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wayne burdick

New KX3 firmware available that restores original AF gain level

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Hi all,

Rev. 2.70 KX3 firmware unintentionally reduced the max AF gain setting for both speaker and headphones. (We improved the granularity of the AF GAIN control at the low end but didn’t get around to scaling the high end back up to the original level.)

If you were affected by this and would like to try the field test release (rev. 2.76), please email me directly.

This rev also includes the new “ATU DATA” menu entry, which gives you two full sets of per-band ATU data for use when running the KX3 “barefoot” (without the KXPA100/KXAT100). Typically one set would be used at home, the other in the field. If you do a lot of outings, this can save you the trouble of re-matching all of your antennas when you get home. Another use for this is with two different antennas for a given band.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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New KX3 firmware also improves AF gain & monitor control granularity

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This revision also improves the granularity of the AF gain and monitor level controls. Steps at the low end are about half the size as before.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

> On Apr 27, 2017, at 8:38 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Rev. 2.70 KX3 firmware unintentionally reduced the max AF gain setting for both speaker and headphones. (We improved the granularity of the AF GAIN control at the low end but didn’t get around to scaling the high end back up to the original level.)
>
> If you were affected by this and would like to try the field test release (rev. 2.76), please email me directly.
>
> This rev also includes the new “ATU DATA” menu entry, which gives you two full sets of per-band ATU data for use when running the KX3 “barefoot” (without the KXPA100/KXAT100). Typically one set would be used at home, the other in the field. If you do a lot of outings, this can save you the trouble of re-matching all of your antennas when you get home. Another use for this is with two different antennas for a given band.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>

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Re: New KX3 firmware also improves AF gain & monitor control granularity

So, let me ask a simple question: will Elecraft release another firmware to correct this issue???!!!
Just let me know...
Thanks,
Fernando Sindeaux

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 28, 2017, at 1:25 AM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> This revision also improves the granularity of the AF gain and monitor level controls. Steps at the low end are about half the size as before.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 8:38 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Rev. 2.70 KX3 firmware unintentionally reduced the max AF gain setting for both speaker and headphones. (We improved the granularity of the AF GAIN control at the low end but didn’t get around to scaling the high end back up to the original level.)
>>
>> If you were affected by this and would like to try the field test release (rev. 2.76), please email me directly.
>>
>> This rev also includes the new “ATU DATA” menu entry, which gives you two full sets of per-band ATU data for use when running the KX3 “barefoot” (without the KXPA100/KXAT100). Typically one set would be used at home, the other in the field. If you do a lot of outings, this can save you the trouble of re-matching all of your antennas when you get home. Another use for this is with two different antennas for a given band.
>>
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
>>
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David Orman

Re: New KX3 firmware also improves AF gain & monitor control granularity

Yes; Wayne mentioned the fix was in the field test release, which assuming
no bugs are discovered, eventually gets promoted to a full release
following the test period.

On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 9:21 AM, Fernando Sindeaux via Elecraft <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> So, let me ask a simple question: will Elecraft release another firmware
> to correct this issue???!!!
> Just let me know...
> Thanks,
> Fernando Sindeaux
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 28, 2017, at 1:25 AM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > This revision also improves the granularity of the AF gain and monitor
> level controls. Steps at the low end are about half the size as before.
> >
> > 73,
> > Wayne
> > N6KR
> >
> >
> >> On Apr 27, 2017, at 8:38 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Rev. 2.70 KX3 firmware unintentionally reduced the max AF gain setting
> for both speaker and headphones. (We improved the granularity of the AF
> GAIN control at the low end but didn’t get around to scaling the high end
> back up to the original level.)
> >>
> >> If you were affected by this and would like to try the field test
> release (rev. 2.76), please email me directly.
> >>
> >> This rev also includes the new “ATU DATA” menu entry, which gives you
> two full sets of per-band ATU data for use when running the KX3 “barefoot”
> (without the KXPA100/KXAT100). Typically one set would be used at home, the
> other in the field. If you do a lot of outings, this can save you the
> trouble of re-matching all of your antennas when you get home. Another use
> for this is with two different antennas for a given band.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Wayne
> >> N6KR
> >>
> >>
> >
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David Orman

Re: [KX3] New KX3 firmware also improves AF gain & monitor control granularity

In reply to this post by wayne burdick

Hi Wayne,

Will this be released soon? The AF gain change is something I am very much
looking forward to.

