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stan levandowski

(OT) -- Regarding the QRP Discussion

FYI - if any Listers here happened to work 3DA0US in the last couple of
days, you might be interested to learn that he was running a KX3 at
between 5 and 10 watts depending upon his DC input level. His antenna
was a PAR Omni Angle on a 22 foot fiberglass pole. He made 400 contacts
in two days of operating and he was only on a few hours each day. In a
couple of weeks he'll be operating as 7P8US with the same rig and
antenna.

The PAR Omni Angle is only a 7 foot aluminum rectangle with a matching
network and it only weighs a couple of pounds. Most hams would probably
dub the Par Omni Angle a "suboptimal" or "compromise" antenna.

A well versed operator, knowledge of propagation, patience, preparation,
perseverance and top shelf equipment goes a long way to offset the
handicap of a "compromise" antenna.

73, Stan WB2LQF

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David Gilbert

Re: (OT) -- Regarding the QRP Discussion

So does having a semi-rare callsign.

Dave AB7E

On 2/6/2014 6:05 PM, stan levandowski wrote:

> FYI - if any Listers here happened to work 3DA0US in the last couple
> of days, you might be interested to learn that he was running a KX3
> at between 5 and 10 watts depending upon his DC input level. His
> antenna was a PAR Omni Angle on a 22 foot fiberglass pole. He made
> 400 contacts in two days of operating and he was only on a few hours
> each day. In a couple of weeks he'll be operating as 7P8US with the
> same rig and antenna.
>
>
> The PAR Omni Angle is only a 7 foot aluminum rectangle with a matching
> network and it only weighs a couple of pounds. Most hams would
> probably dub the Par Omni Angle a "suboptimal" or "compromise" antenna.
>
>
> A well versed operator, knowledge of propagation, patience,
> preparation, perseverance and top shelf equipment goes a long way to
> offset the handicap of a "compromise" antenna.
>
>
> 73, Stan WB2LQF
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Jack Chomley

Re: (OT) -- Regarding the QRP Discussion

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I would not say the Omniangle is a compromise antenna if it works :-) The operator had nothing else to compare it with and was able to make many contacts with it!
We would all like a big Yagi I guess, but they weigh more than a few pounds.
The thrill really, is doing more......with less!
Incidentally, I am about to find out just how good an Omniangle on 20 metres is, Dale shipped mine out, earlier this week.

73,

Jack VK4JRC

Club. www.cqara.org.au
Member WIA SARL ARRL
GQRP #14392
QRPARCI #15068
VKQRP. #833

> On 7 Feb 2014, at 11:05 am, stan levandowski <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> FYI - if any Listers here happened to work 3DA0US in the last couple of days, you might be interested to learn that he was running a KX3 at between 5 and 10 watts depending upon his DC input level. His antenna was a PAR Omni Angle on a 22 foot fiberglass pole. He made 400 contacts in two days of operating and he was only on a few hours each day. In a couple of weeks he'll be operating as 7P8US with the same rig and antenna.
>
>
> The PAR Omni Angle is only a 7 foot aluminum rectangle with a matching network and it only weighs a couple of pounds. Most hams would probably dub the Par Omni Angle a "suboptimal" or "compromise" antenna.
>
>
> A well versed operator, knowledge of propagation, patience, preparation, perseverance and top shelf equipment goes a long way to offset the handicap of a "compromise" antenna.
>
>
> 73, Stan WB2LQF
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Jim Low man

Re: (OT) -- Regarding the QRP Discussion

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Does anyone know what this antenna costs?
On the website, it says "E-mail for pricing."

73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 2/6/2014 5:05 PM, stan levandowski wrote:

stan levandowski

Re: (OT) -- Regarding the QRP Discussion

When I bought mine a few months ago, it was $99 for the antenna and one
matchbox; each additional matchbox was $20. 73, Stan WB2LQF

On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 08:40 PM, Jim Lowman wrote:

> Does anyone know what this antenna costs?
> On the website, it says "E-mail for pricing."
>
> 73 de Jim - AD6CW
>
> On 2/6/2014 5:05 PM, stan levandowski wrote:
>> FYI - if any Listers here happened to work 3DA0US in the last couple
>> of days, you might be interested to learn that he was running a KX3
>> at between 5 and 10 watts depending upon his DC input level. His
>> antenna was a PAR Omni Angle on a 22 foot fiberglass pole. He made
>> 400 contacts in two days of operating and he was only on a few hours
>> each day. In a couple of weeks he'll be operating as 7P8US with the
>> same rig and antenna.
>>
>>
>> The PAR Omni Angle is only a 7 foot aluminum rectangle with a
>> matching network and it only weighs a couple of pounds. Most hams
>> would probably dub the Par Omni Angle a "suboptimal" or "compromise"
>> antenna.
>>
>>
>> A well versed operator, knowledge of propagation, patience,
>> preparation, perseverance and top shelf equipment goes a long way to
>> offset the handicap of a "compromise" antenna.
>>
>>
>> 73, Stan WB2LQF
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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KD8RQE

Re: (OT) -- Regarding the QRP Discussion

In reply to this post by stan levandowski

That would be Ulrich, N2DE, KX3, Begali Adventure, & his baby, the Begali
CW Machine. A combo very hard to beat.

