OT: 2m beam orientation

[Jon Kåre Hellan]

But of you do use the cloud, the NSA keeps a backup for you. Very useful.

Jon LA4RT

Den 23. juni 2013 kl. 05:47 skrev Phil Kane <[hidden email]>:

> On 6/22/2013 9:28 AM, Doug Person wrote:
>
>> Not quite.  Dumb terminals were dumb. Rich web applications place a lot
>> of the user interface rendering onto the client.  Not at all like dumb
>> terminals.  The "Cloud" is a bit more complex than what an old mainframe
>> did.  And we are only scratching the surface.  Better to think of cloud
>> computing as distributed computing.  Properly done, its hard to tell
>> where the client stops and the server begins.
>
> Our servers are our property and under our control.  The cloud is under
> who-knows-whose control who-knows-where.  We made a conscious decision
> that we will not put our sensitive client or company data - some
> classified - on such a system.
>
> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
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[Richard Fjeld]

When I built my tower computer about a decade ago, I phoned in the order to one of the familiar parts places.  To verify my credit card info, the guy started asking me questions about my personal property, etc.  He knew the type of vehicle, year, even the color of it, as well as other information about me. That woke me up.

Dick, n0ce

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Jeff Herr
  To: [hidden email] ; [hidden email]
  Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 11:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: 2m beam orientation


  you are doing it every day.
  Verisign, the banks, they ARE the "cloud".
  They have all your info .....now.



  -----Original Message-----
  From: [hidden email]
  [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm
  Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 9:11 PM
  To: [hidden email]
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: 2m beam orientation

  Phil,

  IMHO, that is a wise decision.  While "the cloud" is supposed to be secure,
  I have my doubts.  The only thing I would consider committing to the cloud
  would possibly be encrypted off-site backup data, but for now, my RAID file
  server serves that purpose quite nicely, although it does not offer me
  off-site backup storage in case of a major disaster.  I can write my backup
  data periodically to DVDs and keep them at a different location should I
  deem that necessary.  I do not have anything that is classified, so am most
  concerned about data recovery in case a disaster totally destroys the drives
  on my file server.

  73,
  Don W3FPR

  On 6/22/2013 11:47 PM, Phil Kane wrote:
  > Our servers are our property and under our control. The cloud is under
  > who-knows-whose control who-knows-where. We made a conscious decision
  > that we will not put our sensitive client or company data - some
  > classified - on such a system. 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

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[Hop]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Kåre Hellan" <[hidden email]>
To: "Phil Kane" <[hidden email]>
Cc: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: 2m beam orientation


> But of you do use the cloud, the NSA keeps a backup for you. Very useful.
>
> Jon LA4RT
>
> Den 23. juni 2013 kl. 05:47 skrev Phil Kane <[hidden email]>:
>

Very useful for the NSA, not so useful for you. The NSA has massive
write-only memory. Bits go in, but they do not come back out.

For secure backups use two removable terabyte drives that you rotate to an
off-site, preferably secret, storage facility at whatever interval is
comfortable for you.

73
Hop - AC8NS

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[M0XDF]

Look at Backblaze for secure off-site backup - http://www.backblaze.com
This allows you to create an encryption phrase that only you know (they do not know or store it) so what goes over the web and into their servers is encrypted and secure.
73 de David, M0XDF (43 yrs in IT, 18 working for a bank and very careful about my data).
--
To every man is given the key to the gates of heaven; the same key opens the gates of hell. -Proverb




On 25 Jun 2013, at 04:25, Hop - AC8NS wrote:

>
> For secure backups use two removable terabyte drives that you rotate to an off-site, preferably secret, storage facility at whatever interval is comfortable for you.

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