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New owner with New K3S kit need help?

WA7SPY
I have a new K3S kit and P3 kit that I put together. The following options are installed:
FL1 - 13khz FM filter
FL2 - 2.7 khz filter
FL3 - 400 hz filter
FL3 - 200 hz filter
KPA3A 100 watt PA
KAT3A 100 watt Tuner
KBPF3A General coverage band pass
KTCX03-1 High stability TCXO
K144XV internal 2 meter module
K3EXREF external 10mhz reference
K144XV phase lock board.
The K3S and options are all working. I had a problem with 2meters being off frequency after adding the K3EXREF and the K144XV reference board. I did a complete reset to factory defaults. I removed the K144XV reference board. Then set the 2 meter offset back to what was labeled on the module. The 2 meter frequency was accurate. I put the K144XV reference board back in. Now the 2 meter frequency is accurate with the board back in. My question is where is the TMP cable suppose to be connected on the KSYN3 board? I have one end connected to REF IN on the 2 meter module. I initially connected the other end to J4 on the KSYN3. I now have it connected to J1 on the KSYN3 do I have the TMP cable connected correctly? The documentation is a little confusing to me. Figure 13 page 15 on the K3EXREF manual shows J4 being used on the KSYN3A if both the KXV144 reference board and the KEXREF options are installed. There is an Errata sheet showing to use J1 on the KSYN3 board. Which one is cor
 rect to use for my set up J1 or J4?
The K3EXREF is working with very accurate frequency on the HF bands with my GPS 10 MHz disciplined oscillator clock  connected. The 2 meter frequency was off when connected to J4. I am not sure if it was corrupt software and doing the reset corrected the issue and am uncertain where to connect to on the KSYN3A board?

Thanks for any help,
Glenn Maclean WA7SPY
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Re: New owner with New K3S kit need help?

stengrevics
Hi Glenn,

I had problems with this as well.  I asked tech support and they sent an email showing the following correct cable placement:

1.  From J2 on KREF3 board to J83 on the Main KSYN3A board.

2.  From J1 on the Main KSYN3A board to REF I note K144XV with Reference Oscillator Phase Lock Option Installed.

Hope this is helpful.  

John
WA1EAZ

> On Jul 14, 2018, at 10:41 AM, WA7SPY <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I have a new K3S kit and P3 kit that I put together. The following options are installed:
> FL1 - 13khz FM filter
> FL2 - 2.7 khz filter
> FL3 - 400 hz filter
> FL3 - 200 hz filter
> KPA3A 100 watt PA
> KAT3A 100 watt Tuner
> KBPF3A General coverage band pass
> KTCX03-1 High stability TCXO
> K144XV internal 2 meter module
> K3EXREF external 10mhz reference
> K144XV phase lock board.
> The K3S and options are all working. I had a problem with 2meters being off frequency after adding the K3EXREF and the K144XV reference board. I did a complete reset to factory defaults. I removed the K144XV reference board. Then set the 2 meter offset back to what was labeled on the module. The 2 meter frequency was accurate. I put the K144XV reference board back in. Now the 2 meter frequency is accurate with the board back in. My question is where is the TMP cable suppose to be connected on the KSYN3 board? I have one end connected to REF IN on the 2 meter module. I initially connected the other end to J4 on the KSYN3. I now have it connected to J1 on the KSYN3 do I have the TMP cable connected correctly? The documentation is a little confusing to me. Figure 13 page 15 on the K3EXREF manual shows J4 being used on the KSYN3A if both the KXV144 reference board and the KEXREF options are installed. There is an Errata sheet showing to use J1 on the KSYN3 board. Which one is c
 or

> rect to use for my set up J1 or J4?
> The K3EXREF is working with very accurate frequency on the HF bands with my GPS 10 MHz disciplined oscillator clock  connected. The 2 meter frequency was off when connected to J4. I am not sure if it was corrupt software and doing the reset corrected the issue and am uncertain where to connect to on the KSYN3A board?
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Glenn Maclean WA7SPY
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Re: New owner with New K3S kit need help?

