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Jack Brabham

New product request

An affordable direct sampling SDR RX from Elecraft would be well
received, at least in this QTH. I'm thinking of something along the
lines of the Afedri SDR but with front end filters and better dynamic range.

73 Jack KZ5A
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Thomas Taylor-2

Re: New product request

On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:02:58 -0600
Jack Brabham <[hidden email]> wrote:

> An affordable direct sampling SDR RX from Elecraft would be well
> received, at least in this QTH. I'm thinking of something along the
> lines of the Afedri SDR but with front end filters and better dynamic range.
>
> 73 Jack KZ5A
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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: New product request

Why does the KX3 not meet that request?
It is a direct to baseband SDR transceiver.
Yes, it contains its own "computer" in the box, but that does not make
it any less of an SDR receiver.
If you are looking for a panadapter display, connect a soundcard to the
RX I/Q output and you will have it.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/25/2014 1:18 AM, Thomas Taylor wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:02:58 -0600
> Jack Brabham <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> An affordable direct sampling SDR RX from Elecraft would be well
>> received, at least in this QTH. I'm thinking of something along the
>> lines of the Afedri SDR but with front end filters and better dynamic range.
>>
>> 73 Jack KZ5A
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Jack Brabham

Re: New product request

Don,

Go out on the net and research the words "affordable" and "SDR" and you
can then probably answer your own question.

But to save you some time;

A SDR RX does not include a transmitter.

A SDR RX does not need a front panel or any physical controls, just a
USB or Ethernet port, an antenna connector, and maybe a power connector.

The better ones like the mentioned $250 Afedri are not limited to 192kc
bandwidth. Then there is the $200 Fun Cube Pro that covers 160M to 1296.

The KX3, which is a super fine portable transceiver, would be a waste of
money for someone basically looking for a SDR RX

73 Jack KZ5A
K3 #4165

On 2/25/2014 6:32 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> Why does the KX3 not meet that request?
> It is a direct to baseband SDR transceiver.
> Yes, it contains its own "computer" in the box, but that does not make
> it any less of an SDR receiver.
> If you are looking for a panadapter display, connect a soundcard to
> the RX I/Q output and you will have it.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 2/25/2014 1:18 AM, Thomas Taylor wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:02:58 -0600
>> Jack Brabham <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> An affordable direct sampling SDR RX from Elecraft would be well
>>> received, at least in this QTH. I'm thinking of something along the
>>> lines of the Afedri SDR but with front end filters and better
>>> dynamic range.
>>>
>>> 73 Jack KZ5A
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>>
>> Tom kg7cfc
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Phil Hystad-3

Re: New product request

I think Don was spot on with his answer. I think the KX3 is very affordable and if I were looking for just an RX SDR I would give serious consideration to the KX3 -- No, I take that back, I would probably buy only a KX3 and the reason is that the last thing I want to haul around with my receiver is some computer just to listen to the radio. My K3 is the stay at home radio, the KX3 is highly portable and goes on trips with me (but, the computer stays home -- OK, sometimes I do take my Macbook Pro along with me but not to use with the radio).

The KX3 is a great portable rig, it does not need a computer to fashion its U/I with front panel simulations and functions.

I agree that there is a market for the SDR that uses a computer for its primary interface but I hope that Elecraft doesn't waste their time in that arena since the KX3 is a great radio and any other SDR (RX only or whatever) that needs a computer is a giant step backwards.

So, I vote for Elecraft NOT to produce any radio that requires a computer to operate (other than the firmware utility programs).

73, phil, K7PEH

On Feb 25, 2014, at 1:34 PM, Jack Brabham <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Don,
>
> Go out on the net and research the words "affordable" and "SDR" and you can then probably answer your own question.
>
> But to save you some time;
>
> A SDR RX does not include a transmitter.
>
> A SDR RX does not need a front panel or any physical controls, just a USB or Ethernet port, an antenna connector, and maybe a power connector.
>
> The better ones like the mentioned $250 Afedri are not limited to 192kc bandwidth. Then there is the $200 Fun Cube Pro that covers 160M to 1296.
>
> The KX3, which is a super fine portable transceiver, would be a waste of money for someone basically looking for a SDR RX
>
> 73 Jack KZ5A
> K3 #4165
>
>
> On 2/25/2014 6:32 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> Why does the KX3 not meet that request?
>> It is a direct to baseband SDR transceiver.
>> Yes, it contains its own "computer" in the box, but that does not make it any less of an SDR receiver.
>> If you are looking for a panadapter display, connect a soundcard to the RX I/Q output and you will have it.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 2/25/2014 1:18 AM, Thomas Taylor wrote:
>>> On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:02:58 -0600
>>> Jack Brabham <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> An affordable direct sampling SDR RX from Elecraft would be well
>>>> received, at least in this QTH. I'm thinking of something along the
>>>> lines of the Afedri SDR but with front end filters and better dynamic range.
>>>>
>>>> 73 Jack KZ5A
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
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>>>
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>>>
>>
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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: New product request

In reply to this post by Jack Brabham

Jack,

OK, now that you have put some numbers on your interpretation of
"affordable", I understand.
To many, the KX3 *is* affordable.

I differ with your interpretation that an SDR does not need a front
panel or physical controls.
It may or may not have those controls and still be an SDR. See the
definition of SDR at Wikipedia. The KX3 is a direct to baseband SDR
transceiver.

Yes, the Funcube is interesting. It fits within your price target, and
I recommend it to you if it will do all that you want. You may want to
compare the KX3 dynamic range and other receiver parameters before
making a final decision. There is a reason the KX3 is rated very close
to the top of the Sherwood ratings.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/25/2014 4:34 PM, Jack Brabham wrote:

> Don,
>
> Go out on the net and research the words "affordable" and "SDR" and
> you can then probably answer your own question.
>
> But to save you some time;
>
> A SDR RX does not include a transmitter.
>
> A SDR RX does not need a front panel or any physical controls, just a
> USB or Ethernet port, an antenna connector, and maybe a power connector.
>
> The better ones like the mentioned $250 Afedri are not limited to
> 192kc bandwidth. Then there is the $200 Fun Cube Pro that covers 160M
> to 1296.
>
> The KX3, which is a super fine portable transceiver, would be a waste
> of money for someone basically looking for a SDR RX
>
> 73 Jack KZ5A
> K3 #4165
>
>
> On 2/25/2014 6:32 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> Why does the KX3 not meet that request?
>> It is a direct to baseband SDR transceiver.
>> Yes, it contains its own "computer" in the box, but that does not
>> make it any less of an SDR receiver.
>> If you are looking for a panadapter display, connect a soundcard to
>> the RX I/Q output and you will have it.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 2/25/2014 1:18 AM, Thomas Taylor wrote:
>>> On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:02:58 -0600
>>> Jack Brabham <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> An affordable direct sampling SDR RX from Elecraft would be well
>>>> received, at least in this QTH. I'm thinking of something along the
>>>> lines of the Afedri SDR but with front end filters and better
>>>> dynamic range.
>>>>
>>>> 73 Jack KZ5A
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
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>>> +1
>>>
>>> Tom kg7cfc
>>>
>>
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