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W8JH

No Tx audio after WSJT upgrade

I was working FT8 tonight and decided to upgrade from WSJT 2.0 to the latest
2.2.

Now I have no audio on transmit. All other functions work. Decodes, band
change etc.

It puts the K3s in transmit but no audio. I have adjusted the Mic gain
without effect.

I double checked that WSJT has the K3s codec for transmit selected. Windoze
shows it working as well.

I’m totally stumped and wish I hadn’t upgraded now. Any ideas how to proceed
?

73,

-----
73,

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73,

Joe, W8JH

K3s, KPA 500, KAT 500 and KX3 happy user.

Ian, NV4C

Re: No Tx audio after WSJT upgrade

Joe,

Check your WSJT-X settings and ensure you still have the correct sound
card selected and that something didn't change your output target/radio
selection. Also, if you're running Windows, make sure something else
didn't change any of your sound card settings from what you had prior to
upgrading WSJT-X.

73 de,

Ian, NV4C

On 9/11/20 11:23 PM, W8JH wrote:

> I was working FT8 tonight and decided to upgrade from WSJT 2.0 to the latest
> 2.2.
>
> Now I have no audio on transmit. All other functions work. Decodes, band
> change etc.
>
> It puts the K3s in transmit but no audio. I have adjusted the Mic gain
> without effect.
>
> I double checked that WSJT has the K3s codec for transmit selected. Windoze
> shows it working as well.
>
> I’m totally stumped and wish I hadn’t upgraded now. Any ideas how to proceed
> ?
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> -----
> 73,
>
> Joe, W8JH
>
> K3s, KPA 500, KAT 500 and KX3 happy user.
> --
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Rich-4

Re: No Tx audio after WSJT upgrade

WJST-X does a very poor job of loading the current sound devices from
Windows when you run the program. It appears to load whatever existed
in the Sound Panel when it was installed.

So use caution that what you see in the WJST-X audio window vs. what
actually exists in the Windows Sound Panel.

To me it appears to be more of WJST-X issue that a Windows issue

Maybe there is a way to fix this, but I do not know what it is.

Rich

On 9/12/2020 7:20 AM, Ian Kahn, NV4C wrote:

> Joe,
>
> Check your WSJT-X settings and ensure you still have the correct sound
> card selected and that something didn't change your output
> target/radio selection. Also, if you're running Windows, make sure
> something else didn't change any of your sound card settings from what
> you had prior to upgrading WSJT-X.
>
> 73 de,
>
> Ian, NV4C
>
> On 9/11/20 11:23 PM, W8JH wrote:
>> I was working FT8 tonight and decided to upgrade from WSJT 2.0 to the
>> latest
>> 2.2.
>>
>> Now I have no audio on transmit. All other functions work. Decodes, band
>> change etc.
>>
>> It puts the K3s in transmit but no audio. I have adjusted the Mic gain
>> without effect.
>>
>> I double checked that WSJT has the K3s codec for transmit selected.
>> Windoze
>> shows it working as well.
>>
>> I’m totally stumped and wish I hadn’t upgraded now. Any ideas how to
>> proceed
>> ?
>>
>> 73,
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> 73,
>>
>> Joe, W8JH
>>
>> K3s, KPA 500, KAT 500 and KX3 happy user.
>> --
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Neil Zampella

Re: No Tx audio after WSJT upgrade

Actually ... WSJT-X only uses what windows tells it is available.
After Windows updates its been found that Windows will scramble the
audio devices, especially if they are USB devices.

What has been found to work is to RENAME the device you use in the Sound
Control Panel. Bring up the Sound Control Panel, find the USB adapter
normally used for sound input to WSJT-X under Speakers and double click
to open the properties.   On the first tab you can rename it to what you
want to use, such as WSJT-X Sound OUT.   Do the same with the microphone
device and rename to WSJT-X Sound IN.

Click the OK button, and then close the Sound Control Panel.   I'd do a
restart to make sure that Windows has saved that info.   Then open
WSJT-X and select them on the Audio setting tab.