stengrevics
Sorry - spell check strikes again:

2.  From J1 on the Main KSYN3A board to REF IN on the K144XV with Reference Oscillator Phase Lock Option installed.

John

> On Jul 14, 2018, at 10:51 AM, John Stengrevics <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Glenn,
>
> I had problems with this as well.  I asked tech support and they sent an email showing the following correct cable placement:
>
> 1.  From J2 on KREF3 board to J83 on the Main KSYN3A board.
>
> 2.  From J1 on the Main KSYN3A board to REF I note K144XV with Reference Oscillator Phase Lock Option Installed.
>
> Hope this is helpful.  
>
> John
> WA1EAZ
>
>> On Jul 14, 2018, at 10:41 AM, WA7SPY <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I have a new K3S kit and P3 kit that I put together. The following options are installed:
>> FL1 - 13khz FM filter
>> FL2 - 2.7 khz filter
>> FL3 - 400 hz filter
>> FL3 - 200 hz filter
>> KPA3A 100 watt PA
>> KAT3A 100 watt Tuner
>> KBPF3A General coverage band pass
>> KTCX03-1 High stability TCXO
>> K144XV internal 2 meter module
>> K3EXREF external 10mhz reference
>> K144XV phase lock board.
>> The K3S and options are all working. I had a problem with 2meters being off frequency after adding the K3EXREF and the K144XV reference board. I did a complete reset to factory defaults. I removed the K144XV reference board. Then set the 2 meter offset back to what was labeled on the module. The 2 meter frequency was accurate. I put the K144XV reference board back in. Now the 2 meter frequency is accurate with the board back in. My question is where is the TMP cable suppose to be connected on the KSYN3 board? I have one end connected to REF IN on the 2 meter module. I initially connected the other end to J4 on the KSYN3. I now have it connected to J1 on the KSYN3 do I have the TMP cable connected correctly? The documentation is a little confusing to me. Figure 13 page 15 on the K3EXREF manual shows J4 being used on the KSYN3A if both the KXV144 reference board and the KEXREF options are installed. There is an Errata sheet showing to use J1 on the KSYN3 board. Which one is
 c

> or
>> rect to use for my set up J1 or J4?
>> The K3EXREF is working with very accurate frequency on the HF bands with my GPS 10 MHz disciplined oscillator clock  connected. The 2 meter frequency was off when connected to J4. I am not sure if it was corrupt software and doing the reset corrected the issue and am uncertain where to connect to on the KSYN3A board?
>>
>> Thanks for any help,
>> Glenn Maclean WA7SPY
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Re: New owner with New K3S kit need help?

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Glenn,

The errata sheets always supersedes the manual - it is the latest
update/correction.  The designation on the errata title carries the
manual designation that is to be corrected.
Go to the Documentation download page to be certain you have the latest.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/14/2018 10:41 AM, WA7SPY wrote:

> The K3S and options are all working. I had a problem with 2meters being off frequency after adding the K3EXREF and the K144XV reference board. I did a complete reset to factory defaults. I removed the K144XV reference board. Then set the 2 meter offset back to what was labeled on the module. The 2 meter frequency was accurate. I put the K144XV reference board back in. Now the 2 meter frequency is accurate with the board back in. My question is where is the TMP cable suppose to be connected on the KSYN3 board? I have one end connected to REF IN on the 2 meter module. I initially connected the other end to J4 on the KSYN3. I now have it connected to J1 on the KSYN3 do I have the TMP cable connected correctly? The documentation is a little confusing to me. Figure 13 page 15 on the K3EXREF manual shows J4 being used on the KSYN3A if both the KXV144 reference board and the KEXREF options are installed. There is an Errata sheet showing to use J1 on the KSYN3 board. Which one is c
 or
>   rect to use for my set up J1 or J4?
> The K3EXREF is working with very accurate frequency on the HF bands with my GPS 10 MHz disciplined oscillator clock  connected. The 2 meter frequency was off when connected to J4. I am not sure if it was corrupt software and doing the reset corrected the issue and am uncertain where to connect to on the KSYN3A board?
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Re: New owner with New K3S kit need help?

