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I'd be interested in hearing if that unit has RFI problems. I had one that looked identical to that, with the brand "Jetstream" on it, on a spectrum analyzer a day or two ago. Appeared to produce lots of RF hash. Might be OK across a battery, but looked really bad by itself (hash at -80 dBm or so). The hash was riding the power cord as well as the output terminals. Did not do a through check, not enough time, just a quick look. In comparison, my MFJ-4125 produces no detectable hash. The spectrum analyzer has a floor of about -100 dBm so there could be noise below that that I'd not see. Usual disclaimer . . . no interest in either . . . just wanting to know what is going on . . . . 73 de dave ab9ca Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 wrote: > It's about the same size at the MFJ-4125, and W&S may have a better > reputation than MFJ. > It does look like a nice piece of kit, but what kind of warranty > coverage does W&S give to non-resident purchasers? > > The price is very good, in fact, especially if W&S will do the required > paper work for a VAT refund. > > 73, doug > > Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:58:35 +0000 > From: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[hidden email]> > > On the PSU - why not buy one here (I guess exchange rate might be an issue), > I'm using a Watson Power-Mite, purchased from Walters & Stanton (Watson is > their kit) > > http://www.wsplc.com/acatalog/Watson_Mains_Power_Supplies.html > should be the first item on that page > > Its very small, quiet - both physical and appears to be on RF too > Has switchable input voltage, so when you take it back it will work - it > should work in any country I would have thought. > A few nice features: > * uses a standard power cord with 'normal' PC style 3 pin - just take the > right cord for the country (anyone know right code for that kind of plug). > > * fan can run in auto mode or permanent on, it didn't come on much when I > used it with my FT-857 in the summer. > > * short-circuit and over-voltage protection > > * adjustable voltage, so if you don't really need another supply at home, > use it on the bench etc. > > since you're staying with family, have it delivered to them or get them to > purchase for you, W&S have a shop in the Midlands and Scotland too. > > > I haven't used the Alinco one, but it has an adjustment to compensate for > the RF it produces. > > > On 30/11/07 03:00, "Mike Geddes" <[hidden email]> sent: > > 2) Suggestions for a nice portable 20a > > switching power supply? I am looking for a smaller unit I can include in > > the case with the radio. And it must have 110/220v power options. I saw an > > Alinco that seemed to fit the bill. I welcome your ideas. > > -- > All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed. > -Sean O'Casey, playwright (1880-1964) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Well, I see that David says it's quiet at RF-
"Its very small, quiet - both physical and appears to be on RF too" I only see a 14A PS from Jetstream that's the same size- is that what you tested? And since W&S rebranded it, they may have changed other characteristics, too. It'd be interesting to see how the W&S unit did on a test bench, since it does look attractive. I've had reliability problems with the MFJ-4125, although the unit appears to be robust now, after two trips to MFJ, and some rework by myself. But I tend to work it hard, DXpedition and contest RTTY. BTW, I have found that not all equipment is more expensive in the UK. I have a TH-D7E that was cheaper in the UK (and had bandpass filters for the 430-440 satellite band, instead of 440-450). You just have to shop carefully. 73, doug M0BPI at times Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:36:30 -0600 From: dave <[hidden email]> I'd be interested in hearing if that unit has RFI problems. I had one that looked identical to that, with the brand "Jetstream" on it, on a spectrum analyzer a day or two ago. Appeared to produce lots of RF hash. Might be OK across a battery, but looked really bad by itself (hash at -80 dBm or so). The hash was riding the power cord as well as the output terminals. Did not do a through check, not enough time, just a quick look. Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 wrote: > It's about the same size at the MFJ-4125, and W&S may have a better > reputation than MFJ. > It does look like a nice piece of kit, but what kind of warranty > coverage does W&S give to non-resident purchasers? > > The price is very good, in fact, especially if W&S will do the required > paper work for a VAT refund. > > 73, doug > > Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:58:35 +0000 > From: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[hidden email]> > > On the PSU - why not buy one here (I guess exchange rate might be an issue), > I'm using a Watson Power-Mite, purchased from Walters & Stanton (Watson is > their kit) > > http://www.wsplc.com/acatalog/Watson_Mains_Power_Supplies.html > should be the first item on that page > > Its very small, quiet - both physical and appears to be on RF too > Has switchable input voltage, so when you take it back it will work - it > should work in any country I would have thought. > A