Norcal Sierra - Wilderness Radio Sierra - Dans Small Parts

[Andy Cunningham-2]

Guys'..

Let's see if we can sort the "mess in my head" ...

Thinkin of building the "Sierra" (from that famous QRP'er and constructor we
all know and love..) later on in the year..

I have (if I can find it) a manual for "..a Sierra.." transceiver, I "think"
it's the Norcal version... but not sure..

What I need to get straight in my tiny mind is-:



1.. Are the "Norcal Sierra" and the "Wilderness Radio Sierra" the SAME BEAST
in ALL WAYS or SOME WAYS..?

2.. Are they a "totally different beast"...?

3.. Should I order the boards from "Dans Small Parts" and source the
parts..?

4.. "if" I were to order the parts from Dans, would I eventually end up with
virtually the same radio as the "Norcal
     Sierra" version of the radio or are there differences...?

5.. Could I use the manual for constructing a "Dans" version of the radio,
that I need to still find here...?



The "Wilderness Sierra" is usually the way I would go on things like this,
but like most of us, there are a LOT of projects
getting done here in the shack at the moment, so money is an issue for the
initial outlay.. Sourceing the parts (if the boards
from Dan's would make me end up with virtually the same radio as the
Wilderness Sierra version) would DEFINATLEY be the way I
would go this time... After all sourcing parts is half the fun ..right..!?

In the end if I "needed" for some reason, technically, or from the point of
a constructor, to order the "complete kit" from
Wilderness Radio instead, this would be a big financial outlay for me at
this point so would have to wait..

I hear y'all say "there is always the ARRL version" with templates.. Dare I
ask... is this yet a "3rd version" of a "different
Beast"... ??  All of the above questions I suppose will bring many varied
answers, but I would appreciate someone who can
explain this to me "like a kid in diapers"..

Can you guys please help me resolve this problem that I've admittedly had
for some time now.. You guys have an uncanny way
of solving most problems I have had over the years so I have every faith in
y'all..

Hope I've explained my predicament properly..

Here Goes..
GO..!
       
[hidden email]
72's
Andy
GM0NWI

K2 "Fully Loaded" QRP S/n 01432
K2 "Fully Loaded" QRO S/n 05469
                   

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[Dave G3VGR-3]

Why don't you just build a K1 instead?
I have a Sierra here with all 9 band modules. It is a fine rig, although
it needed various add-ons (DL-QRP-PA, KC2 Keyer/Counter) to make it nice
to use.
If I was starting again, I would get a K1
73, Dave G3VGR
K2 #4783

Andy - GM0NWI wrote:

> Guys'..
>
> Let's see if we can sort the "mess in my head" ...
>
> Thinkin of building the "Sierra" (from that famous QRP'er and constructor we
> all know and love..) later on in the year..
>
> I have (if I can find it) a manual for "..a Sierra.." transceiver, I "think"
> it's the Norcal version... but not sure..
>
> What I need to get straight in my tiny mind is-:
>
>
>
> 1.. Are the "Norcal Sierra" and the "Wilderness Radio Sierra" the SAME BEAST
> in ALL WAYS or SOME WAYS..?
>
> 2.. Are they a "totally different beast"...?
>
> 3.. Should I order the boards from "Dans Small Parts" and source the
> parts..?
>
> 4.. "if" I were to order the parts from Dans, would I eventually end up with
> virtually the same radio as the "Norcal
>      Sierra" version of the radio or are there differences...?
>
> 5.. Could I use the manual for constructing a "Dans" version of the radio,
> that I need to still find here...?
>
>
>
> The "Wilderness Sierra" is usually the way I would go on things like this,
> but like most of us, there are a LOT of projects
> getting done here in the shack at the moment, so money is an issue for the
> initial outlay.. Sourceing the parts (if the boards
> from Dan's would make me end up with virtually the same radio as the
> Wilderness Sierra version) would DEFINATLEY be the way I
> would go this time... After all sourcing parts is half the fun ..right..!?
>
> In the end if I "needed" for some reason, technically, or from the point of
> a constructor, to order the "complete kit" from
> Wilderness Radio instead, this would be a big financial outlay for me at
> this point so would have to wait..
>
> I hear y'all say "there is always the ARRL version" with templates.. Dare I
> ask... is this yet a "3rd version" of a "different
> Beast"... ??  All of the above questions I suppose will bring many varied
> answers, but I would appreciate someone who can
> explain this to me "like a kid in diapers"..
>
> Can you guys please help me resolve this problem that I've admittedly had
> for some time now.. You guys have an uncanny way
> of solving most problems I have had over the years so I have every faith in
> y'all..
>
> Hope I've explained my predicament properly..
>
> Here Goes..
> GO..!
>
> [hidden email]
> 72's
> Andy
> GM0NWI
>
> K2 "Fully Loaded" QRP S/n 01432
> K2 "Fully Loaded" QRO S/n 05469
>                    
>

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[Rick Dettinger-2]

> Why don't you just build a K1 instead?
> I have a Sierra here with all 9 band modules. It is a fine rig, although
> it needed various add-ons (DL-QRP-PA, KC2 Keyer/Counter) to make it nice
> to use.
> If I was starting again, I would get a K1
> 73, Dave G3VGR
> K2 #4783
===========================================

I have built both the K1 and Sierra kits.  Advantages of Sierra are all 9
bands and ease of operation.  No manual needed for this non digital radio.
These are the radios I prefer to operate.  No thinking necessary.  And you
ger a real RF gain control.  It  is actually an RF cut control but it does
control the imput to the IF filter, unlike most modern radios.  I think all
other advantages go to the K1.  Over twice the power.  Many Sierra owners do
mods to increase the power, with more or less sucess.  Increasing the
voltage to max is the easiest.  The K1 has optional internal tuner.  The
tuning rate is far better.  At least twice as good.  And tuning is smoother.
And with my kits, the K1 has been more stable.  The conversion schemes for
both are similar so I don't think there should be much preformance
difference.  If you build the Sierra, there are over 80 toroids to wind if
all bands are included.   If the Sierra had the K1 VFO and 5 watts out, I
probably would prefer it to the K1, for home use, but it doesn't so I sold
mine and kept the K1.
Rick Dettinger
K7MW

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