WA7SPY
Hi Don,
I understand about the Errata. The confusion is the Errata is for the KXV144 Reference module dated Dec 5 2013 showing placement at J1 on the KSYN3A. The K3EXREF manual is dated August 23, 2016 and shows placement at J4 on the KSYN3A. Hence confusion?
Glenn Maclean WA7SPY



> On Jul 14, 2018, at 8:19 AM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Glenn,
>
> The errata sheets always supersedes the manual - it is the latest update/correction.  The designation on the errata title carries the manual designation that is to be corrected.
> Go to the Documentation download page to be certain you have the latest.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>> On 7/14/2018 10:41 AM, WA7SPY wrote:
>>
>> The K3S and options are all working. I had a problem with 2meters being off frequency after adding the K3EXREF and the K144XV reference board. I did a complete reset to factory defaults. I removed the K144XV reference board. Then set the 2 meter offset back to what was labeled on the module. The 2 meter frequency was accurate. I put the K144XV reference board back in. Now the 2 meter frequency is accurate with the board back in. My question is where is the TMP cable suppose to be connected on the KSYN3 board? I have one end connected to REF IN on the 2 meter module. I initially connected the other end to J4 on the KSYN3. I now have it connected to J1 on the KSYN3 do I have the TMP cable connected correctly? The documentation is a little confusing to me. Figure 13 page 15 on the K3EXREF manual shows J4 being used on the KSYN3A if both the KXV144 reference board and the KEXREF options are installed. There is an Errata sheet showing to use J1 on the KSYN3 board. Which one is
 cor
>>  rect to use for my set up J1 or J4?
>> The K3EXREF is working with very accurate frequency on the HF bands with my GPS 10 MHz disciplined oscillator clock  connected. The 2 meter frequency was off when connected to J4. I am not sure if it was corrupt software and doing the reset corrected the issue and am uncertain where to connect to on the KSYN3A board?

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Re: New owner with New K3S kit need help?

Don Wilhelm
Glenn,

The K3EXREF manual is dated later.  The other document does not include
the K3EXREF and would apply only if the K3XREF were not installed.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/14/2018 12:02 PM, WA7SPY wrote:
> Hi Don,
> I understand about the Errata. The confusion is the Errata is for the KXV144 Reference module dated Dec 5 2013 showing placement at J1 on the KSYN3A. The K3EXREF manual is dated August 23, 2016 and shows placement at J4 on the KSYN3A. Hence confusion?
> Glenn Maclean WA7SPY
>
>
>

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WA7SPY
I plugged the REF IN TMP cable to J4 on the Main KSYN3 board per the diagram on page 15 of the K3EXREF installation and operations manual. The 2 meter frequency is off according to the K3S display and verified being not centered with my P3. If I plug the REF IN TMP cable into J1 on the Main KSYN3 board the 2 meter frequency is centered and accurate also verified with my P3. I used a local repeater and tried simplex with my Yeasu FT - 60 and the two meter displayed on the K3S is off center with distorted audio if I plug the TMP cable into J4. If I plug into J1 audio sounds great and the K3S displayed frequency is centered with my P3. So I assume J1 is the proper connection? I have an email into tech support about this.

Glenn Maclean WA7SPY



> On Jul 14, 2018, at 12:00 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Glenn,
>
> The K3EXREF manual is dated later.  The other document does not include the K3EXREF and would apply only if the K3XREF were not installed.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>> On 7/14/2018 12:02 PM, WA7SPY wrote:
>> Hi Don,
>> I understand about the Errata. The confusion is the Errata is for the KXV144 Reference module dated Dec 5 2013 showing placement at J1 on the KSYN3A. The K3EXREF manual is dated August 23, 2016 and shows placement at J4 on the KSYN3A. Hence confusion?
>> Glenn Maclean WA7SPY
>>
>>
>>
>

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