Most of the users who have done this have not see the 'scrambled audio
device' issue again.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 9/12/2020 9:22 AM, Rich wrote:

> WJST-X does a very poor job of loading the current sound devices from
> Windows when you run the program. It appears to load whatever
> existed in the Sound Panel when it was installed.
>
> So use caution that what you see in the WJST-X audio window vs. what
> actually exists in the Windows Sound Panel.
>
> To me it appears to be more of WJST-X issue that a Windows issue
>
> Maybe there is a way to fix this, but I do not know what it is.
>
> Rich
>
> On 9/12/2020 7:20 AM, Ian Kahn, NV4C wrote:
>> Joe,
>>
>> Check your WSJT-X settings and ensure you still have the correct
>> sound card selected and that something didn't change your output
>> target/radio selection. Also, if you're running Windows, make sure
>> something else didn't change any of your sound card settings from
>> what you had prior to upgrading WSJT-X.
>>
>> 73 de,
>>
>> Ian, NV4C
>>
>> On 9/11/20 11:23 PM, W8JH wrote:
>>> I was working FT8 tonight and decided to upgrade from WSJT 2.0 to
>>> the latest
>>> 2.2.
>>>
>>> Now I have no audio on transmit. All other functions work. Decodes,
>>> band
>>> change etc.
>>>
>>> It puts the K3s in transmit but no audio. I have adjusted the Mic gain
>>> without effect.
>>>
>>> I double checked that WSJT has the K3s codec for transmit selected.
>>> Windoze
>>> shows it working as well.
>>>
>>> I’m totally stumped and wish I hadn’t upgraded now. Any ideas how to
>>> proceed
>>> ?
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Joe, W8JH
>>>
>>> K3s, KPA 500, KAT 500 and KX3 happy user.
>>> --
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Gwen Patton

Re: No Tx audio after WSJT upgrade

What version of Windows are you using? Windows 7 notoriously has a massive
problem with WSJT-X, JS8CALL, and some other programs that use similar
routines to poll the sound devices. For YEARS, I couldn't use WSJT-X
normally, because while it would find all of my speakers, it would never
find my currently installed microphones. I had to use a convoluted system
of default devices and Voicemeeter mixer software to get it to work. What
finally solved the problem permanently was when my 9 year old Windows 7
machine died, and I replaced it recently with a brand new machine with
Windows 10.

I'm not sure why that happens, but Windows versions below 10 seem to have a
major issue with enumeration of sound devices.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73,
Gwen, NG3P

On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 7:57 PM Neil Zampella <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Actually ... WSJT-X only uses what windows tells it is available.
> After Windows updates its been found that Windows will scramble the
> audio devices, especially if they are USB devices.
>
> What has been found to work is to RENAME the device you use in the Sound
> Control Panel. Bring up the Sound Control Panel, find the USB adapter
> normally used for sound input to WSJT-X under Speakers and double click
> to open the properties. On the first tab you can rename it to what you
> want to use, such as WSJT-X Sound OUT. Do the same with the microphone
> device and rename to WSJT-X Sound IN.
>
> Click the OK button, and then close the Sound Control Panel. I'd do a
> restart to make sure that Windows has saved that info. Then open
> WSJT-X and select them on the Audio setting tab.
>
> Most of the users who have done this have not see the 'scrambled audio
> device' issue again.
>
> Neil, KN3ILZ
>
> On 9/12/2020 9:22 AM, Rich wrote:
> > WJST-X does a very poor job of loading the current sound devices from
> > Windows when you run the program. It appears to load whatever
> > existed in the Sound Panel when it was installed.
> >
> > So use caution that what you see in the WJST-X audio window vs. what
> > actually exists in the Windows Sound Panel.
> >
> > To me it appears to be more of WJST-X issue that a Windows issue
> >
> > Maybe there is a way to fix this, but I do not know what it is.
> >
> > Rich
> >
> > On 9/12/2020 7:20 AM, Ian Kahn, NV4C wrote:
> >> Joe,
> >>
> >> Check your WSJT-X settings and ensure you still have the correct
> >> sound card selected and that something didn't change your output
> >> target/radio selection. Also, if you're running Windows, make sure
> >> something else didn't change any of your sound card settings from
> >> what you had prior to upgrading WSJT-X.
> >>
> >> 73 de,
> >>
> >> Ian, NV4C
> >>
> >> On 9/11/20 11:23 PM, W8JH wrote:
> >>> I was working FT8 tonight and decided to upgrade from WSJT 2.0 to
> >>> the latest
> >>> 2.2.
> >>>
> >>> Now I have no audio on transmit. All other functions work. Decodes,
> >>> band
> >>> change etc.
> >>>
> >>> It puts the K3s in transmit but no audio. I have adjusted the Mic gain
> >>> without effect.
> >>>
> >>> I double checked that WSJT has the K3s codec for transmit selected.
> >>> Windoze
> >>> shows it working as well.
> >>>
> >>> I’m totally stumped and wish I hadn’t upgraded now. Any ideas how to
> >>> proceed
> >>> ?
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----
> >>> 73,
> >>>
> >>> Joe, W8JH
> >>>
> >>> K3s, KPA 500, KAT 500 and KX3 happy user.
> >>> --
> >>> Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/
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Rich-4

