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Deni F5VJC
I'm looking for an audio mixer either to build or purchase, must RFI proof
for use in the shack .
I want to feed multiple receiver audio outputs to a common amplified
speaker system.

Also I'd like to use one microphone and paddle to feed multiple
transmitters.

I'm sure this has been done before, anyone any pointers.

73,  Deni - F5VJC
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Re: OT Audio Mixer

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Most OP who uses a mixer in their shack usually go with the Behringer.The model number escapes me at the moment, but Google can be your friend.

((((73)))) Milverton. / W9MMS

      From: F5vjc <[hidden email]>
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 Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 5:29 AM
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I'm looking for an audio mixer either to build or purchase, must RFI proof
for use in the shack .
I want to feed multiple receiver audio outputs to a common amplified
speaker system.

Also I'd like to use one microphone and paddle to feed multiple
transmitters.

I'm sure this has been done before, anyone any pointers.

73,  Deni - F5VJC
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Re: OT Audio Mixer

David Cutter
A cap on every I/O should cure the rf problems, do it as soon as you receive
it then the pain is over and done with.

David
G3UNA

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> Most OP who uses a mixer in their shack usually go with the Behringer.The
> model number escapes me at the moment, but Google can be your friend.
>
> ((((73)))) Milverton. / W9MMS
>
>      From: F5vjc <[hidden email]>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 5:29 AM
> Subject: [Elecraft] OT Audio Mixer
>
> I'm looking for an audio mixer either to build or purchase, must RFI proof
> for use in the shack .
> I want to feed multiple receiver audio outputs to a common amplified
> speaker system.
>
> Also I'd like to use one microphone and paddle to feed multiple
> transmitters.
>
> I'm sure this has been done before, anyone any pointers.
>
> 73, Deni - F5VJC
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Re: OT Audio Mixer

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The only name you need to know is Behringer - station speakers, audio
panels, etc. Bulletproof!

Bill W2BLC - K-Line

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Re: OT Audio Mixer

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On Tue,1/13/2015 4:38 AM, Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft wrote:
> Most OP who uses a mixer in their shack usually go with the Behringer.The model number escapes me at the moment, but Google can be your friend.

Mackie mixers are the real deal. Rane also makes great little mixers.
Behringer is the rip-off company -- in the audio world, they have a
well-deserved reputation for poor quality, poor (or non-existent)
service, and for stealing the designs of the good companies.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: OT Audio Mixer

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Talk to Jim, K9YC [k9yc{at}arrl{dot}net].  Jim is retired from the
professional audio business, and has a vast trove of institutional
knowledge, including vendors and their products.  Possibly he'll weigh
in on this thread.

73,

Fred K6DGW
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On 1/13/2015 3:29 AM, F5vjc wrote:
> I'm looking for an audio mixer either to build or purchase, must RFI
> proof for use in the shack . I want to feed multiple receiver audio
> outputs to a common amplified speaker system.
>
> Also I'd like to use one microphone and paddle to feed multiple
> transmitters.
>
> I'm sure this has been done before, anyone any pointers.
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Re: OT Audio Mixer

Raymond Sills
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I have to disagree with Bill..... and agree with Jim, K9YC.  In the  
audio world, Behringer has out and out "stolen" the designs and types  
of products made by Mackie.  They sell them cheaper, and sometimes  
they work OK.  But they are pale copies of the real thing.  IMO, it's  
worth the modest extra expense to get better quality.

Yeah, sometimes I use "cheap" tools.... if the application is not  
critical, or only needed once.  But if you plan to use something again  
and again, it pays to buy tools of quality.

73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211

On Jan 13, 2015, at 8:46 AM, W2BLC wrote:

> The only name you need to know is Behringer - station speakers,  
> audio panels, etc. Bulletproof!
>
> Bill W2BLC - K-Line
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>>> They sell them cheaper <<<
Ray, do you know of anyone other than a Ham who likes things CHEEEEAP? 
>>>> But if you plan to use something again 
and again, it pays to buy tools of quality. <<<<
 " Mighty Fine Junk" should have been out of business a loooong time ago.
>>>>> In the  audio world, <<<<<
But! we are not talking about the "Audio" world here.We are talking about " Ham Radio " 
And! Ham Radio and Quality Audio of the Audio world are oxymoron.
If you should take a survey, you would find that a great percentage of OP use Behringer Mixer, and
they'll be the first to tell that they are not looking for a flat audio.
((((73)))) Milverton.




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I have to disagree with Bill..... and agree with Jim, K9YC.  In the 
audio world, Behringer has out and out "stolen" the designs and types 
of products made by Mackie.  They sell them cheaper, and sometimes 
they work OK.  But they are pale copies of the real thing.  IMO, it's 
worth the modest extra expense to get better quality.

