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OT - Jawbone, Noise Cancellation, Bluetooth & Ham Radio

dave.wilburn
Curious if anyone has seen anything concerning Bluetooth and
interfacing with radios?  With the convergence of laws requiring hands
free operation while mobile, and tools like Jawbone URL
<http://www.jawbone.com/> it would seem like the next step.

Jawbone has a sensor that detects words coming only the individual
(detects the sounds coming through the skin and compares to other
noises), and only then goes into 'talk' mode.

Mine works great on a cell phone.  I can see a need for developing a
Bluetooth interface for radios.  But didn't know if something already
existed.
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Dave Wilburn
K4DGW
K2/100 - S/N 5982

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RE: OT - Jawbone, Noise Cancellation, Bluetooth & Ham Radio

Dick Dievendorff
I looked for a Bluetooth Headset and found a BlueAnt X5 that includes an
"Audio Streamer" device that streams Bluetooth to a PC's audio connection.
I don't have one of these, but it appeared at first glance that it might be
able to connect to the microphone and speaker lines of a PC sound card, so
it could do something similar with an amateur radio.  This may not be the
exact device you're looking for (it needs to be recharged via a USB cable)
but it might lead you in that direction.

I'd look for a device that communicates with Bluetooth devices and has
cables to connect to a PC's sound card.  Maybe it's just a little bit of
work to create a cable that connects to the radio's microphone / headset /
some 5V supply that would enable a device like this to be used with any
given rig and some Bluetooth headset designed for use with cell phones.

The BlueAnt X5 headset carries warnings that it is not appropriate for
mobile use by a driver (presumably because it covers both ears), but the
"Audio Streamer" device may be something like the device you're looking for.

Dick, K6KR





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Subject: [Elecraft] OT - Jawbone, Noise Cancellation, Bluetooth & Ham Radio

Curious if anyone has seen anything concerning Bluetooth and
interfacing with radios?  With the convergence of laws requiring hands
free operation while mobile, and tools like Jawbone URL
<http://www.jawbone.com/> it would seem like the next step.

Jawbone has a sensor that detects words coming only the individual
(detects the sounds coming through the skin and compares to other
noises), and only then goes into 'talk' mode.

Mine works great on a cell phone.  I can see a need for developing a
Bluetooth interface for radios.  But didn't know if something already
existed.
--


Dave Wilburn
K4DGW
K2/100 - S/N 5982

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Re: OT - Jawbone, Noise Cancellation, Bluetooth & Ham Radio

Dan Romanchik KB6NU
In reply to this post by dave.wilburn
Some of the folks who responded to my blog post, http://kb6nu.com/ 
OLD32/, entered links to various BlueTooth products for ham radio  
applications.

73!

Dan KB6NU
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CW Geek and MI Affiliated Club Coordinator
Read my ham radio blog at http://www.kb6nu.com
LET'S GET MORE KIDS INTO HAM RADIO!



On Apr 6, 2008, at Apr 6, 12:53 PM, David Wilburn wrote:

> Curious if anyone has seen anything concerning Bluetooth and  
> interfacing with radios?  With the convergence of laws requiring  
> hands free operation while mobile, and tools like Jawbone URL  
> <http://www.jawbone.com/> it would seem like the next step.
>
> Jawbone has a sensor that detects words coming only the individual  
> (detects the sounds coming through the skin and compares to other  
> noises), and only then goes into 'talk' mode.
>
> Mine works great on a cell phone.  I can see a need for developing  
> a Bluetooth interface for radios.  But didn't know if something  
> already existed.
> --
>
>
> Dave Wilburn
> K4DGW
> K2/100 - S/N 5982
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Re: OT - Jawbone, Noise Cancellation, Bluetooth & Ham Radio

Dave Andrus-3
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Randy, K7AGE, has a good YouTube video about how to do this.  I've got  
the BlueParrot headset and the audio interface also, but haven't had  
time to try them out.  I ordered both pieces that Randy's video  
recommends, and both have fairly easy credit-card ordering from their  
websites.

The headset took about 6 weeks to receive after I ordered it, but  
hopefully the company is back to current stock again.  Main advantage,  
as pointed out in the video, is that this headset brings the mike tube  
out close to the side of your mouth.

FYI, besides the Jabra piece, I've also found similar devices with  
submini plugs from Logitech and Motorola at local big-box home  
entertainment stores like Best Buy.  Both look like they could be used  
instead of the Jabra unit.  YMMV.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ypVUoRVv3U

73,

Dave K7DAA
http://www.k7daa.com

On Apr 6, 2008, at 9:53 AM, David Wilburn wrote:

> Curious if anyone has seen anything concerning Bluetooth and  
> interfacing with radios?  With the convergence of laws requiring  
> hands free operation while mobile, and tools like Jawbone URL <http://www.jawbone.com/ 
> > it would seem like the next step.
>
> Jawbone has a sensor that detects words coming only the individual  
> (detects the sounds coming through the skin and compares to other  
> noises), and only then goes into 'talk' mode.
>
> Mine works great on a cell phone.  I can see a need for developing a  
> Bluetooth interface for radios.  But didn't know if something  
> already existed.
> --
>
>
> Dave Wilburn
> K4DGW
> K2/100 - S/N 5982
>
> "A dead enemy is a peaceful enemy.....blessed be the peacemakers."
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Re: OT - Jawbone, Noise Cancellation, Bluetooth & Ham Radio

Phil Kane-2
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On 4/6/2008 10:25 AM, Dick Dievendorff wrote:

> I'd look for a device that communicates with Bluetooth devices and has
> cables to connect to a PC's sound card.  Maybe it's just a little bit of
> work to create a cable that connects to the radio's microphone / headset

I'm looking for a device that I can plug into the Headphone jack of a
hand-held radio (scanner, HT. etc) and allow me to use the "single ear
teardrop" type of Bluetooth earphone.  Microphone capability not needed
or wanted.  When I looked for this a while ago I was overloaded by
jargon (and I'm a graduate engineer!) the bottom line of which was that
the encoding protocol used for such earphones was different from the
"double ear" type of music earphones.

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RE: OT - Jawbone, Noise Cancellation, Bluetooth & Ham Radio

Don Nesbitt
Hello Phil - you might want to take a look at:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6ypVUoRVv3U

It's a pretty nice explanation of one possibility.  73 -- Don N4HH

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Radio

On 4/6/2008 10:25 AM, Dick Dievendorff wrote:

> I'd look for a device that communicates with Bluetooth devices and has
> cables to connect to a PC's sound card.  Maybe it's just a little bit of
> work to create a cable that connects to the radio's microphone / headset

I'm looking for a device that I can plug into the Headphone jack of a
hand-held radio (scanner, HT. etc) and allow me to use the "single ear
teardrop" type of Bluetooth earphone.  Microphone capability not needed
or wanted.  When I looked for this a while ago I was overloaded by
jargon (and I'm a graduate engineer!) the bottom line of which was that
the encoding protocol used for such earphones was different from the
"double ear" type of music earphones.

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402
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