No thanks to SSTV on P3, let's get back on track.

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No thanks to SSTV on P3, let's get back on track.

ve3dvy
add me into the per mode group.    and auto reference level would be cool

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Re: No thanks to SSTV on P3, let's get back on track.

Grant Youngman
In a lot of ways it’s a no-win situation.

Data guys want mo’ data stuff and changes to existing features.  Moon bounce weak signal guys want something else.  Something doesn’t work right for one mode used by a few.  CW guys will want something else.  A few don’t like the size of the cabinet.  And then there’s the location of the notch.  Etc.  Everyone seems to have a personal want list depending on their personal interest and real or perceived faults in the radio.

Bill (if your name is Bill, don’t take it personally, please)  wants something done one way, Joe wants it done some other way, and John doesn’t like either one.  No matter what is done, someone will be unhappy or find yet one more “inexcusable” design choice or engineering “error” and find a few other people on the list who agree with him, as we split into armed camps over some issue or other that will prevent the apparently unforgivable requirement  to actually turn a knob or make a conscious decision to change a parameter.

Why would SSTV decode on the P3 be “off track”?  It would be an interesting feature, in any case.  If someone suggests something, 20 people chime in with “that’s nonsense’, followed immediately with their own “essentials” or gripe list which likely at least in part is just as much nonsense to others.  Design by committee doesn’t always yield a very good design.

One more curmudgeonly opinion, from someone who is simply happy that the whole thing works and is blessed with appendages expressly designed to manipulate buttons and knobs  … ;)

Grant NQ5T


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> add me into the per mode group.    and auto reference level would be cool
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Re: No thanks to SSTV on P3, let's get back on track.

Jim Brown-10
On Mon,8/18/2014 11:08 AM, GRANT YOUNGMAN wrote:
> Design by committee doesn’t always yield a very good design.

Design without considering how a product will be used rarely produces a
useful product. From where I sit, Wayne and Eric have been quite good at
studying the needs of their customer base, engaging the BS filter
between their ears, and incorporating as many features as possible that
1) make more users happy without making others unhappy; 2) are useful to
enough users to justify the development costs. This thread is directly
targeted both. Programming time for some of these features is not cheap,
and Elecraft is not a big company.

73, Jim K9YC


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Re: No thanks to SSTV on P3, let's get back on track.

Grant Youngman

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> Design without considering how a product will be used rarely produces a useful product. From where I sit, Wayne and Eric have been quite good at studying the needs of their customer base, engaging the BS filter between their ears, and incorporating as many features as possible

Certainly correct …

Grant NQ5T
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Re: No thanks to SSTV on P3, let's get back on track.

Raymond Sills
And it appears to be the case that new features have been added to the  
K3, P3, and KX3 (and likely PX3) =without= anyone having to sacrifice  
and existing feature... i.e. "you can have voice messages, but not CW  
messages or ..., etc."  It seems to me the Elecraft design team has  
been able to make efficient use of existing firmware code space, yet  
still able to add new things.  Sooner or later, they are going to run  
out of space to hold the code... and/or supporting data.

73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211


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>> Design without considering how a product will be used rarely  
>> produces a useful product. From where I sit, Wayne and Eric have  
>> been quite good at studying the needs of their customer base,  
>> engaging the BS filter between their ears, and incorporating as  
>> many features as possible
>
> Certainly correct …
>
> Grant NQ5T
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