just know you are expertly guided through the build process by thee best people in this business. I do admit I confused a 4.0mm spacer with a 4.8mm spacer, but that was in hour 7 of the build. I’ll forgive myself for that! :—)  Five stars people. Bravo, bravo, bravo.

David Ahrendts, KC0XT, Los Angeles

> On Jul 27, 2015, at 3:11 PM, Keith Robinson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hello All,
> I have K3S s/n 10027. I have had it since July 6th and I am VERY happy with the K3S.
> It out performs any other radio I have ever used. I can't wait to get home from work every day so I can
> use the radio.   The best Ham Radio purchase I've ever made!
> Keith Robinson
> W4KTR
>
> -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email]
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 5:57 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New K3S
>
> Yesterday we had the first K3S check in for the Elecraft CW Net.
> Comparing K2s, K1s, KX1s, K3s, KX3s, and the new K3Ss is fun :)  It is
> hard to tell them apart unless the owner tells you which they are running.
>    73,
>        Kevin.  KD5ONS
>
>
> On 7/27/2015 2:48 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> Joe W2KJ <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy Gang:
>>>
>>> I wonder if anyone has received a new K3S yet??
>> Hi Joe,
>>
>> We have shipped a few dozen, but some have not been received yet, and probably half were kits, which take longer to come on-line. Some of those received have already been mentioned on this forum, or on the Yahoo group (search for "K3S" in the archives). But only a small percentage of our customers participate in the forum at any given time.
>>
>> In addition to forum comments, the first customer to post an eHam review of the K3S created a product category for it:
>>
>>    http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/12433
>>
>> There are two reviews so far, both very thoughtful (and long -- proceed with caution :)
>>
>> We're of course very happy to see so many positive comments. There are also a few minor negative points, typical of any product. We take these as constructive input toward future improvements. One reviewer with a very sensitive sense of touch (speculation on my part) commented that he could feel the felt pad under the VFO knob. This pad is intended to create drag, and the amount of drag is adjustable. But, haptics being in the fingers of the beholder, I emailed him to discuss hypothetical alternatives.
>>
>> I'm sure there will be additional postings and reviews soon. Meanwhile, we're working out a few last annoyances in our shipping procedure in hopes of shipping more quickly.
>>
>> We'll also have a new firmware release for the K3/K3S this week.
>>
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
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Re: New K3S

Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ
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Wayne is off in one minor respect - we've shipped well more than a few dozen K3S
radios and are well into the hundreds now.  :-)

73,
Eric
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On 7/27/2015 2:48 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

> Joe W2KJ <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Howdy Gang:
> I wonder if anyone has received a new K3S yet??
> ===
> Hi Joe,
>
> We have shipped a few dozen, but some have not been received yet, and probably half were kits, which take longer to come on-line. Some of those received have already been mentioned on this forum, or on the Yahoo group (search for "K3S" in the archives). But only a small percentage of our customers participate in the forum at any given time.
>
> In addition to forum comments, the first customer to post an eHam review of the K3S created a product category for it:
>
>     http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/12433
>
> There are two reviews so far, both very thoughtful (and long -- proceed with caution :)
>
> We're of course very happy to see so many positive comments. There are also a few minor negative points, typical of any product. We take these as constructive input toward future improvements. One reviewer with a very sensitive sense of touch (speculation on my part) commented that he could feel the felt pad under the VFO knob. This pad is intended to create drag, and the amount of drag is adjustable. But, haptics being in the fingers of the beholder, I emailed him to discuss hypothetical alternatives.
>
> I'm sure there will be additional postings and reviews soon. Meanwhile, we're working out a few last annoyances in our shipping procedure in hopes of shipping more quickly.
>
> We'll also have a new firmware release for the K3/K3S this week.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR

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Re: New K3S

Peter W2IRT
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My K3S, S/N 10023, arrived a few weeks ago and I couldn't be happier with
it. Never had an original K3, but the receive audio is good and filtering
with the matched pair of 400s and the 250 in the main VFO was stunning
during the IARU contest. I've only played a little bit on 6m and the preamp
does a good job, I guess, but I'm not a big 6m guy to begin with. I have a
very noisy amp (Ameritron AL-1200) that sounds like a jet engine. The K3S's
noise gate makes phone operation so much better. I'm using an HC-5 boom mic
element and without any TX audio EQ, MIC set to 35 (real panel, high) and
compression of 12 to 15 I'm getting superb audio reports on-air. True
plug-and-play in that department. CW TX is great, receive is like nothing
I've ever experienced before (in a *very* good way) and the decode works OK
on strong signals for when the other op is just a bit too fast for my ears.


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Subject: [Elecraft] New K3S

Howdy Gang:

I wonder if anyone has received a new K3S yet??

Would certainly appreciate any comments as to performance, receive audio
quality, new preamps, etc, etc.

Many thanks for any info.

                        73, Joe W2KJ
                        I QRP, therefore I am
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Re: New K3S

Bob Martin
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K3S 10081 is on the air.

Still integrating it into the shack. First contact was on 80 meters with the local HF net. Second was a ZL1 on the North Island on 40.

Hard to compare it with other radios -- this replaces an Icom IC-7000, which isn't at all in the same league.

Still learning how to run it. Still trying to figure out digital modes -- any places on the net to visit where I can find out what they sound like when properly tuned? Still waiting for third party software types to adapt their code to the new USB interface, particularly for those digital modes. Also waiting for another pair of filters to arrive.

I wrote the (construction) review on eham.net <http://eham.net/> -- and I sent off a slew of nits on the Rev A assembly manual, nothing major. Assembly was easy, only requiring three hands in a few places. Enabling options can be a challenge -- that could use a dedicated section with things gathered together in one place. As an example, I just figured out how to get the KXV3's second preamp for 10 and 6 working -- it's in the manual, scattered about a bit, but the magic step is to hit "9" on the keypad when the config menu shows KXV3 rather than KCV3B. Once that's set, the rest is easy.

