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Noise on received audio

Dan Schieler
I have K2 s/n 4426 and have been using it for over 1 yr.  I built it
orginally as the qrp radio with all options except the KIO2.  I have
also built the K2/100 options and use this only at the home qth and take
the battery qrp configuration on travel.  I have recently started
noticing distorted or "buzzing" riding on type of the audio.  This is
most audible on CW with strong signals, but I can also her it on SSB
voice signals as well.  It almost sounds like the person I'm listening
to has rf on THEIR signal, though I know this is not the case as EVERY
signal has this noise.  I hear it most pronounced when using the 100W
amp lid, but I can also hear it when using the qrp lid.  Here is perhaps
a clue to the source....when I lift up the front of the lid on either
the 100W lid or qrp lid about 2" high, the noise goes away completely.
In fact, if I tilt up the front of the lid, and stick the handle of my
screwdriver underneath it to hold it up, the audio is perfect...Could
something on the motherboard of the K2 be generating just enough noise
to get picked up by the audio sections/speaker wires in the lids of my
rig?  
 
Rig has SSB, DSP options installed.
 
The noise comes through whether I'm using an external speaker or
headphones, it doesn't matter.   I do not have a scope to do any
snooping, but any ideas that could help me eliminate this noise thru
trial and error would be appreciated.  The radio is still usable, but
this is somewhat irritating and frustrating...
 
Thx
73
K5GUS
 
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Re: Noise on received audio

Vic K2VCO
Dan Schieler wrote:

> I have recently started
> noticing distorted or "buzzing" riding on type of the audio.  This is
> most audible on CW with strong signals, but I can also her it on SSB
> voice signals as well.  <snip>
>  I hear it most pronounced when using the 100W
> amp lid, but I can also hear it when using the qrp lid.

This could be a long shot, but maybe it's the old 'magnetic field
pickup' problem.  When I first added the KPA100 to my K2, I noticed that
the sensitivity to AC magnetic fields increased.  Who knows why!

I had originally had a problem from my antenna rotor control box with
the QRP K2, so I moved it.  When I got the 100w lid, I had to move it again.

So, how far is your K2 from a linear power supply, rotor control, or
anything with a transformer or motor in it?  Elecraft has a mod (named
after me, K2VCOSHLDKT) that will greatly reduce sensitivity to such
fields, but if you haven't installed this mod then you should keep all
such magnetic sources at least 18" away from the K2.

--
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco
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Re: Noise on received audio

Dan Schieler
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Vic, thanks!  You nailed it.  I recently moved the K2 while 'tidying up' the cables behind the desk and moved the radio on a shelf just above my Alino DM340V linear supply.....moved the rig back to its original spot and the noise was gone....just in time for an evening with the ww cw contest!  Fyi, the k2 is now side by side with an Alinco switching supply but it doesn't seem to mind....the other supply has a big honkin tfrmer in it....
Thx again!
K5gus...
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Dan Schieler wrote:
 
> I have recently started
> noticing distorted or "buzzing" riding on type of the audio.  This is
> most audible on CW with strong signals, but I can also her it on SSB
> voice signals as well.  <snip>
>  I hear it most pronounced when using the 100W
> amp lid, but I can also hear it when using the qrp lid.  
 
This could be a long shot, but maybe it's the old 'magnetic field  
pickup' problem.  When I first added the KPA100 to my K2, I noticed that  
the sensitivity to AC magnetic fields increased.  Who knows why!
 
I had originally had a problem from my antenna rotor control box with  
the QRP K2, so I moved it.  When I got the 100w lid, I had to move it again.
 
So, how far is your K2 from a linear power supply, rotor control, or  
anything with a transformer or motor in it?  Elecraft has a mod (named  
after me, K2VCOSHLDKT) that will greatly reduce sensitivity to such  
fields, but if you haven't installed this mod then you should keep all  
such magnetic sources at least 18" away from the K2.
 
--  
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco 
 

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Re: Noise on received audio

Dan Schieler
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oh yeah....and I need to get that mod done that you mentioned....anyone know if its standard now or if it would have been part of sn 4426?

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Dan Schieler wrote:
 
> I have recently started
> noticing distorted or "buzzing" riding on type of the audio.  This is
> most audible on CW with strong signals, but I can also her it on SSB
> voice signals as well.  <snip>
>  I hear it most pronounced when using the 100W
> amp lid, but I can also hear it when using the qrp lid.  
 
This could be a long shot, but maybe it's the old 'magnetic field  
pickup' problem.  When I first added the KPA100 to my K2, I noticed that  
the sensitivity to AC magnetic fields increased.  Who knows why!
 
I had originally had a problem from my antenna rotor control box with  
the QRP K2, so I moved it.  When I got the 100w lid, I had to move it again.
 
So, how far is your K2 from a linear power supply, rotor control, or  
anything with a transformer or motor in it?  Elecraft has a mod (named  
after me, K2VCOSHLDKT) that will greatly reduce sensitivity to such  
fields, but if you haven't installed this mod then you should keep all  
such magnetic sources at least 18" away from the K2.
 
--  
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco 
 

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Re: Noise on received audio

KK7P
> oh yeah....and I need to get that mod done that you mentioned....anyone know if its standard now or if it would have been part of sn 4426?

It isn't and it wasn't :-)

73,

Lyle KK7P

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