OT: Cost of Electricity
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I am fortunate to live in Palo Alto, CA which owns and operates its own
very well run utilities. Back in the days before "de-regulation" they had the sense to lock in a number of longterm contracts for power and as a consequence my last month bill for 423KWH was $35.15 or 8.3 cents per KWH. Doug W6JD _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: OT: Cost of Electricity
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And we also have a green energy program, where you pay a surcharge to
enable them to purchase more costly electricity from solar, wind, and hydro. 73, Leigh/WA5ZNU On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 3:23 pm, [hidden email] wrote: > I am fortunate to live in Palo Alto, CA which owns and operates its own > very well run utilities. Back in the days before "de-regulation" they > had the > sense to lock in a number of longterm contracts for power and as a > consequence my last month bill for 423KWH was $35.15 or 8.3 cents > per KWH. > > Doug > W6JD _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In a message dated 8/29/07 7:02:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [hidden email]
writes: > green energy program, where you pay a surcharge to > enable them to purchase more costly electricity from solar, wind, and > hydro. > I signed up for that. We have wind farms in northeastern PA and more going up. Twenty five cents a day to have the first 300 kWh per month from wind. 73 de Jim, N2EY ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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wow, sorry you mentioned that .. I looked at my bill and I'm paying
almost 12 cents/KWH for generation, plus another 6 cents for transmission! de w1rt/john On 8/29/07, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: > I am fortunate to live in Palo Alto, CA which owns and operates its own > very well run utilities. Back in the days before "de-regulation" they had the > sense to lock in a number of longterm contracts for power and as a > consequence my last month bill for 423KWH was $35.15 or 8.3 cents > per KWH. > > Doug > W6JD > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hi John,
You and I live in the same area and my electric rate runs about 12 cents per kWHr delivered. I don't pay one bit of attention to generation vs. delivery as I could care less. What matters is the energy received / $ spent for it. This gives me an idea to put up a web site and record willingly volunteered people's electric bill amounts and kWHrs delivered to begin to analyze just what energy costs where. Hey this gives you QRPers bragging rights doesn't it? John KX4O John D'Ausilio wrote: >wow, sorry you mentioned that .. I looked at my bill and I'm paying >almost 12 cents/KWH for generation, plus another 6 cents for >transmission! > >de w1rt/john > >On 8/29/07, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: > > >>I am fortunate to live in Palo Alto, CA which owns and operates its own >>very well run utilities. Back in the days before "de-regulation" they had the >>sense to lock in a number of longterm contracts for power and as a >>consequence my last month bill for 423KWH was $35.15 or 8.3 cents >>per KWH. >> >>Doug >>W6JD >>_______________________________________________ >>Elecraft mailing list >>Post to: [hidden email] >>You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >>Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> >>Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >>Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Post to: [hidden email] >You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: OT: Cost of Electricity
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The city of Austin also runs its own municipal electric utility.
We have a $6/month flat fee on top of usage. Our rates vary by time of year, and the first 500 kWh/month are less than anything over that. For 423 kWh in the summer, we'd pay $21.01 total, or an effective 4.9 cents per kWh. I don't think you'd ever get to 8.3 cents per kWh, even factoring in the $6 base fee, as the maximum usage rate for us is 7.82 cents per kWh. Go out into the Hill Country or the northern suburbs, though, and it's a completely different story. The Pedernales Electric Cooperative (the largest electric coop in the country) has a $20/month base fee and usage rates that start at 8.67 cents a kWh. 423 kWh out there would cost $56.67 or an effective 13.4 cents per kWh. [Half of my coworkers live in PEC territory and half of us live in Austin Energy territory - it leads to interesting comparisons.] On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 10:23:00PM +0000, [hidden email] wrote: > I am fortunate to live in Palo Alto, CA which owns and operates its own > very well run utilities. Back in the days before "de-regulation" they had the > sense to lock in a number of longterm contracts for power and as a > consequence my last month bill for 423KWH was $35.15 or 8.3 cents > per KWH. > > Doug > W6JD > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- Kenneth E. Harker WM5R [hidden email] http://www.kenharker.com/ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Kenneth E. Harker wrote:
> The city of Austin also runs its own municipal electric utility. > Insert the zip and you can see rates for all over texas: http://www.powertochoose.org/ -- GB & 73's KA5OAI Sam Morgan _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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What about FUEL surcharges (FUEL Factor for Generation Charges)? I live
near Houston and we have low rate as well, but we also have FUEL Factor for Generation Charges which is an additional $0.083261/kWh. My bill was $182.38 for this August and $102.91 of that was the "Fuel Factor for Generation" charge. That made the average price per kWh for August $0.148. The breakdown goes $0.02604 for first 250kWh; all additional kWh @ $0.068903 and the fuel factor for generation is $0.083261 kWh for each kWh used. Each month the "Fuel Charge for Generation changes. It is a screwy way of billing and makes checking the bill harder than it should be. The average price per kWh for August $0.148. Terry KQ5U ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth E. Harker" <[hidden email]> To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Cost of Electricity > The city of Austin also runs its own municipal electric utility. > We have a $6/month flat fee on top of usage. Our rates vary by time of > year, and the first 500 kWh/month are less than anything over that. > For 423 kWh in the summer, we'd pay $21.01 total, or an effective 4.9 > cents per kWh. I don't think you'd ever get to 8.3 cents per kWh, even > factoring in the $6 base fee, as the maximum usage rate for us is 7.82 > cents per kWh. > > Go out into the Hill Country or the northern suburbs, though, and > it's a completely different story. The Pedernales Electric Cooperative > (the largest electric coop in the country) has a $20/month base fee and > usage rates that start at 8.67 cents a kWh. 423 kWh out there would > cost $56.67 or an effective 13.4 cents per kWh. [Half of my coworkers > live in PEC territory and half of us live in Austin Energy territory - > it leads to interesting comparisons.] > > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 10:23:00PM +0000, [hidden email] wrote: >> I am fortunate to live in Palo Alto, CA which owns and operates its own >> very well run utilities. Back in the days before "de-regulation" they had >> the >> sense to lock in a number of longterm contracts for power and as a >> consequence my last month bill for 423KWH was $35.15 or 8.3 cents >> per KWH. >> >> Doug >> W6JD >> _______________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Post to: [hidden email] >> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > -- > Kenneth E. Harker WM5R > [hidden email] > http://www.kenharker.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Lets end this thread. It is -way- off topic. :-)
73, Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft List Moderator. -- Terry Myers wrote: > What about FUEL surcharges (FUEL Factor for Generation Charges)? I > live near Houston and we have low rate as well, but we also have FUEL > Factor for Generation Charges which is an additional $0.083261/kWh. > My bill was $182.38 for this August and $102.91 of that was the "Fuel > Factor for Generation" charge. That made the average price per kWh > for August $0.148. > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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