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Ken G Kopp

OT: Shipping

In decades we've -never- had a positive interaction with FedEx ... IMO, an
awful company!

Rose (Elecraft Cases & Covers) ships 10 - 20 orders per month via USPS
Priority Mail, and have never had a single issue. Never more than 3 days
to anywhere in the US.

73!

K0PP

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018, 13:32 Carl Jón Denbow <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Never had a problem like that at UPS, and I’ve shipped many high value
> items with them. I did have a problem like that, but not as severe, at
> FedEx once. They opened the box because I said the value was about
> $4000.00. They had to insure the packing was sufficient. I’ve avoided
> them for high-value items ever since. 73 de Carl
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ===========================
> Carl Jón Denbow, N8VZ
> 17 Coventry Lane
> Athens, Ohio 45701-3718
>
> [hidden email]
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> EM89wh
>
> IRLP 4533 Echolink 116070
>
> PSK and JT65 Forever!
> ===========================
>
> > On Sep 25, 2018, at 3:04 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> > I just took mine to the authorized Fed-X shipping store and let them
> deal with it. No hassles. Less expensive than UPS and faster service.
> >
> > Bob, K4TAX
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Sep 25, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Grant Youngman <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> The thread started by the gentleman who thought his KX2 might be dead
> and needed to go to Elecraft motivated me to make this comment about
> shipping.
> >>
> >> For several good reasons, I just sent my K3 to Elecraft for service for
> the first time ever. Insured, double boxed, expensive Uline 3” plank foam
> cushion support for the inner carton, etc. Because I insured it for a
> high value, I was required by UPS to take the carton to the local UPS
> Customer Service Center, not the UPS store, etc. to obtain a signature.
> Don’t know if I’d scheduled a pickup that it would have been the same fire
> drill, but that wasn’t an option for me because of UPS schedules around
> here.
> >>
> >> Got to the UPS Center at the airport and was told that I had to UNPACK
> ALL of the cartons so they could see what was inside and determine that it
> wasn’t explosives (apparently there was an incident at FedEx back in
> February). UPS did a sloppy job of retaping everything. Nothing worse
> than having to cut open carefully packed and sealed containers to prove
> you’re not just another uni-bomber. I bit my lips and was (mostly)
> friendly about it. Worse than TSA … because they don’t have the chemical
> detection wipes and X-ray machines that TSA has. So it’s a bigger than
> average hassle.
> >>
> >> Word to the wise — leave your cartons untaped, take your tape gun with
> you, and close/tape the containers yourself. (Maybe I’m the only person
> that didn’t know this was a current UPS policy?)
> >>
> >> Grant NQ5T
> >> K3 #2091 KX3 #8342
> >>
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Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Re: OT: Shipping

I agree for small shipments. However USPS doesn't pack. The point being, if I use the Fed-X packing service and it gets damaged or lost it is 100% their issue. In other words they don't come back to me and say "poorly packed".

I lost a radio via UPS due to damage. When I recovered it there was a corner crushed and some type of equipment track on the box. Their response was "improper packaging". ???? Guess I should have used a steel case.

Seems that diff folks have different results.

Bob, K4TAX

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2018, at 2:50 PM, Ken G Kopp <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> In decades we've -never- had a positive interaction with FedEx ... IMO, an
> awful company!
>
> Rose (Elecraft Cases & Covers) ships 10 - 20 orders per month via USPS
> Priority Mail, and have never had a single issue. Never more than 3 days
> to anywhere in the US.
>
> 73!
>
> K0PP
>
>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2018, 13:32 Carl Jón Denbow <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Never had a problem like that at UPS, and I’ve shipped many high value
>> items with them. I did have a problem like that, but not as severe, at
>> FedEx once. They opened the box because I said the value was about
>> $4000.00. They had to insure the packing was sufficient. I’ve avoided
>> them for high-value items ever since. 73 de Carl
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ===========================
>> Carl Jón Denbow, N8VZ
>> 17 Coventry Lane
>> Athens, Ohio 45701-3718
>>
>> [hidden email]
>> www.n8vz.com
>> EM89wh
>>
>> IRLP 4533 Echolink 116070
>>
>> PSK and JT65 Forever!
>> ===========================
>>
>>> On Sep 25, 2018, at 3:04 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I just took mine to the authorized Fed-X shipping store and let them
>> deal with it. No hassles. Less expensive than UPS and faster service.
>>>
>>> Bob, K4TAX
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Sep 25, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Grant Youngman <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The thread started by the gentleman who thought his KX2 might be dead
>> and needed to go to Elecraft motivated me to make this comment about
>> shipping.
>>>>
>>>> For several good reasons, I just sent my K3 to Elecraft for service for
>> the first time ever. Insured, double boxed, expensive Uline 3” plank foam
>> cushion support for the inner carton, etc. Because I insured it for a
>> high value, I was required by UPS to take the carton to the local UPS
>> Customer Service Center, not the UPS store, etc. to obtain a signature.
>> Don’t know if I’d scheduled a pickup that it would have been the same fire
>> drill, but that wasn’t an option for me because of UPS schedules around
>> here.
>>>>
>>>> Got to the UPS Center at the airport and was told that I had to UNPACK
>> ALL of the cartons so they could see what was inside and determine that it
>> wasn’t explosives (apparently there was an incident at FedEx back in
>> February). UPS did a sloppy job of retaping everything. Nothing worse
>> than having to cut open carefully packed and sealed containers to prove
>> you’re not just another uni-bomber. I bit my lips and was (mostly)
>> friendly about it. Worse than TSA … because they don’t have the chemical
>> detection wipes and X-ray machines that TSA has. So it’s a bigger than
>> average hassle.
>>>>
>>>> Word to the wise — leave your cartons untaped, take your tape gun with
>> you, and close/tape the containers yourself. (Maybe I’m the only person
>> that didn’t know this was a current UPS policy?)
>>>>
>>>> Grant NQ5T
>>>> K3 #2091 KX3 #8342
>>>>
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
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>>>
>>>
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Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ

Re: OT: Shipping

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On 9/25/2018 1:35 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:

> I agree for small shipments. However USPS doesn't pack. The point being, if I use the Fed-X packing service and it gets damaged or lost it is 100% their issue. In other words they don't come back to me and say "poorly packed".
>
> I lost a radio via UPS due to damage. When I recovered it there was a corner crushed and some type of equipment track on the box. Their response was "improper packaging". ???? Guess I should have used a steel case.
>
> Seems that diff folks have different results.
>
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 25, 2018, at 2:50 PM, Ken G Kopp <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> In decades we've -never- had a positive interaction with FedEx ... IMO, an
>> awful company!
>>
>> Rose (Elecraft Cases & Covers) ships 10 - 20 orders per month via USPS
>> Priority Mail, and have never had a single issue. Never more than 3 days
>> to anywhere in the US.
>>
>> 73!
>>
>> K0PP
>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2018, 13:32 Carl Jón Denbow <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Never had a problem like that at UPS, and I’ve shipped many high value
>>> items with them. I did have a problem like that, but not as severe, at
>>> FedEx once. They opened the box because I said the value was about
>>> $4000.00. They had to insure the packing was sufficient. I’ve avoided
>>> them for high-value items ever since. 73 de Carl
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> ===========================
>>> Carl Jón Denbow, N8VZ
>>> 17 Coventry Lane
>>> Athens, Ohio 45701-3718
>>>
>>> [hidden email]
>>> www.n8vz.com
>>> EM89wh
>>>
>>> IRLP 4533 Echolink 116070
>>>
>>> PSK and JT65 Forever!
>>> ===========================
>>>
>>>> On Sep 25, 2018, at 3:04 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I just took mine to the authorized Fed-X shipping store and let them
>>> deal with it. No hassles. Less expensive than UPS and faster service.
>>>> Bob, K4TAX
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 25, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Grant Youngman <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> The thread started by the gentleman who thought his KX2 might be dead
>>> and needed to go to Elecraft motivated me to make this comment about
>>> shipping.
>>>>> For several good reasons, I just sent my K3 to Elecraft for service for
>>> the first time ever. Insured, double boxed, expensive Uline 3” plank foam
>>> cushion support for the inner carton, etc. Because I insured it for a
>>> high value, I was required by UPS to take the carton to the local UPS
>>> Customer Service Center, not the UPS store, etc. to obtain a signature.
>>> Don’t know if I’d scheduled a pickup that it would have been the same fire
>>> drill, but that wasn’t an option for me because of UPS schedules around
>>> here.
>>>>> Got to the UPS Center at the airport and was told that I had to UNPACK
>>> ALL of the cartons so they could see what was inside and determine that it
>>> wasn’t explosives (apparently there was an incident at FedEx back in
>>> February). UPS did a sloppy job of retaping everything. Nothing worse
>>> than having to cut open carefully packed and sealed containers to prove
>>> you’re not just another uni-bomber. I bit my lips and was (mostly)
>>> friendly about it. Worse than TSA … because they don’t have the chemical
>>> detection wipes and X-ray machines that TSA has. So it’s a bigger than
>>> average hassle.
>>>>> Word to the wise — leave your cartons untaped, take your tape gun with
>>> you, and close/tape the containers yourself. (Maybe I’m the only person
>>> that didn’t know this was a current UPS policy?)
>>>>> Grant NQ5T
>>>>> K3 #2091 KX3 #8342
>>>>>
>>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>>> Elecraft mailing list
>>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
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>>>>> Message delivered to [hidden email]
>>>>
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