Norm1 and Norm2 how to switch between them???

[Ron Midwin-3]

so here I was, playing on my K3, S/N 1997 yesterday, enjoying both my nex
Hexbeam (K4KIO) and new call, KB6G (formerly AE6RH).

things were getting too quiet, so I decided to see what kind of mischief I
could get into, and this usually involved re-reading the multitude of K3
manuals; including the Nifty Manual that I find very useful for quickly
getting to a topic.

when I first set up my K3 several years ago, I played with most of the
settings, but never really paid much attention to the Norm1 and Norm2
controls.  I noticed in the manual(s) that if I set the Norm1 for my 2.7
KHz filter the K3 came with, and set Norm2 for the 2.1 KHz SSB filter I
added, then it looked like I could quickly switch between them and go back
and forth to compare them.

so I read the "instructions" on how to save these settings, and as much as
I tried everything, I could not save them both so that I can swap settings.

so my question to the group is; has anyone else run into this and can
someone who has broken the code clue me in?

Just in case you need to know, I have a single receiver K3 with 400 Hz and
6.0 KHz filters also.

73

de KB6G


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[N5GE]

To switch between NORM and NORM/II, tap Push the end of the button
above their labels.

73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member

On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 08:35:14 -0800, Ron Midwin
<[hidden email]> wrote:

[snip]

>so I read the "instructions" on how to save these settings, and as much as
>I tried everything, I could not save them both so that I can swap settings.
>
>so my question to the group is; has anyone else run into this and can
>someone who has broken the code clue me in?
>
>Just in case you need to know, I have a single receiver K3 with 400 Hz and
>6.0 KHz filters also.
>
>73
>
>de KB6G

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[M0XDF]

Push, and hold for at least 2 seconds (until VFOB indicates '<-- SAV -->') the SHIFT/LO/NORM knob and then twist anti-clockwise for NORM1 and clockwise for NORM2.

To recall then just push and twist.
73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108)
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to be doing at that moment. -Robert Benchley

On 11 Feb 2013, at 16:35, Ron Midwin wrote:

> so here I was, playing on my K3, S/N 1997 yesterday, enjoying both my nex
> Hexbeam (K4KIO) and new call, KB6G (formerly AE6RH).
>
> things were getting too quiet, so I decided to see what kind of mischief I
> could get into, and this usually involved re-reading the multitude of K3
> manuals; including the Nifty Manual that I find very useful for quickly
> getting to a topic.
>
> when I first set up my K3 several years ago, I played with most of the
> settings, but never really paid much attention to the Norm1 and Norm2
> controls.  I noticed in the manual(s) that if I set the Norm1 for my 2.7
> KHz filter the K3 came with, and set Norm2 for the 2.1 KHz SSB filter I
> added, then it looked like I could quickly switch between them and go back
> and forth to compare them.
>
> so I read the "instructions" on how to save these settings, and as much as
> I tried everything, I could not save them both so that I can swap settings.
>
> so my question to the group is; has anyone else run into this and can
> someone who has broken the code clue me in?
>
> Just in case you need to know, I have a single receiver K3 with 400 Hz and
> 6.0 KHz filters also.

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[N5GE]

Correction!  I should have said knob instead of button.
73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member

On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 10:51:45 -0600, Tom H Childers <[hidden email]>
wrote:

>To switch between NORM and NORM/II, tap Push the end of the button
>above their labels.
>
>73,
>Tom
>Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
>ARRL Lifetime Member
>QCWA Lifetime Member
>

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[N5GE]

I'm in a fog here this morning.  I should have said:

To switch between NORM and NORM/II, Push and HOLD the end of the
KNOBS above their labels.

On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 10:51:45 -0600, Tom H Childers <[hidden email]>
wrote:

>To switch between NORM and NORM/II, tap Push the end of the button
>above their labels.
>
>73,
>Tom
>Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
>ARRL Lifetime Member
>QCWA Lifetime Member
>
>On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 08:35:14 -0800, Ron Midwin
><[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>[snip]
>>so I read the "instructions" on how to save these settings, and as much as
>>I tried everything, I could not save them both so that I can swap settings.
>>
>>so my question to the group is; has anyone else run into this and can
>>someone who has broken the code clue me in?
>>
>>Just in case you need to know, I have a single receiver K3 with 400 Hz and
>>6.0 KHz filters also.
>>
>>73
>>
>>de KB6G

73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member

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[k6dgw]

"The K3 remembers the DSP and roofing filter settings for each VFO and
for each mode except FM.  These are called presets I and II and the
filter settings saved in these presets are updated each time you change
them."

Cady, Fred KE7X
"The Elecraft K3 - Design, Configuration, and Operation"
[All you ever wanted to know but were afraid to ask!]
Pg 49, "Filter Presets" [Ver. 1.0]

There is no overt SAVE function for these parameters, they are
automatically saved.  You toggle between I and II by HOLDING the
HI/WIDTH knob until the I/II indicator changes.  HOLDING it again will
toggle back.

To save your particular settings to a preset, set I/II [your choice] by
HOLDING the knob, and set the radio up as you wish.  They're saved.  If
you toggle to the other preset and do other things, the configuration
will re-appear the next time you toggle to back the first preset.

The NORM function [HOLDING the LO/SHIFT knob] will "normalize" the DSP
and roofing filter settings depending on mode.  There are two NORM's,
creatively named NORM 1 and NORM 2.  Choose your desired DSP BW for CW
and SSB.  HOLD NORM until until <- SAV -> appears.  Without releasing
the knob, rotate it counter-clockwise just a little to save the settings
to NORM 1, clockwise to save to NORM 2.

To get NORM 1 or NORM 2 back, HOLD NORM until <- NOR -> appears, and
without releasing the knob, rotate it slightly counter-clockwise [NORM
1] or clockwise [NORM 2].  When you have NORMalized the radio, two
little "wings" will appear at the ends of the DSP display slanting
downward to indicate that you're set up in one of your 2 normalized
settings.  They will go away as soon as you change DSP settings.

Hope this helps the original questioner.  If you don't have Fred's book,
don't wait, get it.  I've never found much use for the presets and NORM,
I suspect I'm not real creative with my radio. :-)

INT QKN  "How many knobs does your radio have?"
QKN 35  "My radio has 35 knobs."

INT QKK  "How many of those do you know how to use?"
QKK 5  "I know how to use five of them."

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013
- www.cqp.org

On 2/11/2013 9:02 AM, Tom H Childers wrote:
> I'm in a fog here this morning.  I should have said:
>
> To switch between NORM and NORM/II, Push and HOLD the end of the
> KNOBS above their labels.


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