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James Bennett

OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend

A buddy of mine recently bought himself a K3 and is ready to unload his IC-7300. He has asked me to put it up for sale for him on eBay. I’ve been selling there for 12 years with a feedback of close to 6000. However, I thought I’d see if anyone here wants it before I post it there. Perfect condition, works great, looks absolutely brand new, in original factory box, with third party programming software. $1,200 / free shipping CONUS only. Contact me off list if you are interested.

Jim Bennett / [hidden email]
Folsom, CA

916-337-4416
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James Bennett

Re: OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend

Seems like the retail outlets have been dropping their prices - we had set hat price based on what this unit had been selling for on eBay. However, “after further review...” how about if we go with $1,070 - free shipping........

Jim Bennett / W6JHB
Folsom, CA

> On Nov 28, 2017, at 9:04 PM, Steve Sergeant <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Jim:
>
> I could almost be tempted if HRO wasn't selling them for $1,150 right
> now, with free shipping.
>
> [ https://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=71-002065 ]
>
>
>
>> On 11/28/17 20:40 PM, James Bennett wrote:
>> A buddy of mine recently bought himself a K3 and is ready to unload his IC-7300. He has asked me to put it up for sale for him on eBay. I’ve been selling there for 12 years with a feedback of close to 6000. However, I thought I’d see if anyone here wants it before I post it there. Perfect condition, works great, looks absolutely brand new, in original factory box, with third party programming software. $1,200 / free shipping CONUS only. Contact me off list if you are interested.
>>
>> Jim Bennett / [hidden email]
>> Folsom, CA
>>
>> 916-337-4416

Bill Clarke

Re: OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend

Gigaparts (maybe others also matching) had them for $999 over the
weekend - shipped. A discount like that makes me wonder what is going on.

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Wes Stewart-2

Re: OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend

Sounds like an End-of-Life special.

On 11/29/2017 5:02 AM, Bill wrote:
> Gigaparts (maybe others also matching) had them for $999 over the weekend -
> shipped. A discount like that makes me wonder what is going on.

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Charlie T, K3ICH

Re: OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend

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I think he'd better knock off another couple hundred if he's serious about selling.

They're under $900 "pre-owned" these days.

73, Charlie k3ICH

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend

Seems like the retail outlets have been dropping their prices - we had set hat price based on what this unit had been selling for on eBay. However, “after further review...” how about if we go with $1,070 - free shipping........

Jim Bennett / W6JHB
Folsom, CA

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Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Re: OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend

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This is one reason that I won't buy a JA brand radio. Seems that all of
the companies have a "new radio of the month" introduction, thus
deflating the value of the brands/models that hams bought in the past
few months. Hams in general a cheap, buy today and loose money on the
deal next week because the same brand/model can now be obtained for less
money.

The Elecraft products have been solid for years. That speaks well of
the company and their values. Although no longer producing ham
products, another US company followed the same practice. I have several
of their radios as well. Besides, I purchase performance radios to keep
and use every day, not what's popular in the marketplace.

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 11/29/2017 6:31 AM, Wes Stewart wrote:

> Sounds like an End-of-Life special.
>
> On 11/29/2017 5:02 AM, Bill wrote:
>> Gigaparts (maybe others also matching) had them for $999 over the
>> weekend - shipped. A discount like that makes me wonder what is going
>> on.
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James Bennett

Re: OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend

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Yes, perhaps in some venues, but looking at very recent eBay “sold” items for this unit, that is not necessarily the case. I’ll put it up on eBay anyway, with my usual 99 cent starting price and see what happens. Always has worked in the past, even with big-dollar auction items like this. No guts, no glory.

Thread closed! :-)

W6JHB

> On Nov 29, 2017, at 4:36 AM:
>
> I think he'd better knock off another couple hundred if he's serious about selling.
>
> They're under $900 "pre-owned" these days.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector <[hidden email]>
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>
> Seems like the retail outlets have been dropping their prices - we had set hat price based on what this unit had been selling for on eBay. However, “after further review...” how about if we go with $1,070 - free shipping........

Thomas Schaefer

KPA1500 Manual?

