OT: Last post on time subject
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The time displayed on cell phones is probably the most accurate that's
available to most of us. It's synched to the satellite system which is synched to the NBS cesium standard in Boulder. 73 Ken Kopp - K0PP ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Not if you have an iPhone. My bride-to-be and I each have one and they don't
agree with each other and certainly not with an accurate time standard. And I'm speaking of minutes, not seconds. Wes N7WS On 11/26/2014 5:08 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote: > The time displayed on cell phones is probably the most accurate that's > available to most of us. It's synched to the satellite system which is > synched to the NBS cesium standard in Boulder. > > 73 > > Ken Kopp - K0PP > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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General->Date & Time->Set Automatically needs to be on but I have 2
iPhones an iPad and a MacBook Pro laptop all agreeing on the time. The two iPhones are on different carriers as well. Maybe the US is not as up to date as the rest of the world. :-) On 27/11/2014 16:35, Wes (N7WS) wrote: > Not if you have an iPhone. My bride-to-be and I each have one and > they don't agree with each other and certainly not with an accurate > time standard. And I'm speaking of minutes, not seconds. > > Wes N7WS > > On 11/26/2014 5:08 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote: >> The time displayed on cell phones is probably the most accurate that's >> available to most of us. It's synched to the satellite system which is >> synched to the NBS cesium standard in Boulder. >> >> 73 >> >> Ken Kopp - K0PP >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On Thu 27 Nov Martin Sole (HS0ZED) wrote:
> Maybe the US is not as up to date as the rest of the world. :-) Here in the UK I've seen one network carrier adrift by several minutes on occasions, and it even missed a daylight savings change for a few days once. ;) Generally, networks aren't bad, but when operating away from base I figure the clock in my handheld GPSr is likely to be more accurate, and it'll tell me my QTH locator too. :) The clock in my KX3 is mainly for timing the battery charging. -- 73, Rick, M0LEP (KX3 #3281) ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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In reply to this post by Martin Sole (HS0ZED)
and your Elecraft was built where? ;)
-- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info On Thu, 2014-11-27 at 16:51 +0300, Martin Sole (HS0ZED) wrote: > General->Date & Time->Set Automatically needs to be on but I have 2 > iPhones an iPad and a MacBook Pro laptop all agreeing on the time. The > two iPhones are on different carriers as well. Maybe the US is not as up > to date as the rest of the world. :-) > > > On 27/11/2014 16:35, Wes (N7WS) wrote: > > Not if you have an iPhone. My bride-to-be and I each have one and > > they don't agree with each other and certainly not with an accurate > > time standard. And I'm speaking of minutes, not seconds. > > > > Wes N7WS > > > > On 11/26/2014 5:08 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote: > >> The time displayed on cell phones is probably the most accurate that's > >> available to most of us. It's synched to the satellite system which is > >> synched to the NBS cesium standard in Boulder. > >> > >> 73 > >> > >> Ken Kopp - K0PP > >> > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Ken,
Net time is managed via NTP, and not all carriers do a good job. -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Ken G Kopp Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 16:08 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Last post on time subject The time displayed on cell phones is probably the most accurate that's available to most of us. It's synched to the satellite system which is synched to the NBS cesium standard in Boulder. 73 Ken Kopp - K0PP ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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The best timekeeper in my opinion are the solar powered watches that get
their time via GPS (ex: Seiko Astron). You never need to make any adjustments for where you are. But if you like analog displays (hands), the cost is enough to get a really nice radio. And some with 39 time zones around the face. Of course, these may be relatively useless if the satellites are hit with a sufficiently large mass coronal emission. Regardless...I'd be very THANKFUL if one of those turned up here Nick N1KMP ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Actually, the state of Arizona where we live, is ahead of most of the rest of
the world in recognizing that no daylight is actually saved by "Daylight Savings Time." Hence, we don't participate in the nonsense. Regrettably, Apple thinks that we should, so turning on the automatic setting also turns on (M)DST and places me in Colorado. Then the error is greater than one hour. If I leave it off, in has me in Phoenix (I'm actually in Tucson). If the phone was really "smart", it would know better. On 11/27/2014 6:51 AM, Martin Sole (HS0ZED) wrote: > General->Date & Time->Set Automatically needs to be on but I have 2 iPhones an > iPad and a MacBook Pro laptop all agreeing on the time. The two iPhones are on > different carriers as well. Maybe the US is not as up to date as the rest of > the world. :-) > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I have the Casio Waveceptor which sync's with WWV each night as well.