few nice features: > * uses a standard power cord with 'normal' PC style 3 pin - just take the > right cord for the country (anyone know right code for that kind of plug). > > * fan can run in auto mode or permanent on, it didn't come on much when I > used it with my FT-857 in the summer. > > * short-circuit and over-voltage protection > > * adjustable voltage, so if you don't really need another supply at home, > use it on the bench etc. > > since you're staying with family, have it delivered to them or get them to > purchase for you, W&S have a shop in the Midlands and Scotland too. > > > I haven't used the Alinco one, but it has an adjustment to compensate for > the RF it produces. > > > On 30/11/07 03:00, "Mike Geddes" <[hidden email]> sent: > > 2) Suggestions for a nice portable 20a > > switching power supply? I am looking for a smaller unit I can include in > > the case with the radio. And it must have 110/220v power options. I saw an > > Alinco that seemed to fit the bill. I welcome your ideas. > > -- > All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed. > -Sean O'Casey, playwright (1880-1964) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I don't know if its a rebrand - I believe Watson is actually the
manufacturing arm of WATers and StantON - but I guess they don't actually manufacture, just design/spec etc. And I have not put a scope on this, I just didn't notice any RFI while using it. On 30/11/07 17:54, "Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604" <[hidden email]> sent: > Well, I see that David says it's quiet at RF- > "Its very small, quiet - both physical and appears to be on RF too" > > I only see a 14A PS from Jetstream that's the same size- is that what > you tested? > > And since W&S rebranded it, they may have changed other > characteristics, too. > > It'd be interesting to see how the W&S unit did on a test bench, since > it does look attractive. > > I've had reliability problems with the MFJ-4125, although the unit appears > to be robust now, after two trips to MFJ, and some rework by myself. > But I tend to work it hard, DXpedition and contest RTTY. > > BTW, I have found that not all equipment is more expensive in the UK. > I have a TH-D7E that was cheaper in the UK (and had bandpass filters > for the 430-440 satellite band, instead of 440-450). > You just have to shop carefully. > > 73, doug > M0BPI at times > > Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:36:30 -0600 > From: dave <[hidden email]> > > I'd be interested in hearing if that unit has RFI problems. I had one > that looked identical to that, with the brand "Jetstream" on it, on a > spectrum analyzer a day or two ago. Appeared to produce lots of RF > hash. Might be OK across a battery, but looked really bad by itself > (hash at -80 dBm or so). The hash was riding the power cord as well as > the output terminals. Did not do a through check, not enough time, just > a quick look. > > > Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 wrote: >> It's about the same size at the MFJ-4125, and W&S may have a better >> reputation than MFJ. >> It does look like a nice piece of kit, but what kind of warranty >> coverage does W&S give to non-resident purchasers? >> >> The price is very good, in fact, especially if W&S will do the required >> paper work for a VAT refund. >> >> 73, doug >> >> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:58:35 +0000 >> From: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[hidden email]> >> >> On the PSU - why not buy one here (I guess exchange rate might be an >> issue), >> I'm using a Watson Power-Mite, purchased from Walters & Stanton (Watson is >> their kit) >> >> http://www.wsplc.com/acatalog/Watson_Mains_Power_Supplies.html >> should be the first item on that page >> >> Its very small, quiet - both physical and appears to be on RF too >> Has switchable input voltage, so when you take it back it will work - it >> should work in any country I would have thought. >> A few nice features: >> * uses a standard power cord with 'normal' PC style 3 pin - just take the >> right cord for the country (anyone know right code for that kind of plug). >> >> * fan can run in auto mode or permanent on, it didn't come on much when I >> used it with my FT-857 in the summer. >> >> * short-circuit and over-voltage protection >> >> * adjustable voltage, so if you don't really need another supply at home, >> use it on the bench etc. >> >> since you're staying with family, have it delivered to them or get them to >> purchase for you, W&S have a shop in the Midlands and Scotland too. >> >> >> I haven't used the Alinco one, but it has an adjustment to compensate for >> the RF it produces. >> >> >> On 30/11/07 03:00, "Mike Geddes" <[hidden email]> sent: >> >> 2) Suggestions for a nice portable 20a >>> switching power supply? I am looking for a smaller unit I can include in >>> the case with the radio. And it must have 110/220v power options. I saw an >>> Alinco that seemed to fit the bill. I welcome your ideas. >> >> -- >> All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed. >> -Sean O'Casey, playwright (1880-1964) >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Post to: [hidden email] >> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Post to: [hidden email] >> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >> Subscriber Info (Addr. 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both the Watson..PS. and Dealer-Importer R&L's brand Jetstream PS