Wonderful radio -- never thought I'd own something of this calibre. My son KG6MOV surprised the hell out of me by getting this for me for father's day (he tried -- I told Mike at Elecraft that I was glad they had the problem of too many orders for the K3S, and hoped they had it for quite a while). It will be our Field Day radio next year. By then we'll be old friends and get along much better.

Happy to take questions, hints, and suggestions!

73,

bob k6rtm

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Re: New K3S

wayne burdick
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Bob Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Enabling options can be a challenge -- that could use a dedicated section with things gathered together in one place. As an example, I just figured out how to get the KXV3's second preamp for 10 and 6 working -- it's in the manual, scattered about a bit, but the magic step is to hit "9" on the keypad when the config menu shows KXV3 rather than KCV3B. Once that's set, the rest is easy.

Hi Bob,

We tried to gather all of the configuration settings, such as this one, into a single section. See page 48-50 (Configuration).

Thanks again for all your input on the assembly manual.

Wayne
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Re: New K3S

Byron Peebles
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As does UPS Ground coast-to-coast!  :)  73, Byron

On 07/27/2015 05:48 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> probably half were kits, which take longer to come on-line

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Re: New K3S

Mark AB7MP
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According to the web site, mine is 2 - 3 weeks out!
Patience isn't one of my virtues!!!  :-)

73
Mark, ab7mp
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Re: New K3S

Bob McGraw - K4TAX
I placed my order for a K3S-F on July 2.  Based on information, and in
speaking with Elecraft yesterday, I'm still 2 to 3 weeks out for the
K3S-F.   I'm hoping the week of August 17 will have a delivery at my door.

73 Bob, K4TAX

On 7/28/2015 7:39 PM, Mark wrote:

> According to the web site, mine is 2 - 3 weeks out!
> Patience isn't one of my virtues!!!  :-)
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Re: K3/K3S firmware rev. 5.32: Sub RX mismatched filter fix; "Safe" option for PTT-KEY via USB; new remote control commands; etc.

Mike Cox
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I've loaded 5.32 wondering what it does for diversity reception. Here's
my observations:

My radio is the K3S (built last Saturday). The mismatched filters were
robbed from my old K3 (s/n 398) along with the sub Rx and transplanted
into the new K3S. The "old" radio also has the new Synth boards. In that
previous radio I ran diversity without the 200 Hz filter enabled in the
sub receiver, using instead the stock 2.7 KHz filter which had an offset
nearly identical to my main Rx 200 Hz filter.. My 200 Hz filters were
not matched, having been ordered separately at different times. One is
-.91 and the other is -.72 offset. In the past I had tried to set a
compromise of about -.80 on both filters for reasonable diversity but
then they were so poorly aligned that sensitivity and passbands suffered
from being on the steep slopes of the filters. 200 Hz. filters just
don't allow much latitude to compromise the offsets.

Now with FW 5.32 I'm listening through both filters at 150 Hz bandwidth
in diversity mode with the filter offsets at their prescribed amounts.
I'm currently listening on 30 meters. I'm hearing weaker signals gently
passing between my ears very slowly with no particular rhythm and with
no woosh-woosh. Those of you using diversity will know what I mean. It's
great! My antennas are a 1/4 wave sloper on the main and a Pixel loop
antenna on the AUX input to the sub receiver. I now don't see a real
need to have the 5 pole filters matched to achieve great diversity
reception. This setup is sounding great! I LOVE IT!

Without diversity reception I would not have 160 Meter DXCC from my
small, noisy city lot. Now it's just gotten better.

Great job, Wayne and guys and gals! A great product just keeps getting
better!

73,
Mike, AB9V



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Re: K3/K3S firmware rev. 5.32: Sub RX mismatched filter fix; "Safe" option for PTT-KEY via USB; new remote control commands; etc.

wayne burdick
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Our pleasure, Mike. I'm glad it's working well for you.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Jul 30, 2015, at 8:31 PM, Mike Cox <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I've loaded 5.32 wondering what it does for diversity reception. Here's my observations:
>
> My radio is the K3S (built last Saturday). The mismatched filters were robbed from my old K3 (s/n 398) along with the sub Rx and transplanted into the new K3S. The "old" radio also has the new Synth boards. In that previous radio I ran diversity without the 200 Hz filter enabled in the sub receiver, using instead the stock 2.7 KHz filter which had an offset nearly identical to my main Rx 200 Hz filter.. My 200 Hz filters were not matched, having been ordered separately at different times. One is -.91 and the other is -.72 offset. In the past I had tried to set a compromise of about -.80 on both filters for reasonable diversity but then they were so poorly aligned that sensitivity and passbands suffered from being on the steep slopes of the filters. 200 Hz. filters just don't allow much latitude to compromise the offsets.
>
> Now with FW 5.32 I'm listening through both filters at 150 Hz bandwidth in diversity mode with the filter offsets at their prescribed amounts. I'm currently listening on 30 meters. I'm hearing weaker signals gently passing between my ears very slowly with no particular rhythm and with no woosh-woosh. Those of you using diversity will know what I mean. It's great! My antennas are a 1/4 wave sloper on the main and a Pixel loop antenna on the AUX input to the sub receiver. I now don't see a real need to have the 5 pole filters matched to achieve great diversity reception. This setup is sounding great! I LOVE IT!
>
> Without diversity reception I would not have 160 Meter DXCC from my small, noisy city lot. Now it's just gotten better.
>
> Great job, Wayne and guys and gals! A great product just keeps getting better!
>
> 73,
> Mike, AB9V

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