73 Mike KD8RQE

In a message dated 2/6/2014 8:05:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

FYI - if any Listers here happened to work 3DA0US in the last couple of
days, you might be interested to learn that he was running a KX3 at
between 5 and 10 watts depending upon his DC input level. His antenna
was a PAR Omni Angle on a 22 foot fiberglass pole. He made 400 contacts
in two days of operating and he was only on a few hours each day. In a
couple of weeks he'll be operating as 7P8US with the same rig and
antenna.

The PAR Omni Angle is only a 7 foot aluminum rectangle with a matching
network and it only weighs a couple of pounds. Most hams would probably
dub the Par Omni Angle a "suboptimal" or "compromise" antenna.

A well versed operator, knowledge of propagation, patience, preparation,
perseverance and top shelf equipment goes a long way to offset the
handicap of a "compromise" antenna.

73, Stan WB2LQF

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Doug Turnbull

Re: (OT) -- Regarding the QRP Discussion

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Dear OMs,
Of course the other side of the story is that a good many of the
distant stations being worked by the QRP station have large Yagis up high.
Those Yagis are doing the job for both parties.

I found it relatively easy to work the States with an inside AlexLoop
tickled by 10 watts at the tail end of an ARRL DX Contest. The fellows I
was working were running out of responders and they had the antennas to hear
my pip squeak. It was fun though.

So hail to big antennas whenever they can be had and amazement when
QRP with a small antenna inside gets through. Some of us go on QRP just
because QRO can make us jaded but when I want to work on my CW rag chewing
400 Watts to a Yagi smoothes the process.

73 Doug EI2CN
KX1, KX3, K3

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Jack Chomley
Sent: 07 February 2014 01:23
To: stan levandowski
Cc: Elecraft List
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] (OT) -- Regarding the QRP Discussion

I would not say the Omniangle is a compromise antenna if it works :-) The
operator had nothing else to compare it with and was able to make many
contacts with it!
We would all like a big Yagi I guess, but they weigh more than a few pounds.
The thrill really, is doing more......with less!
Incidentally, I am about to find out just how good an Omniangle on 20 metres
is, Dale shipped mine out, earlier this week.

73,

Jack VK4JRC

Club. www.cqara.org.au
Member WIA SARL ARRL
GQRP #14392
QRPARCI #15068
VKQRP. #833

> On 7 Feb 2014, at 11:05 am, stan levandowski <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> FYI - if any Listers here happened to work 3DA0US in the last couple of
days, you might be interested to learn that he was running a KX3 at between
5 and 10 watts depending upon his DC input level. His antenna was a PAR
Omni Angle on a 22 foot fiberglass pole. He made 400 contacts in two days
of operating and he was only on a few hours each day. In a couple of weeks
he'll be operating as 7P8US with the same rig and antenna.
>
>
> The PAR Omni Angle is only a 7 foot aluminum rectangle with a matching
network and it only weighs a couple of pounds. Most hams would probably dub
the Par Omni Angle a "suboptimal" or "compromise" antenna.
>
>
> A well versed operator, knowledge of propagation, patience, preparation,
perseverance and top shelf equipment goes a long way to offset the handicap
of a "compromise" antenna.

>
>
> 73, Stan WB2LQF
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Dave-5

Re: (OT) -- Regarding the QRP Discussion

Not always, some people like working QRP 2 way, especially where both ends
are using "simple" antennas, so to say it is a good many of the contacts
being between QRO with large antennas to QRP with small, would not be
telling the whole story...

Dave (G0DJA)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Turnbull" <[hidden email]>
To: "'Jack Chomley'" <[hidden email]>; "'stan levandowski'"
<[hidden email]>
Cc: "'Elecraft List'" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] (OT) -- Regarding the QRP Discussion

> Dear OMs,
> Of course the other side of the story is that a good many of the
> distant stations being worked by the QRP station have large Yagis up high.
> Those Yagis are doing the job for both parties.

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Tony Castellano

Re: (OT) -- Regarding the QRP Discussion

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One thing I would like to add is the fact that Stan and I both worked 3DA0US
with our KX3's running QRP power.

Tony Castellano W1ZMB
[hidden email]
Hopewell Junction, NY
RV-6
N401TC

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----- Original Message ----- From: "stan levandowski" <[hidden email]>
To: "Elecraft" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 8:05 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] (OT) -- Regarding the QRP Discussion

> FYI - if any Listers here happened to work 3DA0US in the last couple of
> days, you might be interested to learn that he was running a KX3 at
> between 5 and 10 watts depending upon his DC input level. His antenna was
> a PAR Omni Angle on a 22 foot fiberglass pole. He made 400 contacts in two
> days of operating and he was only on a few hours each day. In a couple of
> weeks he'll be operating as 7P8US with the same rig and antenna.
>
> The PAR Omni Angle is only a 7 foot aluminum rectangle with a matching
> network and it only weighs a couple of pounds. Most hams would probably
> dub the Par Omni Angle a "suboptimal" or "compromise" antenna.
>
> A well versed operator, knowledge of propagation, patience, preparation,
> perseverance and top shelf equipment goes a long way to offset the
> handicap of a "compromise" antenna.
>
>
> 73, Stan WB2LQF
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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