obviously come from the same offshore vendor. I was thinking about the Watson small unit with a pile of supercaps.... sort of a "super Gamma". bill At 12:03 PM 11/30/2007, you wrote: I don't know if its a rebrand - I believe Watson is actually the manufacturing arm of WATers and StantON - but I guess they don't actually manufacture, just design/spec etc. And I have not put a scope on this, I just didn't notice any RFI while using it. O _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Nov 30, 2007 6:03 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I don't know if its a rebrand - I believe Watson is actually the > manufacturing arm of WATers and StantON - but I guess they don't actually > manufacture, just design/spec etc. I don't think W&S make anything. They just rebrand, as you say. Some of their stuff is recognisable as the same products from other manufacturers, just with a different label, and a bit cheaper. I had a Watson switcher many years ago, and it was unusable because of the warbly noises it made. I have steered clear of switching power supplies ever since. However, you have to consider that the guys that brought the product to market are also hams, so presumably they thought it was OK. In a temporary setup the antenna may be pretty near the rig and the power supply, and well placed to pick up any noises it makes. Which is similar to my situation here, with my attic antenna farm. Someone whose antenna is on a 50 foot mast 50 feet away may never notice a thing. -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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It's in my local hardware stores.
73, doug From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" <[hidden email]> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:32:25 -0800 Thread-Index: AcgzVHJrMbVAikEIQtyy8CLzgh1WpQAMsixQ Bell wire is a twisted pair of plastic coated usually solid copper wire of about 18 or 20 gauge for low voltage use. At one time it was a standard hardware store item provided for hooking up a door bell. One needed to run the wires from the battery or transformer and bell to the button at the door. Wired doorbells, and the bell wire to hook them up, have faded from the shelves... Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- It's "speaker wire" over here, too. I've never heard the term "Bell wire" before. Do you really fish for roaches in the UK? -- Kenneth E. Harker WM5R [hidden email] http://www.kenharker.com/ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 wrote:
> Well, I see that David says it's quiet at RF- > "Its very small, quiet - both physical and appears to be on RF too" > > I only see a 14A PS from Jetstream that's the same size- is that what > you tested? > Yes, that's the one. A friend bought one and brought it by. I've not asked him how it is doing. He planned on using it to power a 2m rig and at VHF I could see no hash. Hopefully the mfg did put more filtering in the 20A version, and the 14A version is probably OK with added filters, but the stock one did not look good. Another friend brought by a RS 3A switcher that he was using to power his K2 until he found the source of his noise. Since then he has used it only as a battery charger. That one and the 14A Jetstream looked equally bad. 73 de dave ab9ca > And since W&S rebranded it, they may have changed other > characteristics, too. > > It'd be interesting to see how the W&S unit did on a test bench, since > it does look attractive. > > I've had reliability problems with the MFJ-4125, although the unit appears > to be robust now, after two trips to MFJ, and some rework by myself. > But I tend to work it hard, DXpedition and contest RTTY. > > BTW, I have found that not all equipment is more expensive in the UK. > I have a TH-D7E that was cheaper in the UK (and had bandpass filters > for the 430-440 satellite band, instead of 440-450). > You just have to shop carefully. > > 73, doug > M0BPI at times > > Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:36:30 -0600 > From: dave <[hidden email]> > > I'd be interested in hearing if that unit has RFI problems. I had one > that looked identical to that, with the brand "Jetstream" on it, on a > spectrum analyzer a day or two ago. Appeared to produce lots of RF > hash. Might be OK across a battery, but looked really bad by itself > (hash at -80 dBm or so). The hash was riding the power cord as well as > the output terminals. Did not do a through check, not enough time, just > a quick look. > > > Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 wrote: > > It's about the same size at the MFJ-4125, and W&S may have a better > > reputation than MFJ. > > It does look like a nice piece of kit, but what kind of warranty > > coverage does W&S give to non-resident purchasers? > > > > The price is very good, in fact, especially if W&S will do the required > > paper work for a VAT refund. > > > > 73, doug > > > > Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:58:35 +0000 > > From: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[hidden email]> > > > > On the PSU - why not buy one here (I guess exchange rate might be an issue), > > I'm using a Watson Power-Mite, purchased from Walters & Stanton (Watson is > > their kit) > > > > http://www.wsplc.com/acatalog/Watson_Mains_Power_Supplies.html > > should be the first item on that page > > > > Its very small, quiet - both physical and appears to be on RF too > > Has switchable input voltage, so when you take it back it will work - it > > should work in any country I would have thought. > > A few nice features: > > * uses a standard power cord with 'normal' PC style 3 pin - just take the > > right cord for the country (anyone know right code for that kind of plug). > > > > * fan can run in auto mode or permanent on, it didn't come on much when I > > used it with my FT-857 in the summer. > > > > * short-circuit and over-voltage protection > > > > * adjustable voltage, so if you don't really need another supply at home, > > use it on the bench etc. > > > > since you're staying with family, have it delivered to them or get them to > > purchase for you, W&S have a shop in the Midlands and Scotland too. > > > > > > I haven't used the Alinco one, but it has an adjustment to compensate for > > the RF it produces. > > > > > > On 30/11/07 03:00, "Mike Geddes" <[hidden email]> sent: > > > > 2) Suggestions for a nice portable 20a > > > switching power supply? I am looking for a smaller unit I can include in > > > the case with the radio. And it must have 110/220v power options. I saw an > > > Alinco that seemed to fit the bill. I welcome your ideas. > > > > -- > > All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed. > > -Sean O'Casey, playwright (1880-1964) > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Post to: [hidden email] > > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Post to: [hidden email] > > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > > Subscriber Info (Addr. 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Well actually, its side-by-side now days and not twisted - like a 2 core
ribbon cable, only it's normally single strand here - at least you don't see twisted often in the uk On 30/11/07 19:32, "Ron D'Eau Claire" <[hidden email]> sent: > Bell wire is a twisted pair of plastic coated usually solid copper wire of > about 18 or 20 gauge for low voltage use. At one time it was a standard > hardware store item provided for hooking up a door bell. One needed to run > the wires from the battery or transformer and bell to the button at the > door. > > Wired doorbells, and the bell wire to hook them up, have faded from the > shelves... > > Ron AC7AC A successful man is one who makes more money than a wife can spend. A successful woman is one who can find such a man. -Lana Turner, actress (1921-1995) _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 05:24:23 -0800, Kenneth E. Harker wrote:
>t's "speaker wire" over here, too. I've never heard the term >"Bell wire" before. "Bell Wire" was well-known to us oldsters - I got my license 55 years ago - as something that could be found in any hardware store. It was 18 AWG solid copper wire with a cotton covering, usually white with a colored stripe, and was widely used to hook up .......bells, what else! -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In a message dated 11/30/07 7:36:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes: > It was 18 AWG solid copper wire with a cotton covering, > usually white with a colored stripe, and was widely used to > hook up .......bells, what else! > I still have a roll. No, it's not for sale. 73 de Jim, N2EY, WCP (World Class Packrat) ************************************** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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You can still purchase in the UK, my rolls came from 'ScrewFix'
On 1/12/07 01:33, "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> sent: > In a message dated 11/30/07 7:36:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [hidden email] writes: > > >> It was 18 AWG solid copper wire with a cotton covering, >> usually white with a colored stripe, and was widely used to >> hook up .......bells, what else! >> > > I still have a roll. > > No, it's not for sale. > > 73 de Jim, N2EY, WCP (World Class Packrat) -- Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. -Carl Sagan, astronomer and author (1934-1996) _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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It was also good for winding coils on oatmeal boxes and the
old phenolic coil forms. Doug W6JD, Ex KN2CHN in 1952 -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Phil Kane" <[hidden email]> > On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 05:24:23 -0800, Kenneth E. Harker wrote: > > >t's "speaker wire" over here, too. I've never heard the term > >"Bell wire" before. > > "Bell Wire" was well-known to us oldsters - I got my license 55 > years ago - as something that could be found in any hardware > store. It was 18 AWG solid copper wire with a cotton covering, > usually white with a colored stripe, and was widely used to > hook up .......bells, what else! > > -- > 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane > Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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