Thank you for keeping these updates coming all these years,
David / K5DJO

On Apr 27, 2017 23:25, "Wayne Burdick [hidden email] [KX3]" <
[hidden email]> wrote:

This revision also improves the granularity of the AF gain and monitor
level controls. Steps at the low end are about half the size as before.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

> On Apr 27, 2017, at 8:38 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Rev. 2.70 KX3 firmware unintentionally reduced the max AF gain setting
for both speaker and headphones. (We improved the granularity of the AF
GAIN control at the low end but didn’t get around to scaling the high end
back up to the original level.)
>
> If you were affected by this and would like to try the field test release
(rev. 2.76), please email me directly.
>
> This rev also includes the new “ATU DATA” menu entry, which gives you two
full sets of per-band ATU data for use when running the KX3 “barefoot”
(without the KXPA100/KXAT100). Typically one set would be used at home, the
other in the field. If you do a lot of outings, this can save you the
trouble of re-matching all of your antennas when you get home. Another use
for this is with two different antennas for a given band.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>

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Grant Youngman-2

Re: [KX3] New KX3 firmware also improves AF gain & monitor control granularity

Check the KX3 firmware page. 2.76 has already been released.

> On May 13, 2017, at 8:46 PM, David Orman <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Wayne,
>
> Will this be released soon? The AF gain change is something I am very much
> looking forward to.
>
>

Grant NQ5T
K3 #2091, KX3 #8342

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David Orman

Re: [KX3] New KX3 firmware also improves AF gain & monitor control granularity

Missed it since beta was still 2.70 on said page. I should have kept
scrolling! Thank you for the tip, it works like a champ.

On May 13, 2017 19:51, "GRANT YOUNGMAN" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Check the KX3 firmware page. 2.76 has already been released.
>
>
> > On May 13, 2017, at 8:46 PM, David Orman <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Wayne,
> >
> > Will this be released soon? The AF gain change is something I am very
> much
> > looking forward to.
> >
> >
>
> Grant NQ5T
> K3 #2091, KX3 #8342
>
>
>
>

Erik Tkal

Re: New KX3 firmware available that restores original AF gain level

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Hi Wayne,

There is one major quirk with the new ATU.DATA menu item on the KX3. When using the KXPA100 the menu item shows up with the label N/A and value "--". And then when you scroll up or down to the next menu item it takes up to a second to show the correct label. Even when you are scrolling fast through the items and go past that one the N/A appears and persists as you scroll. All the other transitions are immediate except this one. Shouldn't the label still show as ATU.DATA and have the value show "--" or "N/A"? E.g. like 2M/4M shows as "not inSt".

I'm going to update my KX2 to the beta that also has this and see if it also shows the same quirk.

Thanks and 73,
Erik Tkal - W1QED

On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:38 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi all,

Rev. 2.70 KX3 firmware unintentionally reduced the max AF gain setting for both speaker and headphones. (We improved the granularity of the AF GAIN control at the low end but didn’t get around to scaling the high end back up to the original level.)

If you were affected by this and would like to try the field test release (rev. 2.76), please email me directly.

This rev also includes the new “ATU DATA” menu entry, which gives you two full sets of per-band ATU data for use when running the KX3 “barefoot” (without the KXPA100/KXAT100). Typically one set would be used at home, the other in the field. If you do a lot of outings, this can save you the trouble of re-matching all of your antennas when you get home. Another use for this is with two different antennas for a given band.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Erik Tkal

Re: New KX3 firmware available that restores original AF gain level

BTW, the KX2 with 2.77 behaves exactly the same way when scrolling past the N/A with the KXPA100 enabled.

Thanks and 73,
Erik Tkal - W1QED

On Jun 18, 2017, at 10:34 AM, E T <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Wayne,

There is one major quirk with the new ATU.DATA menu item on the KX3. When using the KXPA100 the menu item shows up with the label N/A and value "--". And then when you scroll up or down to the next menu item it takes up to a second to show the correct label. Even when you are scrolling fast through the items and go past that one the N/A appears and persists as you scroll. All the other transitions are immediate except this one. Shouldn't the label still show as ATU.DATA and have the value show "--" or "N/A"? E.g. like 2M/4M shows as "not inSt".

I'm going to update my KX2 to the beta that also has this and see if it also shows the same quirk.

Thanks and 73,
Erik Tkal - W1QED

On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:38 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:

Hi all,

Rev. 2.70 KX3 firmware unintentionally reduced the max AF gain setting for both speaker and headphones. (We improved the granularity of the AF GAIN control at the low end but didn’t get around to scaling the high end back up to the original level.)

If you were affected by this and would like to try the field test release (rev. 2.76), please email me directly.

This rev also includes the new “ATU DATA” menu entry, which gives you two full sets of per-band ATU data for use when running the KX3 “barefoot” (without the KXPA100/KXAT100). Typically one set would be used at home, the other in the field. If you do a lot of outings, this can save you the trouble of re-matching all of your antennas when you get home. Another use for this is with two different antennas for a given band.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Erik Tkal

KX2/KX3 menu pauses when passing ATU.DATA with KXPA100 attached

Any confirmation on this issue?