But changing the time zone when I travel is less than intuitive so I have to keep instructions with me. The GPS know where you are and the time zone changes automatically. I did notice that on the first cruise we took it lost a lot of time. The second one it worked fine. Once out of the US, WWV can be pretty hard to get. Nick N1KMP Jim Allen wrote , ----On 11/27/2014 11:11 AM ---------------------------: > I have had a Casio Triple Sensor Pathfinder which is solar powered, > has time in any zone, timer, stop watch, 4 alarms, day, date, moon > phase, tides, compass, barometric pressure, altitude and maybe some > other things, and syncs to WWV each night, so it has been right on the > money ever since I bought it some years ago. > > 73 de W6OGC Jim Allen > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I clould have said that better...
The GPS based watches know where you are and the time zone changes automatically. Nick Kemp wrote , ----On 11/27/2014 11:31 AM ---------------------------: > The GPS know where you are and the > time zone changes automatically. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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You folks with your fancy watches!
I have an inexpensive Timex Expedition that I have had for about 3 years now - the one before it lasted over 5 years. The only time I have to set it is the changes between standard and daylight saving time. It is quite accurate - I check it against WWV about once a month and it has never been off by more than 2 seconds. I replace it when the battery dies or the plating on the edges of the back wears off. My Seiko sits in the drawer and shows the correct time twice a day:-) . The battery needs to be replaced every 4 to 6 months - it looks nice, but I don't use it because of the battery life. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/27/2014 12:31 PM, Nick Kemp wrote: > I have the Casio Waveceptor which sync's with WWV each night as well. > But changing the time zone when I travel is less than intuitive so I > have to keep instructions with me. The GPS know where you are and the > time zone changes automatically. > > I did notice that on the first cruise we took it lost a lot of time. > The second one it worked fine. Once out of the US, WWV can be pretty > hard to get. > > Nick > N1KMP > > Jim Allen wrote , ----On 11/27/2014 11:11 AM ---------------------------: >> I have had a Casio Triple Sensor Pathfinder which is solar powered, >> has time in any zone, timer, stop watch, 4 alarms, day, date, moon >> phase, tides, compass, barometric pressure, altitude and maybe some >> other things, and syncs to WWV each night, so it has been right on >> the money ever since I bought it some years ago. >> >> 73 de W6OGC Jim Allen >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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You need to take the two week operator's school in Chicago! :>)
I have taken this watch on cruise down south and to Europe, as far as Istanbul and noted no problem, but in Istanbul I have no idea whether it is synched up or not. It seemed to be in France and Switzerland. GPS would be better, no doubt. The satellites are definitely "on time." 73 de W6OGC Jim Allen On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Nick Kemp <[hidden email]> wrote: > I have the Casio Waveceptor which sync's with WWV each night as well. But > changing the time zone when I travel is less than intuitive so I have to > keep instructions with me. The GPS know where you are and the time zone > changes automatically. > > I did notice that on the first cruise we took it lost a lot of time. The > second one it worked fine. Once out of the US, WWV can be pretty hard to > get. > > Nick > N1KMP > > Jim Allen wrote , ----On 11/27/2014 11:11 AM ---------------------------: > >> I have had a Casio Triple Sensor Pathfinder which is solar powered, has >> time in any zone, timer, stop watch, 4 alarms, day, date, moon phase, >> tides, compass, barometric pressure, altitude and maybe some other things, >> and syncs to WWV each night, so it has been right on the money ever since I >> bought it some years ago. >> >> 73 de W6OGC Jim Allen >> >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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"The battery needs to be replaced every 4 to 6 months - it looks nice,
but I don't use it because of the battery life. " That is why I went with the solar watch. I got tired of watch batteries dieing in less than a year. I like analog dials. The rummer is that as analog watches age, the lubricants evap/deteriorate causing greater strain on the "motor" and that is why batteries don't last in older watches compared to newer. Or is it that watch batteries aren't as good as they used to be? I periodically look for a reasonably priced, good, self winding mechanical watch...but do I really need another? Nick N1KMP ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On 11/27/2014 8:52 AM, Nick Kemp wrote:
> The best timekeeper in my opinion are the solar powered watches that get > their time via GPS (ex: Seiko Astron). That doesn't do much for someone (like myself) who is located in a place that doesn't get GPS or 60kHz signals of sufficient strength in the radio room to activate a wall clock. 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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