Re: No Tx audio after WSJT upgrade

In reply to this post by Neil Zampella

Nope. I just changed the name of the codec for my 7300 from IC7300
Audio In to IC7300a Audio In. I rebooted Windows and WJST-X stills
thinks it is IC7300 Audio In. This is somewhat of a mute point as it is
still the same codec and WJST-X still works fine. My point is only
that WJST-X is not refreshing from the sound panel after an install.

Rich

On 9/12/2020 19:57 PM, Neil Zampella wrote:

> Actually ... WSJT-X only uses what windows tells it is available.
> After Windows updates its been found that Windows will scramble the
> audio devices, especially if they are USB devices.
>
> What has been found to work is to RENAME the device you use in the Sound
> Control Panel. Bring up the Sound Control Panel, find the USB adapter
> normally used for sound input to WSJT-X under Speakers and double click
> to open the properties.   On the first tab you can rename it to what you
> want to use, such as WSJT-X Sound OUT.   Do the same with the microphone
> device and rename to WSJT-X Sound IN.
>
> Click the OK button, and then close the Sound Control Panel.   I'd do a
> restart to make sure that Windows has saved that info.   Then open
> WSJT-X and select them on the Audio setting tab.
>
> Most of the users who have done this have not see the 'scrambled audio
> device' issue again.
>
> Neil, KN3ILZ
>
> On 9/12/2020 9:22 AM, Rich wrote:
>> WJST-X does a very poor job of loading the current sound devices from
>> Windows when you run the program.   It appears to load whatever
>> existed in the Sound Panel when it was installed.
>>
>> So use caution that what you see in the WJST-X audio window vs. what
>> actually exists in the Windows Sound Panel.
>>
>> To me it appears to be more of WJST-X issue that a Windows issue
>>
>> Maybe there is a way to fix this, but I do not know what it is.
>>
>> Rich
>>
>> On 9/12/2020 7:20 AM, Ian Kahn, NV4C wrote:
>>> Joe,
>>>
>>> Check your WSJT-X settings and ensure you still have the correct
>>> sound card selected and that something didn't change your output
>>> target/radio selection. Also, if you're running Windows, make sure
>>> something else didn't change any of your sound card settings from
>>> what you had prior to upgrading WSJT-X.
>>>
>>> 73 de,
>>>
>>> Ian, NV4C
>>>
>>> On 9/11/20 11:23 PM, W8JH wrote:
>>>> I was working FT8 tonight and decided to upgrade from WSJT 2.0 to
>>>> the latest
>>>> 2.2.
>>>>
>>>> Now I have no audio on transmit. All other functions work. Decodes,
>>>> band
>>>> change etc.
>>>>
>>>> It puts the K3s in transmit but no audio. I have adjusted the Mic gain
>>>> without effect.
>>>>
>>>> I double checked that WSJT has the K3s codec for transmit selected.
>>>> Windoze
>>>> shows it working as well.
>>>>
>>>> I’m totally stumped and wish I hadn’t upgraded now. Any ideas how to
>>>> proceed
>>>> ?
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>> Joe, W8JH
>>>>
>>>> K3s, KPA 500, KAT 500 and KX3 happy user.
>>>> --
>>>> Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/
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Josh Fiden