Thanks and 73,
Erik Tkal - W1QED

On Jun 18, 2017, at 13:00, E T <[hidden email]> wrote:

BTW, the KX2 with 2.77 behaves exactly the same way when scrolling past the N/A with the KXPA100 enabled.

Thanks and 73,
Erik Tkal - W1QED

On Jun 18, 2017, at 10:34 AM, E T <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:

Hi Wayne,

There is one major quirk with the new ATU.DATA menu item on the KX3. When using the KXPA100 the menu item shows up with the label N/A and value "--". And then when you scroll up or down to the next menu item it takes up to a second to show the correct label. Even when you are scrolling fast through the items and go past that one the N/A appears and persists as you scroll. All the other transitions are immediate except this one. Shouldn't the label still show as ATU.DATA and have the value show "--" or "N/A"? E.g. like 2M/4M shows as "not inSt".

I'm going to update my KX2 to the beta that also has this and see if it also shows the same quirk.

Thanks and 73,
Erik Tkal - W1QED

On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:38 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:

Hi all,

Rev. 2.70 KX3 firmware unintentionally reduced the max AF gain setting for both speaker and headphones. (We improved the granularity of the AF GAIN control at the low end but didn’t get around to scaling the high end back up to the original level.)

If you were affected by this and would like to try the field test release (rev. 2.76), please email me directly.

This rev also includes the new “ATU DATA” menu entry, which gives you two full sets of per-band ATU data for use when running the KX3 “barefoot” (without the KXPA100/KXAT100). Typically one set would be used at home, the other in the field. If you do a lot of outings, this can save you the trouble of re-matching all of your antennas when you get home. Another use for this is with two different antennas for a given band.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: KX2/KX3 menu pauses when passing ATU.DATA with KXPA100 attached

Erik,

I cannot confirm or deny, but the 2 sets of ATU.DATA should be "N/A" or
"--" when the KXPA100 is enabled.

Think about it a bit - the 2 data sets only pertain to the internal ATU
in the KX2/KX3. When the KXPA100 is enabled, that internal tuner is
bypassed because any ATU must be on the output of the KXPA100.

The 2 sets of ATU.DATA is for field and home operation of the base
KX2/KX3, not for the KXAT100.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/6/2017 9:23 AM, Erik Tkal wrote:

> Any confirmation on this issue?
>
> Thanks and 73,
> Erik Tkal - W1QED
>
>
>
> On Jun 18, 2017, at 13:00, E T <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> BTW, the KX2 with 2.77 behaves exactly the same way when scrolling past the N/A with the KXPA100 enabled.
>
> Thanks and 73,
> Erik Tkal - W1QED
>
> On Jun 18, 2017, at 10:34 AM, E T <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
> Hi Wayne,
>
> There is one major quirk with the new ATU.DATA menu item on the KX3. When using the KXPA100 the menu item shows up with the label N/A and value "--". And then when you scroll up or down to the next menu item it takes up to a second to show the correct label. Even when you are scrolling fast through the items and go past that one the N/A appears and persists as you scroll. All the other transitions are immediate except this one. Shouldn't the label still show as ATU.DATA and have the value show "--" or "N/A"? E.g. like 2M/4M shows as "not inSt".
>
> I'm going to update my KX2 to the beta that also has this and see if it also shows the same quirk.
>
> Thanks and 73,
> Erik Tkal - W1QED
>
>
> On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:38 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Rev. 2.70 KX3 firmware unintentionally reduced the max AF gain setting for both speaker and headphones. (We improved the granularity of the AF GAIN control at the low end but didn’t get around to scaling the high end back up to the original level.)
>
> If you were affected by this and would like to try the field test release (rev. 2.76), please email me directly.
>
> This rev also includes the new “ATU DATA” menu entry, which gives you two full sets of per-band ATU data for use when running the KX3 “barefoot” (without the KXPA100/KXAT100). Typically one set would be used at home, the other in the field. If you do a lot of outings, this can save you the trouble of re-matching all of your antennas when you get home. Another use for this is with two different antennas for a given band.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
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Re: KX2/KX3 menu pauses when passing ATU.DATA with KXPA100 attached

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This is definitely a bug (annoying, but not serious). Thanks for catching it.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