At the risk of being impertinent and asking a question about Elecraft gear, does anyone know if there were pre-release versions of the KPA1500 book? I am curious about the programming commands for possible inclusion in some software I write. If it helps, I promise to decode the manual using only the gray matter in my head and not scan it or use any other computer assisted reading/comprehension devices.

I also hope we hear a report from anyone that receives a unit so we know they went out and can tailor our expectations on when to start looking for the UPS guy :)

Thanks,

Tom Schaefer NY4I

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Don Wilhelm

Re: KPA1500 Manual?

Tom,

With only minor exceptions, the KPA1500 should respond in the same way
as the KPA500 combined with the KAT500.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/29/2017 11:53 AM, Thomas Schaefer wrote:
> At the risk of being impertinent and asking a question about Elecraft gear, does anyone know if there were pre-release versions of the KPA1500 book? I am curious about the programming commands for possible inclusion in some software I write. If it helps, I promise to decode the manual using only the gray matter in my head and not scan it or use any other computer assisted reading/comprehension devices.
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Thomas Schaefer

Re: KPA1500 Manual?

Bob K2TK pointed me in the right direction. I downloaded it from the FCC.

https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=ihVuEIeRW6zTYKpm1zmQDA%3D%3D&fcc_id=UTR-KPA1500 <https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=ihVuEIeRW6zTYKpm1zmQDA==&fcc_id=UTR-KPA1500>

Thanks,

Tom NY4I

> On Nov 29, 2017, at 12:01 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
> With only minor exceptions, the KPA1500 should respond in the same way as the KPA500 combined with the KAT500.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 11/29/2017 11:53 AM, Thomas Schaefer wrote:
>> At the risk of being impertinent and asking a question about Elecraft gear, does anyone know if there were pre-release versions of the KPA1500 book? I am curious about the programming commands for possible inclusion in some software I write. If it helps, I promise to decode the manual using only the gray matter in my head and not scan it or use any other computer assisted reading/comprehension devices.

Thomas Schaefer

Re: KPA1500 Manual?

In reply to this post by Don Wilhelm

Correction..While that is the manual, it did not have any programming commands. I thought there were some differences since the tuner and amp were combined. I will wait for the programming info.

Thanks,

Tom

w4sc-2

KPA1500 Manual?

In reply to this post by Thomas Schaefer

The manual (electronic or hard copy) will probably NOT be available until AFTER the first unit is delivered to the first LUCKY KPA1500 customer.

de Ben W4SC
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Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT-2

Re: OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend

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Most Japanese companies design a product (radio, computer, whatever) and
do one production run.

Then they reset the production line and make something else.

If the product was wildly popular, they might reset the line and do a
second run, but most likely there will be at least some redesign, or it
could be a new model entirely.

I would imagine that Elecraft keeps a steady production rate depending
in inventory and demand.

Totally different business model.

73 -- Lynn

On 11/29/2017 6:38 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
> This is one reason that I won't buy a JA brand radio. Seems that all of
> the companies have a "new radio of the month" introduction, thus
> deflating the value of the brands/models that hams bought in the past
> few months.
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Josh Fiden

Re: OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend

Considering most products are available for more than a few months, they must all have HUGE warehouses...

73
Josh W6XU

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> On Nov 29, 2017, at 10:57 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Most Japanese companies design a product (radio, computer, whatever) and do one production run.
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Mark Goldberg

Re: OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend

I think Ham radios from everyone follow more of the Elecraft business
model. The IC718 was introduced in 2000 or earlier and it is still sold.

I think the 7300 is wildly successful (not trying to start a flamewar, but
it is the best selling rig at many dealers) and they likely have economies
of scale, parts get cheaper as you buy more, and they push the price down
after the early adopters have bought, to better compete and drive out the
competition. The Elecraft radios do serve somewhat of a different market,
but you can't ignore that Direct Conversion SDR radios are up and coming.

73,

Mark
W7MLG

On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Josh <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Considering most products are available for more than a few months, they
> must all have HUGE warehouses...
>
> 73
> Josh W6XU
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> Sent from my mobile device
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> > On Nov 29, 2017, at 10:57 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> > Most Japanese companies design a product (radio, computer, whatever) and
> do one production run.
> >
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Bill Frantz

Re: OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend

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Besides being excellent radios, one of the other real values in
Elecraft products is that Elecraft leans over backwards to
provide upgrade paths to owners of earlier versions. The K3 to
K3S upgrade path is a good example as is the history of the K2.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 11/29/17 at 6:38 AM, [hidden email] (Bob McGraw K4TAX) wrote:

>The Elecraft products have been solid for years. That speaks
>well of the company and their values. Although no longer
>producing ham products, another US company followed the same
>practice. I have several of their radios as well. Besides,
>I purchase performance radios to keep and use every day, not
>what's popular in the marketplace.