Re: No Tx audio after WSJT upgrade

In reply to this post by Gwen Patton

Interesting. I’ve been using WSJT, then WSJT-X with Win 7 for several years. First with the built-in sound device and then an external USB Tascam US-200 interface (to a K3, not S). Selected the correct audio devices from WSJT-X setup and it just worked. Never knew there were issues. Ignorance is bliss, I suppose!

73
Josh W6XU

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> On Sep 12, 2020, at 5:20 PM, Gwen Patton <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> What version of Windows are you using? Windows 7 notoriously has a massive
> problem with WSJT-X, JS8CALL, and some other programs that use similar
> routines to poll the sound devices. For YEARS, I couldn't use WSJT-X
> normally, because while it would find all of my speakers, it would never
> find my currently installed microphones. I had to use a convoluted system
> of default devices and Voicemeeter mixer software to get it to work. What
> finally solved the problem permanently was when my 9 year old Windows 7
> machine died, and I replaced it recently with a brand new machine with
> Windows 10.
>

Rich-4

Re: No Tx audio after WSJT upgrade

I guess to simplify it, It does pick the correct codec, it does not
recognize that you changed the name of the codec.

And I think this is probably getting way off topic for the Elecraft list
and I apologize

Rich

On 9/12/2020 21:08 PM, Josh Fiden wrote:

> Interesting. I’ve been using WSJT, then WSJT-X with Win 7 for several years. First with the built-in sound device and then an external USB Tascam US-200 interface (to a K3, not S). Selected the correct audio devices from WSJT-X setup and it just worked. Never knew there were issues. Ignorance is bliss, I suppose!
>
> 73
> Josh W6XU
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Sep 12, 2020, at 5:20 PM, Gwen Patton <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> What version of Windows are you using? Windows 7 notoriously has a massive
>> problem with WSJT-X, JS8CALL, and some other programs that use similar
>> routines to poll the sound devices. For YEARS, I couldn't use WSJT-X
>> normally, because while it would find all of my speakers, it would never
>> find my currently installed microphones. I had to use a convoluted system
>> of default devices and Voicemeeter mixer software to get it to work. What
>> finally solved the problem permanently was when my 9 year old Windows 7
>> machine died, and I replaced it recently with a brand new machine with
>> Windows 10.
>>
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Bob Wilson, N6TV

Re: No Tx audio after WSJT upgrade

In reply to this post by W8JH

Most likely causes of no TX Audio in a K3S with WSJT-X:

1. Any connector or cable inserted into the K3S 3.5mm LINE IN jack will
override (and completely MUTE) the USB Audio CODEC input
2. USB Audio CODEC "Speakers" level got reset to 0 by Windows
3. MAIN:MIC SEL for DATA mode is not set to LINE (so MIC GAIN knob
adjust MIC level instead of LINE IN level)
4. Wrong sound card selected in WJST-X
5. MON level set too low to hear your transmit tones

73,
Bob, N6TV

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 8:23 PM W8JH <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I was working FT8 tonight and decided to upgrade from WSJT 2.0 to the
> latest
> 2.2.
>
> Now I have no audio on transmit. All other functions work. Decodes, band
> change etc.
>
> It puts the K3s in transmit but no audio. I have adjusted the Mic gain
> without effect.
>
> I double checked that WSJT has the K3s codec for transmit selected.
> Windoze
> shows it working as well.
>
> I’m totally stumped and wish I hadn’t upgraded now. Any ideas how to
> proceed
> ?
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> -----
> 73,
>
> Joe, W8JH
>
> K3s, KPA 500, KAT 500 and KX3 happy user.
> --
> Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/
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