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[OT] Elecraft's Linux utilities - somewhat OT, or maybe not

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[OT] Elecraft's Linux utilities - somewhat OT, or maybe not

I don't believe people load Linux just so they can spend time getting a computer to run Elecraft utilities. The use of Linux appears to be more of a philosophical endeavor than a strictly performance one. It's not too often that I hear someone say that they run Linux because they can't get a similar app on Windows.

Windows runs on around 90% of the worlds desktops and laptops. OSX something less than 9%, Linux (all distros) less than 2%. One of the reason for Window's dominance is the (generally) simplified user experience, coupled with the broad software/comparable hardware availability. The two sides feed on and promote each other. i.e. a larger installed base of OS users makes for an attractive market for software/hardware creators. Of course, it also makes it a fertile hunting ground for malware creators, too...

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Bruce N1RX

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Bill W2BLC <[hidden email]> wrote:

>I really have to chuckle regarding all the various "simple" steps the
>Linux users go through to get their computers to speak to the K3. I have
>one machine set up for Linux - although I am not really sure why.
>Everything I do using a computer is so much easier on Windows -
>including control of all the parts of my K-Line. Download, install, and
>use - it doesn't get much simpler than that.
>
>It took me over an hour to get a simple WiFi printer operating on Linux
>Mint 17 this afternoon (driver issues). Took me less than five minutes
>on the Win 8.1 machine. I use a network for my printers and all the
>computers share the same printers - Windows and Linux.
>
>Having said all that, I cannot imagine spending a bunch of time getting
>Linux up and running with the K-Line software much less having faith in
>its ability to correctly operate/update the K-Line.
>
>I am not trolling, I really would like an honest answer as to why Linux
>is chosen over Windows for similar operations. I play with Linux and
>work with Windows. I have been dealing with computers and software
>design since the late 1970s - so I am not living in a cave.
>
>If you reply to my question - and all you are going to do is take me to
>the woodshed, then kindly don't bother.
>
>Bill W2BLC K-Line
>
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Re: [OT] Elecraft's Linux utilities - somewhat OT, or maybe not

Bill,

You're correct. It feeds on itself. But consider that you sent your
post from a linux computer. Is linux only 2% if you include tablets and
phones? Android is the leader in smart phones by a wide margin - and
Android is linux.

Windows is losing ground rapidly. Windows 8 was an *attempt* to regain
some traction in the tablet and phone market. But only an attempt.

Now back to our regularly scheduled program.

With the correct libs installed, the linux-based Elecraft Utilities work
just fine. So does fldigi. Running Mint 16 Cinnamon on an Intel NUC
with a 1.2 Ghz Celeron screwed onto the back of my monitor, I have an
excellent radio desk computer. I'm not sure I could find a simpler user
interface than Cinnamon.

73, Doug -- K0DXV

On 5/27/2014 6:29 PM, Bruce Beford wrote:

> I don't believe people load Linux just so they can spend time getting a computer to run Elecraft utilities. The use of Linux appears to be more of a philosophical endeavor than a strictly performance one. It's not too often that I hear someone say that they run Linux because they can't get a similar app on Windows.
>
> Windows runs on around 90% of the worlds desktops and laptops. OSX something less than 9%, Linux (all distros) less than 2%. One of the reason for Window's dominance is the (generally) simplified user experience, coupled with the broad software/comparable hardware availability. The two sides feed on and promote each other. i.e. a larger installed base of OS users makes for an attractive market for software/hardware creators. Of course, it also makes it a fertile hunting ground for malware creators, too...
>
> (My only post in this thread...)
> Bruce N1RX
>
>
>
> Sent from my ASUS Pad
>
> Bill W2BLC <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I really have to chuckle regarding all the various "simple" steps the
>> Linux users go through to get their computers to speak to the K3. I have
>> one machine set up for Linux - although I am not really sure why.
>> Everything I do using a computer is so much easier on Windows -
>> including control of all the parts of my K-Line. Download, install, and
>> use - it doesn't get much simpler than that.
>>
>> It took me over an hour to get a simple WiFi printer operating on Linux
>> Mint 17 this afternoon (driver issues). Took me less than five minutes
>> on the Win 8.1 machine. I use a network for my printers and all the
>> computers share the same printers - Windows and Linux.
>>
>> Having said all that, I cannot imagine spending a bunch of time getting
>> Linux up and running with the K-Line software much less having faith in
>> its ability to correctly operate/update the K-Line.
>>
>> I am not trolling, I really would like an honest answer as to why Linux
>> is chosen over Windows for similar operations. I play with Linux and
>> work with Windows. I have been dealing with computers and software
>> design since the late 1970s - so I am not living in a cave.
>>
>> If you reply to my question - and all you are going to do is take me to
>> the woodshed, then kindly don't bother.
>>
>> Bill W2BLC K-Line
>>
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