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Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Re: OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend

That fact, among others, prompted me to buy the K3S that is now on my desk.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 11/29/2017 4:32 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:

> Besides being excellent radios, one of the other real values in
> Elecraft products is that Elecraft leans over backwards to provide
> upgrade paths to owners of earlier versions. The K3 to K3S upgrade
> path is a good example as is the history of the K2.
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV
>
> On 11/29/17 at 6:38 AM, [hidden email] (Bob McGraw K4TAX) wrote:
>
>> The Elecraft products have been solid for years. That speaks well of
>> the company and their values. Although no longer producing ham
>> products, another US company followed the same practice. I have
>> several of their radios as well. Besides, I purchase performance
>> radios to keep and use every day, not what's popular in the marketplace.
>
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Gary Smith-2

Re: OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend

Yes. I built my K3 kit in 09 and sold it
to a friend who wanted another K3 to match
his other two K3's. I wanted a K3s so
applied that sale to buying the K3s, moved
over that which was worth doing (upgraded
Sub RX/filters and a few other things and
upgraded the rest so it's now a current
K3s.

Add to that that I then bought a very
early K3 from a nearby ham for my backup
rig and I am a solid believer in Elecraft
and their upgrade policy.

Considering how the other radios on the
market are not upgradable, I can not
imagine any reason to ever buy one of
them. As long as there is Elecraft, I will
buy the next radio that has something new
to offer.

As someone sent to me not long ago... Why
not buy it now, while you can, you're
going to be a SK for a very long time...
Ya know, at my age, that makes all the
sense in the world to me...

73,

Gary
KA1J

> That fact, among others, prompted me to buy the K3S that is now on
> my desk.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> On 11/29/2017 4:32 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
> > Besides being excellent radios, one of the other real values in
> > Elecraft products is that Elecraft leans over backwards to provide
> > upgrade paths to owners of earlier versions. The K3 to K3S upgrade
> > path is a good example as is the history of the K2.
> >
> > 73 Bill AE6JV
> >
> > On 11/29/17 at 6:38 AM, [hidden email] (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
> > wrote:
> >
> >> The Elecraft products have been solid for years. That speaks well
> >> of the company and their values. Although no longer producing ham
> >> products, another US company followed the same practice. I have
> >> several of their radios as well. Besides, I purchase performance
> >> radios to keep and use every day, not what's popular in the
> >> marketplace.
> >
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Jim Brown-10

Re: OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend

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On 11/29/2017 2:32 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
> Besides being excellent radios, one of the other real values in
> Elecraft products is that Elecraft leans over backwards to provide
> upgrade paths to owners of earlier versions. The K3 to K3S upgrade
> path is a good example as is the history of the K2.

Yep. I bought the two K3s that remain on my operating desk today in
2008. Upgrading to the new synth boards and new transverter board with
the built-in preamp for 12-10-6M, bringing it up to about 90% of a K3S
for a small fraction of the cost of a new rig. With any other mfr, I'd
have to sell the rig for half-price or less and buy a new one.

The modularity that allows us to buy only the features we need, adds
features provided by new hardware designs, and provides that inexpensive
upgrade path is a big plus. So are the ongoing upgrades to firmware,
always free!

73, Jim K9YC

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Grant Youngman-2

Re: OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend

I suspect you’re underestimating the differences between the K3S and a fully up to date K3. Either one is still the only rig I’d care to own :-)

>
> Yep. I bought the two K3s that remain on my operating desk today in 2008. Upgrading to the new synth boards and new transverter board with the built-in preamp for 12-10-6M, bringing it up to about 90% of a K3S for a small fraction of the cost of a new rig. With any other mfr, I'd have to sell the rig for half-price or less and buy a new one.
>
>

Grant NQ5T
K3 #2091, KX3 #8342

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