> On Jul 6, 2017, at 6:23 AM, Erik Tkal <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Any confirmation on this issue?
>
> Thanks and 73,
> Erik Tkal - W1QED
>
>
>
> On Jun 18, 2017, at 13:00, E T <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> BTW, the KX2 with 2.77 behaves exactly the same way when scrolling past the N/A with the KXPA100 enabled.
>
> Thanks and 73,
> Erik Tkal - W1QED
>
> On Jun 18, 2017, at 10:34 AM, E T <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Wayne,
>
> There is one major quirk with the new ATU.DATA menu item on the KX3. When using the KXPA100 the menu item shows up with the label N/A and value "--". And then when you scroll up or down to the next menu item it takes up to a second to show the correct label. Even when you are scrolling fast through the items and go past that one the N/A appears and persists as you scroll. All the other transitions are immediate except this one. Shouldn't the label still show as ATU.DATA and have the value show "--" or "N/A"? E.g. like 2M/4M shows as "not inSt".
>
> I'm going to update my KX2 to the beta that also has this and see if it also shows the same quirk.
>
> Thanks and 73,
> Erik Tkal - W1QED
>
>
> On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:38 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Rev. 2.70 KX3 firmware unintentionally reduced the max AF gain setting for both speaker and headphones. (We improved the granularity of the AF GAIN control at the low end but didn’t get around to scaling the high end back up to the original level.)
>
> If you were affected by this and would like to try the field test release (rev. 2.76), please email me directly.
>
> This rev also includes the new “ATU DATA” menu entry, which gives you two full sets of per-band ATU data for use when running the KX3 “barefoot” (without the KXPA100/KXAT100). Typically one set would be used at home, the other in the field. If you do a lot of outings, this can save you the trouble of re-matching all of your antennas when you get home. Another use for this is with two different antennas for a given band.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
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Erik Tkal

Re: KX2/KX3 menu pauses when passing ATU.DATA with KXPA100 attached

In reply to this post by Don Wilhelm

But the menu item label itself goes to N/A, which is not alphabetical and doesn’t tell you *what* is not available, which is inconsistent with other functions that are at times not applicable. It’s really the latency when scrolling past that is the issue, as I scroll quickly to search and trying to settle on a nearby item is kinda broken (I have to wait for the N/A to go away since it does not do that as soon as I scroll to the next item so I can’t even tell what the next item is). It works fine with no KXPA100 attached.

Thanks and 73,
Erik Tkal - W1QED

On Jul 6, 2017, at 10:55, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:

Erik,

I cannot confirm or deny, but the 2 sets of ATU.DATA should be "N/A" or "--" when the KXPA100 is enabled.

Think about it a bit - the 2 data sets only pertain to the internal ATU in the KX2/KX3. When the KXPA100 is enabled, that internal tuner is bypassed because any ATU must be on the output of the KXPA100.

The 2 sets of ATU.DATA is for field and home operation of the base KX2/KX3, not for the KXAT100.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/6/2017 9:23 AM, Erik Tkal wrote:

> Any confirmation on this issue?
> Thanks and 73,
> Erik Tkal - W1QED
> On Jun 18, 2017, at 13:00, E T <[hidden email]> wrote:
> BTW, the KX2 with 2.77 behaves exactly the same way when scrolling past the N/A with the KXPA100 enabled.
> Thanks and 73,
> Erik Tkal - W1QED
> On Jun 18, 2017, at 10:34 AM, E T <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
> Hi Wayne,
> There is one major quirk with the new ATU.DATA menu item on the KX3. When using the KXPA100 the menu item shows up with the label N/A and value "--". And then when you scroll up or down to the next menu item it takes up to a second to show the correct label. Even when you are scrolling fast through the items and go past that one the N/A appears and persists as you scroll. All the other transitions are immediate except this one. Shouldn't the label still show as ATU.DATA and have the value show "--" or "N/A"? E.g. like 2M/4M shows as "not inSt".
> I'm going to update my KX2 to the beta that also has this and see if it also shows the same quirk.
> Thanks and 73,
> Erik Tkal - W1QED
> On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:38 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
> Hi all,
> Rev. 2.70 KX3 firmware unintentionally reduced the max AF gain setting for both speaker and headphones. (We improved the granularity of the AF GAIN control at the low end but didn’t get around to scaling the high end back up to the original level.)
> If you were affected by this and would like to try the field test release (rev. 2.76), please email me directly.
> This rev also includes the new “ATU DATA” menu entry, which gives you two full sets of per-band ATU data for use when running the KX3 “barefoot” (without the KXPA100/KXAT100). Typically one set would be used at home, the other in the field. If you do a lot of outings, this can save you the trouble of re-matching all of your antennas when you get home. Another use for this is with two different antennas for a given band.
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
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Erik Tkal

Re: KX2/KX3 menu pauses when passing ATU.DATA with KXPA100 attached

In reply to this post by wayne burdick

Ok, thanks, will wait for the next update.

Thanks and 73,
Erik Tkal - W1QED

On Jul 6, 2017, at 13:09, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:

This is definitely a bug (annoying, but not serious). Thanks for catching it.

73,
Wayne
N6KR