Yeah, sometimes I use "cheap" tools.... if the application is not 
critical, or only needed once.  But if you plan to use something again 
and again, it pays to buy tools of quality.

73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211

On Jan 13, 2015, at 8:46 AM, W2BLC wrote:

> The only name you need to know is Behringer - station speakers, 
> audio panels, etc. Bulletproof!
>
> Bill W2BLC - K-Line
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Re: OT Audio Mixer

Gary Gregory-2
Jim is 100% accurate.
I know when Behringer gear is being used because to my ears and many others
i have spoken to the audio is sharp and/or muffled with excessive bass.
Listened to oos trying to get it adjusted while on air and it always ends
up sounding lousy to my ears.
I will not bother to comment on the bandwidth.....nuff said already on this
subject suffice to say woeful.

Gary
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K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3.
On 16/01/2015 8:34 AM, "Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft" <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> >>> They sell them cheaper <<<
> Ray, do you know of anyone other than a Ham who likes things CHEEEEAP?
> >>>> But if you plan to use something again
> and again, it pays to buy tools of quality. <<<<
>  " Mighty Fine Junk" should have been out of business a loooong time ago.
> >>>>> In the  audio world, <<<<<
> But! we are not talking about the "Audio" world here.We are talking about
> " Ham Radio "
> And! Ham Radio and Quality Audio of the Audio world are oxymoron.
> If you should take a survey, you would find that a great percentage of OP
> use Behringer Mixer, and
> they'll be the first to tell that they are not looking for a flat audio.
> ((((73)))) Milverton.
>
>
>
>
>       From: Ray Sills <[hidden email]>
>  To: [hidden email]
>  Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 4:00 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT Audio Mixer
>
> I have to disagree with Bill..... and agree with Jim, K9YC.  In the
> audio world, Behringer has out and out "stolen" the designs and types
> of products made by Mackie.  They sell them cheaper, and sometimes
> they work OK.  But they are pale copies of the real thing.  IMO, it's
> worth the modest extra expense to get better quality.
>
> Yeah, sometimes I use "cheap" tools.... if the application is not
> critical, or only needed once.  But if you plan to use something again
> and again, it pays to buy tools of quality.
>
> 73 de Ray
> K2ULR
> KX3 #211
>
> On Jan 13, 2015, at 8:46 AM, W2BLC wrote:
>
> > The only name you need to know is Behringer - station speakers,
> > audio panels, etc. Bulletproof!
> >
> > Bill W2BLC - K-Line
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Re: OT Audio Mixer

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Guys,  this is way OTT all I was looking for was a way to feed the RX audio
from my transceivers to a common amplified stereo speaker setup.
There is ample audio shaping (EQ) in all modern transceivers so I don't
want or need any external audio massaging.

I like genuine quality cables and connectors but have no interest in ESSB
or pseudo HI-FI SSB so fancy mixers are not on the agenda.

Thanks for your help and comments.

73 F5VJC

73,  Deni - F5VJC



On 15 January 2015 at 23:33, Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> >>> They sell them cheaper <<<
> Ray, do you know of anyone other than a Ham who likes things CHEEEEAP?
> >>>> But if you plan to use something again
> and again, it pays to buy tools of quality. <<<<
>  " Mighty Fine Junk" should have been out of business a loooong time ago.
> >>>>> In the  audio world, <<<<<
> But! we are not talking about the "Audio" world here.We are talking about
> " Ham Radio "
> And! Ham Radio and Quality Audio of the Audio world are oxymoron.
> If you should take a survey, you would find that a great percentage of OP
> use Behringer Mixer, and
> they'll be the first to tell that they are not looking for a flat audio.
> ((((73)))) Milverton.
>
>
>
>
>       From: Ray Sills <[hidden email]>
>  To: [hidden email]
>  Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 4:00 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT Audio Mixer
>
> I have to disagree with Bill..... and agree with Jim, K9YC.  In the
> audio world, Behringer has out and out "stolen" the designs and types
> of products made by Mackie.  They sell them cheaper, and sometimes
> they work OK.  But they are pale copies of the real thing.  IMO, it's
> worth the modest extra expense to get better quality.
>
> Yeah, sometimes I use "cheap" tools.... if the application is not
> critical, or only needed once.  But if you plan to use something again
> and again, it pays to buy tools of quality.
>
> 73 de Ray
> K2ULR
> KX3 #211
>
> On Jan 13, 2015, at 8:46 AM, W2BLC wrote:
>
> > The only name you need to know is Behringer - station speakers,
> > audio panels, etc. Bulletproof!
> >
> > Bill W2BLC - K-Line
> >
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